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Originally Posted by Xiz
explain to me why it's too strong? Should I be looking more into yoshl? I'd argue out of the playerlist today he is one of the most vocally towny players proving what feels like natural responses, or at least trying to prod players.
Or is it because you just full on disagree with my mindset of how I'm aproaching wolves this game, because this feels rather opportunistic of you
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alright, I wasn't expecting an exposé on this from you.
wrt mindset, I don't think you and I have really been on the same page, but to say that I "full on disagree with your mindset" would definitely be going too far.
Maybe part of this is the fact that you wolfed with Yoshl in Sacred Stones (where he was self-admittedly rusty) rather than were forced to play town against him, but I believe in my heart that Yoshl would answer my question of "Is what you said to me firmly within your scum range?" with the answer of "yes, it is." Now, he might not do this, because fuck sunfan, but I do believe that he has done nothing that should be clearing. Yoshl doesn't know how to
not be a "vocally towny player [prodding people's responses.]"
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Originally Posted by Xiz
In all seriousness, I've done my best trying to explain what my train of thought has been this game so far.
It might not be how yall are currently approaching finding wolves but I have never in TWG made a more honest post about my logic and just posting it right off the bat. In the past I've said "lol youll find out later" which gets me killed, or I've been more aggressive which has gotten me killed, and I just really, really don't want to be mislynched again because of this. I feel like at least in the past 10 games the only time when people trust me is when I'm so uncomfortably town that I snipe all 3 wolves instantly (see the jojo meme game with raeko).
I'm really trying to adjust my meta to help expalin myself more due to previously getting off'd as a blue one too many times. (no, this isnt a blue soft)
Also, thank you haku, I look forward to looking at you d2 or d3 lol
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I can sympathize with the mislynch bit, at least.
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Originally Posted by Xiz
So sunfan, even if you disagree about my opinion on yoshl, i'm still holding my ground.
No, it's not too strong for looking at just d1. I am clearing yoshl off the table. His tone between you and him and his response to being not mindmeldy with you, then explaining his approach is something a wolf just doesn't do.
If he is a wolf here, great. whatever. There are pleanty of days where he can be looked at no I believe it's a damn good read.
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Go for it, hold your ground, buy 15 AR-15s and unload all of them into the air.
I'm not calling Yoshl scummy. My read on Yoshl is that he is on the signups list, and has a d0 pass from me. My point is that Yoshl can
absolutely be mafia here. If your read is just a d0 pass, then we're closer than I thought we were on this read, but yours seems to have a very weak reason for justification, and you seem to be insisting that it is very strong.
The actual moment itself that you're talking about, yeah, it doesn't feel scummy to me, but that's about where that read ends for me. Even if Yoshl were scummy today, its not really the person I want to but heads with today (in fact, its the last person I would've tried to try to push a kill on [regardless of my alignment] today pre-signups, with Freezin being a close second and Haku being a virtual inevitability).
If you insist on the read, fine, I think its not a damn good read, and can easily be wrong. You haven't found Yoshl town for the right reasons, but yes, Yoshl has plenty