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Originally Posted by stavie33
Here is a lot of my issues with 'rating' difficulties. There is no set standard for what makes an 8, and we just say 'this songs patterns are what we dub 8's so it's an 8', it's about how it compares to files that are in a certain difficulty range. We don't determine difficulty groups first, make a set of rules on what should be in that difficulty, have an empty list, and then fill it with songs that meet those parameters. We order all the songs in increasing difficulty order, then we group songs that are very similar in difficulty and where there are noticeable gaps/jumps in difficulty, we divide the range. So what I would like to hear about this file is not why it's patterns are worthy of 8's but how it's patterns compare to other 8's and 7's. As I've said I still find Improv et Chien far hard to AAA and PA, and Honolulu is arguably harder to FC as well as PA/AAA. Comparing it to the easiest 34, Resurrection in Progress, TFF is easier to pass and to FC, just harder to PA. Well so is Honolulu. I'm not opposed to moving it up, I can go 32, but I really don't think it's 34, or haven't been thoroughly convinced. It's jump gluts with 16ths are icky, but short, few, and the only thing making this song harder than something like World of Dreams. For new players that are proned to mashing they are still mashable, readability wise they are easier to read than Honolulu's 24th or Improvs color crap.
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First off:
Honolulu:
AAAs: 799
FCs: 3,063
Players/Played: 33,450/134,155
The Final Fantasy:
AAAs: 420
FCs: 1,649
Players/Played: 40,039/129,856
Improvisation et Chien
AAAs: 372
FCs: 2,773
Players/Played: 19,698/91,527
First off, the amount of PLAYERS on The Final Fantasy is considerably higher (7,000+), and yet, look at statistics in comparison to some of the tougher songs in the difficulty range. Improvisation et Chien has a lower AAA count, yet it's still nowhere near the FC count. Improvisation et Chien is very freeform, but the density is absolutely pathetic.
Honolulu is a bit more constant, but there are very few jumps dispersed throughout the chart, and the patterns are very smooth because of this. In addition to this, the song is more straightforward because the initial (and constantly holding) structure is in 12th notes, so all that needs to be done for the short little bursts is doubling your speed for a split second.
Meanwhile, here's The Final Fantasy, which holds constant at a higher NPS than all of the songs previously mentioned.
You might find Improvisation et Chien harder to PA, but your bias in patterns/difficulty plays no objective factor in difficulty rating - the only thing that factors difficulty in patterns is density (i.e. streams are easier than jumpstream which are easier than handstream/etc). As mentioned before, all of Honolulu's NPS increases are in short 3-note 24th bursts at most.
As far as particular patterns, I mean... there's absolutely no question that The Final Fantasy blows the other songs out of the water. It might be easier to -pass-, but passing isn't a legitimate metric of measuring difficulty because of the boo judgment not breaking combo. The most accurate measurement of difficulty is a full combo on your song, with a respectable boocount (because again: anyone can mash).
Look at all of these patterns. Also, keep in mind -
this song is 156 BPM. All of the images are clickable if the text shows up too small.
...I can't explain it anymore explicitly than this. This song needs to be re-rated up quite a few points. I was being modest at 34, to be perfectly honest.