Old 02-18-2007, 10:19 PM   #41
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How can life be predetermined if the information isnt stored anywhere? Time is just a concept not a big long data spread sheet.
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Old 02-19-2007, 10:42 PM   #42
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How can life be predetermined if the information isnt stored anywhere? Time is just a concept not a big long data spread sheet.
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Old 02-19-2007, 11:09 PM   #43
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If you believe in god then you automatically believe that life is predetermined.This is because if god is all knowing from the beginning to the end like the bible says he is then he knows every single event that is going to occur in all of our lives before we were even created which contradicts the idea of free agency.
The claim that foreknowledge implies predestination might seem compelling, but it doesn't quite logically follow. Why? Because either event A will happen or it won't, and merely knowing what will happen doesn't cause anything. Think of it this way. Suppose I use a time machine to travel from the present to the year 1995. I know that the American people will elect George W. Bush in the year 2000. Yet this foreknowledge does not imply predestination. I don’t take away the people’s free will simply by knowing what will happen. But what if people choose to vote for Al Gore instead? In that case, I would correspondingly have always known that when I traveled from the present to the year 1995. In either case, foreknowledge does not imply predestination.
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