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Old 12-30-2006, 12:44 PM   #21
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true, we are ruinning the world, but the apocalypse probably won't happen for a very long time
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Old 12-30-2006, 01:10 PM   #22
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I'm atheist. First off.
The 'Apocalypse' has nothing to do with the world ending. I guess I don't know more then anyone else here about global warming, but like I read before, the world goes through hot and cold stages. You or your children or your children's children aren't going to die from the world 'ending'. The only thing we may have to face is finding alternate fuel. And in finding alternate fuel, it will slow global warming, no?
Leaving god out of it, we're ruining the earth with polution.
But, I guess the way I look at it is that I won't die. I'll live a happy normal life. I suppose fuel might change in my life time...but that's about it.

Yes we need change, but the world isn't going to end in 30 years or anything. :]
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Old 12-30-2006, 02:52 PM   #23
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The earth does go through heating and cooling periods, but not nearly as fast as it's going through one now. I don't think anyone is trying to deny that the earth does it naturally, but what people are saying is that we are speeding up the process...exponentially.

A lot of the worlds greenhouse gas, some ~30% of it comes from coal power in the united states alone. I am a huge supporter of nuclear power and would love to see us do away with those poisonous pieces of crap once and for all and go forward with a nuclear age.

However, nuclear power is expensive, and there's still a big gang of ignorant fools in opposition of nuclear power so things arn't really going to change. It's kind of obvious. Politically the change from coal to nuclear makes absolutely no sense, though we won't have to worry about our politics at all if we waste the planet.


Regardless of what kind of problems greenhouse gas does to the temperature/currents of the earth, the pollution we put into the atmosphere is also a problem. We poisoning the planet, and we're inevitably going to do ourselves in if we don't change our ways over the next few crutial centuries of development.
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Old 12-30-2006, 03:09 PM   #24
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Fun fact: The Metalocalypse has begun.
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Old 12-30-2006, 03:18 PM   #25
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personally i think that God wouldn't end the earth until the time is right and the world is almost completely full of sin...
also mankind doesn't have the answers to everything and we depend too much on blind faith in the elements sometimes
at least religion has back-up... but media always seems to try and destroy it
yes tsunami's and earthquakes are signs of the end of the earth and this global warming sucks ass but again they've been happening for thousands of years
i think it is more meant to a certain extremity of power in these disasters


honestly it's all very confusing but also the devil is more the cause for destroying things as he will try to battle God ergo the flames and people going to hell (basically his soldiers) but being a religious man as i am i know for SURE that God will easily win the battle as there is NO ONE as powerful as him
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Old 12-30-2006, 03:40 PM   #26
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I bear same sentiments as Stephen Hawkings. Though currently not very realistic, but it may not be in the future.

Also, Humans need to further evolve and get rid of loose ends of the breeding waste. Otherwise, we indeed might wipe ourselves out.
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Old 12-30-2006, 08:19 PM   #27
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World ends eventually anyway. Everything ends eventually. Including everything ever to exist on any galaxy in space. Why?

In every reaction, there is slight energy loss. This includes the sun, and trees, and anything you could ever think of. What happens when all the energy is gone?

This is one of Newtons observations i think.

In either case, the only End of the World theory i can think of that might happen soon is global warming, which is still controversial, but its better to be safe than sorry. Any other apocalyptic theory normally doesn't convince me.
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Old 12-31-2006, 07:12 AM   #28
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Call me pesimistic but i really dont give a damn.
I dont think we are going to die of global warming though. At least not soon.
I heard the earth raises 1 global degree every 10 years.
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Old 12-31-2006, 07:59 AM   #29
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I would call that optimistic, or just agnostic, or something... I dont know, but its not pessimistic
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Old 12-31-2006, 02:45 PM   #30
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World ends eventually anyway. Everything ends eventually. Including everything ever to exist on any galaxy in space. Why?

In every reaction, there is slight energy loss. This includes the sun, and trees, and anything you could ever think of. What happens when all the energy is gone?

This is one of Newtons observations i think.

In either case, the only End of the World theory i can think of that might happen soon is global warming, which is still controversial, but its better to be safe than sorry. Any other apocalyptic theory normally doesn't convince me.
Energy cannot be created or destroyed. The energy in the universe is the same as it was from the very beginning and will never change. The energy here isn't 'gone' per say, just converted into unusable energy

However, if WMAP is right (there is a lot of evidence to back it up) then there will be a 'big rip' in about 50 billion years where all of the matter in the universe will no longer be able to exist and everything will be converted to pure energy.

