FG: Is up first because the two people in the main game I have DM'd with, both mentioned her when I asked who is somebody that they think should be focused on more. Haha. She is on gold stinger at :19 for focusing inactives, ironically taking a similar stance to T-Force. I feel like "uh oh rip haku" "C H A O S" as day end reactions is likely not W/W with Haku. She would fit better with Ben, who she is not really taking an active stance on on day 0, and then does not place in her reads list day 1. I will say that for D1, I am agreeing with her approach, I think the main game has been derailed too much by mechanics and nihilism.
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plop: Stayed on Ben the whole time; explained why he did not like other wagons during the day end. Fairly neutral to me, only question for me is what are his thoughts on Haku and the votes on Haku are.
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raeko:
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Originally Posted by mellon_collie
ben
I'm too late and full of seafood to read or re-evaluate at this point. This is the last thing I remember feeling soooo....
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This does logically follow, but for you to be anything but null, I am going to need you to widen your net of who you are interacting with and talking about.
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Kappa: Wacky with his unvotes. On Subaru first at around :22, then logo, then Ben, then unvote, then Ben again. It is maybe notable that he has said that he susses Haku but does not take the option to vote Haku off. I do think it takes balls to say you are voting for somebody that you think is a wolf, I am not sure that is how a wolf would spin it. Lol. I do not think they are W/W.
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roundbox: Defends Kappa from the late voters. Is worried about Shadow, votes there, and then changes his mind. At :41 complains about Haku's Logo vote, then votes there at :58, then seems surprised other people are voting there and picks a Celirra vote at :59. With that, rb could be worried about looking bad for the Haku train (if Haku is a town) or was hoping to distance without it actually getting traction and never meant to actually put Haku in danger. Overall, it seems he does not care that much about who actually dies, and cares more about pressuring people. Which, is an interesting strategy, better for early on than it would be later. But, three last minute votes on somebody who are either not going to die or are somebody roundbox did not see through to voting out, is limited pressure in my opinion.
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Charu: Puts a new vote on funkywong at :24. From Charu's shrug leans (mostly on the new people), only logoman had a single vote. I am curious why funkywong over FG, for instance, who was at least posting at the time, or the other shrug noobs. Defends Subaru, and does not really talk about the others who are being voted for. After a question to funkywong, he goes onto logoman at :49, and then complains a lot at the very end about the chaos.
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Haku: Went from storn to T-Force before end of day, and then onto Logo at :29. (I think the vote being counted for Subaru, was a sunfan mistake, I do not see it either, so not much to take from that). Encourages other people to vote. Defends self by saying there are not enough wolves to swing/snipe people last minute with so many total players (which I am not sure I agree with, since the trains were somewhat tiny). I feel it may be a cop out to vote an "unreadable" person to "simplify" things, but it makes sense to stay there for self-pres.
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Celirra:
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Originally Posted by Celirra
next time let them fight for themselves pls
(btw our days talking in cybernaut were awesome lets talk more sometime)
unvote
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I am having trouble understanding this, because it prompts an unvote, but Celirra is also complaining about it at the same time?
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Originally Posted by Celirra
mcdaddio
you have 5 min
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This to me seems safe and fake helpful because you will have OOTC to ask this person this in 5 minutes. I do not see why it is good use of time to throw a vote here, rather than focusing on the people who may die and creating the best outcome.
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T-Force: Votes Haku at [url=https://www.flashflashrevolution.com/vbz/showthread.php?p=4765624#post4765624]:34[/quote] for the Logo vote. I am not sure what specifically, Haku should know better than to do? I do like T-Force's pressure on Kappa, in that I think his analysis is reasonable, but ends up coming out of it liking Kappa more for sticking to guns. T-Force is only on Kappa for 3 minutes before going back on Haku.
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Storn: I do not really know the meta on storn in the way some of you seem to, but these are my thoughts.
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Originally Posted by storn42
goldslinger
idc wolf or town, i dont like this train of thought. if they do something to slip up, fine vote em, but i dont think voting new players for being inactive/null on D0 is the way to go.
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Originally Posted by storn42
doubling down on my goldstinger
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Gold stinger was pushing that inactives are anti-town and thus a good vote regardless. You are pushing that voting inactives is anti-town. It is kind of ironic, because you two are pretty much equally voting based on theories of anti-townness, rather than who could be a wolf. To me, it is a safe play, although you seem chaotic so I do not know that you feel forced into a safe play if you are a wolf. Then you are ending up on Haku, in the last 2 minutes, for some reason. Haku is at least not inactive, but I am wondering what your actual thought of Haku is.
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Xiz: He goes on Subaru on :34 to get people going (not clear what the lean is there) and he does not swap until :59. It seems like he is mostly going for chaos and memes, but I do not really get why he picked Haku over Kappa, after talking about not getting Kappa. I would like an explanation for that.
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Bugkid: Technically should be considered a Logo voter in my opinion even if it was not counted (:00 to save Haku). Even though they did not really go for anybody that had momentum, it is explained they are not convinced by the existing wagons. I generally like where their focus is even if I do not fully agree. They are not going for "low hanging fruit" with their pressure and their grumpiness sounded genuine, to me. The quip to Xiz about "we were on the same page for 2 minutes" was funny, and seemed genuine.