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Originally Posted by Tps222
For what it's worth, my info has been consistent with how my role works and I claimed first in good faith.
Blind's info is:
1. a counter-claim that followed an d2-start immediate attack+ vote on me.
2. He uses inconsistent language in his claim with regards to what the role is named vs what it does. "just said he had a power or something". Is he a seer or a cop? If not a seer, why have a cop and a tracker?
3. His approach doesn't make sense because he said he thought there was only 1 town blue, so if he did see I had a power he should have immediately claimed and outed me as a wolf, there's nothing else I could possibly be in that scenario.
4. Blind voted star-crossed on D1 and left it there instead of switching to freezin as he hinted at. Freezin then tried to last-second pile on to Star-crossed. Sure, it could be coincidence, but there's a lot of bad circumstantial evidence here.
If we don't vote Blind out today, I think we should vote Jinx or Subaru. Subaru is who Freezin had initially voted before attempting to switch to Star, so that may have been an initial distancing attempt before time forced Freezin to switch.
Star is likely cleared from the D1 vote patterns, and Lakh seem to be leaning human to me based on their defense of Blind (I think a wolf would bandwagon on to a blue claim if they were the only one left). Bonehican actually seems genuine in their desire to self-lynch (even though I hate that approach, always consider yourself green and defend yourself publicly!)
If we go with Jinx/Subaru and we're wrong, I'm likely wolfed tonight and then you must decide between trusting Blind or voting out the remaining Jinx/Subaru player before we run down the clock. I'm trying to figure out the voting math if we go that way, but you would get a target report out of either me or blind should one of us not get lynched, just will be a decision on if you trust if (assuming it's not me providing the info).
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I think Bone is asking to be voted off is most likely a hail mary. If it works, then people let him live longer. If it does not, it puts a wolf team on the rocks out of their misery sooner. Win win.
I also do not think that that one action should probably make him more innocent than all of Jinx's interactions about Freezin on d0, although it is not out of the realm or possibility I have formed the wrong conclusion on those interactions. That is why I spent a lot of time displaying them clearly so people can take their own look.
I was hoping if Bone was town, he would maybe try to talk to Nakah about why Nakah is sus of him, or be more analytical on if there is any reason to doubt Jinx's interactions with Freezin, for example. Instead, he just kind of town read both of them with minimal thoughts. I do not know if he is afraid to make enemies or if he just does not know how to convincingly make an argument for either of them being sus.
Jinx's analysis of the claim situation was also more useful than Bone's. From my viewpoint, Bone is nitpicking whether Blind should have gotten colours as a result while Jinx actually noticed that yours is genuinely ambiguous.
Nakah in my mind seems to kind of just be doing his own thing. I do not understand a lot of it (such as why he is conspiracy theorising about the roundbox murder or why he is sus of Subaru). I think his demeanour is more convincing to me than Bone's right now though.
I have explained this before, but I will try once more with feeling. What Blind's role does is what I have linked twice from the Mafia universe and exactly matches the ability description he gave to begin with. Cop and Seer are basically interchangeable terms I think. So the role name is this game is Vanilla Seer, but it does the exact same thing that a Vanilla Cop does.
Yes I understand it was a bit confusing the way he spoke of it, but it makes more sense that he was just trying not to get mod killed. He has played enough TWG to know what a seer actually is and he is clearly less familiar with this vanilla finding role (because it is not as common.) Maybe he has never heard of it until he got the role. From my standpoint, that actually makes it more likely it is truthful.
I also understand that you feel there is an inconsistency with how he handled the information he reports to have gotten. I personally believe this apparent inconsistency is explained if he thought it was more likely that you were a wolf, but was not fully convinced, and thought it was safer to hint it and not come out with it in full.
And finally and most importantly,
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Originally Posted by TWG Jeff Probst
Vote count:
star-crossed - 2 (blindreper, Freezin)
blindreper - 1 (star-crossed)
roundbox - 1 (TPS)
TPS - 1 (LastOfTheBonehicans)
Freezin - 1 (roundbox)
LastOfTheBonehicans - 1 (JinxGrace)
JinxGrace - 1 (Lahkesis)
Has not voted: Subaru
if anything is incorrect please let me know
Please stop posting right at 9:00CST, any posts/votes submitted on or after 9:00 will not count
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Originally Posted by SubaruPoptart
freezin FUCK YOU PHONE
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Did you miss the part that Subaru literally killed Freezin at the last minute? It would have looked weird for him to just sit there and let me get voted out when he said he was town reading me the most, but he had so many vote options.
Ummm... Sorry I now see that you posted more about Subaru and Jinx but I think I am just going to still post this in case it helps somebody.