So I guess there's your inevitable apocalypse. Unless we figure out a way to go to other universes; I can't be one to speak of what is possible and what is not or what things will be like in 50 billion years XD
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Aztecs predicted that it would end at the year 2012. Coincidentally, thats the year that I graduate school.
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No, the Garden of Eden is not believed to be in Iraq. Go here:http://www.ldolphin.org/eden/
Well no one really knows were it was most people of the church belive this becasue it was also the place were Babylon was belived to be.
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Old 01-1-2007, 04:31 PM   #33
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Hoo-ra, the end is just what we need.

Global warming is nothing, it's propoganda...like Blitzkrieg. Now, if all the ice caps didn't melt a few hundred years agp when the earth was many times hotter than it is today, then why are they melting now?


I feel the earth is going to end due to some idiot phsyco who gets in charge and causes a nuclear war. I don't care if people say "Oh thats what every one thinks!". Thats what I think is going to happen.
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Old 01-1-2007, 07:35 PM   #34
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Tomgirl, apparently you and many others in this environmentalist circle jerk are hopelessly uninformed, so let me help you out.

The earth is warming. There is no doubt about that. Gradually, our oceans are heating, our ice is melting. This is confirmed fact.

Unfortunately for you and Greenpeace, that's about as much as we're able to prove. It's true that we're destroying our Earth. We're cutting down trees, killing animals and increasing emissions. However, we flatter ourselves to believe that roughly 200 years of human industrialization is capable of affecting our global ecology, and in such a severe and immediate manner. The Earth does go through periodic climate changes, with the last ice age taking place about 20,000 years ago. We've enjoyed the last 20,000 years as a period of relatively calm and stable climate; unfortunately for us, the time is ripe for another period of warming.

The question isn't whether or not the Earth is warming. It's whether or not we're causing it, and if not, what we are able to do about it. The answer, unfortunately, is beyond our reach at this time. Go ahead and ban every industrial facility off the face of the earth; it won't make a damn difference. The Earth will still continue to warm. Are we accelerating that process? Perhaps. But until you environmentalists learn to stop running around screaming at the top of your lungs about the end of the world and provide consistant, credible scientific evidence, the rest of us aren't likely to listen to you- hell, the church has been predicting the end of the world for the last 2000 years, and look how far that got them.
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Tomgirl, apparently you and many others in this environmentalist circle jerk are hopelessly uninformed, so let me help you out.

The earth is warming. There is no doubt about that. Gradually, our oceans are heating, our ice is melting. This is confirmed fact.

Unfortunately for you and Greenpeace, that's about as much as we're able to prove. It's true that we're destroying our Earth. We're cutting down trees, killing animals and increasing emissions. However, we flatter ourselves to believe that roughly 200 years of human industrialization is capable of affecting our global ecology, and in such a severe and immediate manner. The Earth does go through periodic climate changes, with the last ice age taking place about 20,000 years ago. We've enjoyed the last 20,000 years as a period of relatively calm and stable climate; unfortunately for us, the time is ripe for another period of warming.

The question isn't whether or not the Earth is warming. It's whether or not we're causing it, and if not, what we are able to do about it. The answer, unfortunately, is beyond our reach at this time. Go ahead and ban every industrial facility off the face of the earth; it won't make a damn difference. The Earth will still continue to warm. Are we accelerating that process? Perhaps. But until you environmentalists learn to stop running around screaming at the top of your lungs about the end of the world and provide consistant, credible scientific evidence, the rest of us aren't likely to listen to you- hell, the church has been predicting the end of the world for the last 2000 years, and look how far that got them.

We are speeding it up the natural process, this isn't hard to prove since it quite obvious, question is by how much. Based on comparisons from prior spikes, this one is abnormal because of how fast it is. So one would assume that we are nudging it along. Of course we can't look too far back with a good accuracy, so again we are at stand off of what ifs or what nots.

As for stopping all emissions this instant, it wouldn't matter because the process already gained momentum, sort of like an avalanche.

For every action, there is reaction.

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Old 01-1-2007, 09:21 PM   #36
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I watch the National Geographic channel all the time. They had a show on yesterday about Revelation and Armegeddon.

