[Olimar12345]

Originally Posted by star-crossed

So...Olimar was told before this that the SK wins when "everyone dies" meaning that there is only one other person left, but still seemed to be under the impression on D0 that they won when another team won, since he asked about this. (This idea sounds like the Survivor role in Town of Salem, which can have vests at least, so it is kind of understandable to me...but the Survivor does not get to kill anybody). Because no one on the page the quote is from actually answered this part of his question, I can actually buy that this did not get cleared up for him fully.

I think that if he was the third party and really was that confused about it, he may have just admitted it to everybody, because in his mind the mafia should be focusing on the town, while the town should be focusing on the mafia. So it could help him make it to the end if he was honest about it, if he really was confused. I also still think it would really be weird for him to not ask blind how he is supposed to win if he is SK, since my understanding is that the SK had to choose between two powers before the game started. That is what I would do, at least, if I was confused.

The problem is though, that he did not actually really do anything to try to hang mafia on Days 0 to 3, besides saying he agreed with my lean on rb as a mafia and wanted to vote him (on D1). Which basically fits with somebody who thinks they win regardless of whether mafia or town die. His other statements that were not in defense of himself or asking people to give him a summary, were related to saying everybody he knows best seemed like a town (on D0)...which could be how he really felt, but I think it would be beneficial to him especially as an sk to get on their good sides.

Nowhere are the win conditions made clear by the host. Typically on NSM the host will put in the op “humans win when all wolves are dead. Wolves win... etc.” so I was left to assume that the game ends when the first victory is made. What’s different here (for me, at least) is that the human and wolf victory conditions include the death of the 3P.

You’re absolutely right about the question posting. As a 3P it would be really dumb to not just ask the host while talking to them about the role setup. I asked publically because I thought that would be able to answer it like in one post for me. Now look where we are =__=

Yeah, without going into too much irl details, it was hard to come home after long days and want to read 20 pages of a game. Trying not to play the excuse game but literally that’s all there is to it. I was just tired a lot :/ (school’s out for the summer though, so I am free now).