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Old 04-8-2026, 07:13 PM   #855
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Default Re: TWG 210: Vanilla Ice Cream in Sprite [GAME THREAD]

on Zenith, there's two major contradictions I have issues with after reading through his posts and their context.

the first:
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anyone trusting sunfan right now will be scrutinized come next phase
then, in response to sunfan asking why zenith voted him (other than vengeance):
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Vengeance is a fancy word for not knowing who to vote because all I did was basically focus on building a town circle last phase so I don't have any concrete wolf feelings (though, after Iso'ing Raeko I am now suspicious) and I still need my lick back for your play against me last game. Hold that vote homie
not anymore tho I need my vote
I don't think these two can both be genuine and come from a town mindset. "I didn't know who to vote. I was just building a town circle." isn't compatible with actively campaigning against sunfan and threatening/intimidating others to do the same


the second:
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Originally Posted by _Zenith_ View Post
Yo, still catching up on this most recent page of stuff, but I just wanted to say poor raeko man. It's so out of left field that I'm fairly confident someone thought they got a PR read and went for it so I'm sure we can find something like that in her iso.
then
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Not that there is a PR, but they must've felt like she was as threatening as one, or they think by killing her it'd implicate some random VT, or they could've RNG'd but either way I'm not going to spend more time explaining my misspoken moment or theorycrafting why they killed her.

Time is better spent on why she died
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I never meant to type PR in my post there, mentally as I was typing that I was racking my brain on why raeko would die there and I asked myself if I missed a soft somewhere and I want to say that's why I had PR on the mind.

In hindsight there's a gaping hole in my foot, but I'll take it in stride as it's not going to stop me from solving and continuing forward lol.
These cannot all be honest explanations of the same event. bugkid called it a crash out, but the way two contradictory explanations, each that contradict the original intent, are put forward to explain what would've been a simple mistake by town!Zenith does not add up.

All it would've taken to honestly and genuinely explain the original mistake would've been "oops, nvm I forgot this was a vanilla game!"

This alone is telling. I think the only way the multiple layers of dishonesty can come from a town player is if they're so ego-driven that they can't, at any cost, admit the mistake. I guess that level of ego could also explain why town!Zenith would be willing to try to drive a revenge lynch with no real read behind it, but I think that's a lot to swallow and I find it hard to believe the two together can both come from town. Lynch All Liars.

also, assuming Zenith==Wolf makes this post:
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Originally Posted by _Zenith_ View Post
Yo, still catching up on this most recent page of stuff, but I just wanted to say poor raeko man. It's so out of left field that I'm fairly confident someone thought they got a PR read and went for it so I'm sure we can find something like that in her iso. I know I forgot to breadcrumb a little before EoD so I'm interested to see if she left some form of legacy in her near-eod posts.

I also want to just outright say my itinerary this phase, which is to iso raeko immediately, and then from there I want to scope out the wagons. Ben might've also left some legacy breadcrumbs somewhere so I want to take a closer look at what he was cooking (or not cooking since y'all took him out back). After that I should probably organize a reads list cause I haven't done one yet, and then idk this is as far as my current planning goes.

rip raeko (the meta lives on!)
a very planned entrance to D1 after NKing Raeko. the "itinerary" basically creates an easy series of posts to make and look like "solving" is happening, when in reality a Raeko ISO does little to solve the game. Her reads could've been 100% accurate or 100% worthless and we'd never know.
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