It has been predicted that Revelation will happen on Dec. 21 of 2012 I think. But I highly doubt it because it has been predicted many times before and those dates have come and gone with no appearance by Christ. Christ does not want us to predict his time of return so I'm guessing he's going to make a more dramatic surprise entrance if he does at all. I find the idea of Revelation kind of scary. I mean, horsemen are coming to unleash death, earthquakes, disease, etc. I think I heard something about a seven headed monster as well. As if the antichrist himself wasn't bad enough. I've also heard theories about mass persecutions of Jews and that the final battle between the armies of Christ and the antichrist will take place in this valley where several battles have been fought before by people such as Napoleon. I can't think of the name of the valley, though. I think I heard about the dead being resurrected, too. We're all going to be supposedly judged on that day and as long as you're a follower of Jesus it's all good. But the important thing is that good will ultimately triumph and the antichrist will be defeated...If any of this ever happens at all. But don't take my word on all of that because I'm no expert on it and I may be wrong on some parts.

As far as the end of the world goes, it's pretty much inevitable that the Earth will be destroyed in my opinion. The sun is halfway through its life and it will die in 500 billion years. As the sun goes it will swell and consume several planets including our own so you might as well be cremated when you die.
It is also true that we are overdue for an ice age and that the ice is melting due to global warming. I've heard our futures mainly rest in the hands of China and India over that matter.
I think meteors pose a big threat to our planet as well. There is a huge one headed in our direction that is expected to be here somewhere between 2020 and 2030. Most likely it will miss us as it's only a 1 in 60ish chance. But hey, it happened to the dinosaurs.
And what about oil? It is going to run out eventually and so far we have no alternatives that I'm aware of.
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I watch the National Geographic channel all the time. They had a show on yesterday about Revelation and Armegeddon.

It has been predicted that Revelation will happen on Dec. 21 of 2012 I think. But I highly doubt it because it has been predicted many times before and those dates have come and gone with no appearance by Christ.
Yeah I have watched that show alot of times, and we really dont know when we are going down. They only think 12/12/2012 because the Mayan's calander only went up to that time. Alot of people thought y2k was the end but here we are still on this place called Earth.
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Tomgirl, apparently you and many others in this environmentalist circle jerk are hopelessly uninformed, so let me help you out.

The earth is warming. There is no doubt about that. Gradually, our oceans are heating, our ice is melting. This is confirmed fact.

Unfortunately for you and Greenpeace, that's about as much as we're able to prove. It's true that we're destroying our Earth. We're cutting down trees, killing animals and increasing emissions. However, we flatter ourselves to believe that roughly 200 years of human industrialization is capable of affecting our global ecology, and in such a severe and immediate manner. The Earth does go through periodic climate changes, with the last ice age taking place about 20,000 years ago. We've enjoyed the last 20,000 years as a period of relatively calm and stable climate; unfortunately for us, the time is ripe for another period of warming.

The question isn't whether or not the Earth is warming. It's whether or not we're causing it, and if not, what we are able to do about it. The answer, unfortunately, is beyond our reach at this time. Go ahead and ban every industrial facility off the face of the earth; it won't make a damn difference. The Earth will still continue to warm. Are we accelerating that process? Perhaps. But until you environmentalists learn to stop running around screaming at the top of your lungs about the end of the world and provide consistant, credible scientific evidence, the rest of us aren't likely to listen to you- hell, the church has been predicting the end of the world for the last 2000 years, and look how far that got them.

I'm no environmentalist, but the smog conditions found in some areas is proof there is something wrong. And last time I checked, the o-zone layer does not create a natural hole upon itself. Maybe it does. Either way I live in the area where the hole is. It causes some incredibly hot summers.

But overall I remain on the fence. We probably aren't creating global warming, but we are doing something wrong. I said this before in another post, There is so much carcinogens in Sydney, Austrailia, that it's equivalent to smoking ten cigarettes a day.

Either way, to be completely for global warming theory, or against is ridiculous since no one knows the true answer. It's just nice to be safe and develop more environmentally friendly technologies, or modify current technology to be more efficient. Search on Google for the SmILE. Greenpeace (I'm not too fond of them) took an existing car and halved the fuel consumption while keeping the performance the same. However I still find it unfeasible considering the dramatic costs to probably make that car in mass production. But it's just interesting how we have the technology.
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But overall I remain on the fence. We probably aren't creating global warming, but we are doing something wrong. I said this before in another post, There is so much carcinogens in Sydney, Austrailia, that it's equivalent to smoking ten cigarettes a day.
I guarantee you that whoever told you that is a complete and raving lunatic, as are you for believing that crap. 10 cigarettes a day... honestly, that just sounds stupid. Say it out loud without laughing. Seriously. You should be ashamed of yourself for getting sucked into a obviously false buzzstatement like that.

btw, for your "end-of-the-worlders" out there, http://www.exitmundi.nl/exitmundi.htm
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Ok let me just say one thing we are dong going to die by water
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