[Squeek]

I don't understand why you're down my neck about this. If you did it before Ulduar, then you did it before it was made more difficult to do. We didn't try to do it before Ulduar, nor did we have the ability to stack casters/melee like you all did.

The first mentions of an OS103D zerg were around March of '09. 3.1 came out... April of '09! When 3.1 came out, the only people who were getting the zerg done were people who were doing 25 uld hard modes. You have to remember that all of the tanks you would normally use for the zerg were nerfed. Heavily. Bears lost a ton of armor and health. DKs lost a ton of everything. Voidwalkers couldn't do it anymore either. Paladins and Warriors always had a hard time doing it. Not to mention that DPS and mana regen were both nerfed heavily.

So please, lay off the comments about how we're just now getting it done. It's not like we're doing it at level 100. We tried to do it after we finished clearing Ulduar, but the DPS was too low back then (4000 isn't enough). Since we don't build raids based on buffs designed to maximize DPS, this was as good as we could do.

@Devonin: This is true for our guild runs. We just don't have melee DPSers in our guild most of the time, so we end up doing almost every dungeon with 5-6 ranged. We've had both achievements done easily for the same reasons: she went down so fast that she didn't breathe.