TWG 202 - POST-GAME

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  • star-crossed
    FFR Player
    • Oct 2017
    • 475

    #16
    Re: TWG 202 - POST-GAME

    Originally posted by T-Force
    star-crossed: "All of them... Please do not discriminate." -> Purple
    Among all your crimes, the worst one is censoring the gay agenda

    This was a unique TWG experience. I think there was a good amount of evidence in favor of "Day 0" just being the time frame where you stand around waiting for the host player to start the game. We had no win condition in the Applicant message and gained it in the "real" role PM; there were no vote counts or results from our attempts at voting each other; the host updated the second post to link to "Night 1 begins / Game starts".

    I got the impression T-Force intended for the situation to be more clear for us after we got the second role PM. It was confusing that the game started on Night 1 instead of Night 0, and for me even more so that T-Force specifically referred to what we were considering as Day 0 as a "phase" being extended. I think not being able to even agree on when the impostors knew they were impostors made it way more difficult to have consistent expectations and work together. Just one more subject for us to fight and get paranoid over. Of course, somehow all the paranoia of willful ignorance seemed to be TvT.

    I understand why from a host perspective it was an interesting experiment, but between that particular mystery element and the lack of any mechanics that would provide any confirmed information for town, it was challenging. Almost all of us had some sort of life circumstances that made it more difficult to just be here. (Someone helpfully lectured us in postgame that we voted out the wrong inactive player with COVID on Day 1.) I think all of these factors led to discord and uncertainty that just permeated everything.

    One of my weaknesses is getting stuck in my own head. Even more than in most turbos, I really had trouble finding much to anchor around to narrow down what to productively do in the game in the time frame that we had. Somehow we just ended up all talking in circles about Haku ad nauseum, which understandably didn't give Haku a whole lot to solve based on either. I was fed up with everything after the lurker-Haku KITB. I really wanted to overcome my weakness in final 5. I wanted the wolves to finally feel the same despair some of the rest of us had been feeling.

    FFA and Freezin let us defeat ourselves. The last vote count summed it up perfectly. Thanks to both of you for making me want to get it right that much more next time. I'm also sad that higher-effort-than-usual-Xel sorta got wasted on this particular set of circumstances, but it is what it is.
    twg quotes here - https://listography.com/starxcrossed

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    • T-Force
      Your world ends with you
      FFR Simfile Author
      • Jan 2007
      • 4753

      #17
      Re: TWG 202 - POST-GAME

      Originally posted by star-crossed
      Among all your crimes, the worst one is censoring the gay agenda
      I didn't know if you wanted me to out you like that. I can edit it with the full quote.
      Life is simply unfair... Don't you think?

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      • XelNya
        [Kaho]
        FFR Simfile Author
        • Sep 2012
        • 3369

        #18
        Re: TWG 202 - POST-GAME

        Ok. I am calmer now. Let me I guess try to articulate some stuff.

        I think a huge hard tip off should have been when I wasn’t held to the fire. I think in most situations I should have been, as I said during the game. It’s a bigger flag post game than mid game. The lurker train was awful. I should have iso’d haku AND FFA. I think we go differently there.

        I didn’t fully intend to destroy Haku with that long post. Sincerely any of those bigger points falls the rest followed imho. But I am literally the last person emotional appeals work on when i’m being aggressive, and I think most folks would agree with me. I think Haku dude you gotta play with a bit more sense. You’re literally inches away from being a solid Xiz-style player, I wanna see you get there.

        I also have come around that FFA and Freezin played correctly by being quiet and not voting. I think it was a good read of a possible cfd onto ffa.

        Also I will say I think I couldn’t have been, at least at the start, more charitable with that long post. But missing two days, one due to laziness, the other due to sleeping for 12 hours straight and being silly tired all weekend didn’t help, but I had the time. Totally fair.

        Uhg. I’m a bit mad I didn’t do the extra iso. Good tunnel, not enough lanes.

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        • lurker
          ur worst nitemare
          FFR Simfile Author
          • Jan 2003
          • 1628

          #19
          Re: TWG 202 - POST-GAME

          i actually take that back
          i regret not completely destroying freezin for the late vote
          i was just pissed off because i interpreted 1-2 of haku's posts as taunting me for not being awake at the same time as them
          some feathery f**k

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          • lurker
            ur worst nitemare
            FFR Simfile Author
            • Jan 2003
            • 1628

            #20
            Re: TWG 202 - POST-GAME

            oh yeah also if day 0 counted we would've won, ffa was in the kitb and any attempt by me to get him lynched would've been countered with "but you counted the joke phase"
            Last edited by lurker; 07-18-2022, 01:12 PM.
            some feathery f**k

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            • ShadoWolfe
              FFR Player
              • Jun 2009
              • 171

              #21
              Re: TWG 202 - POST-GAME

              Shoutout to Xel for kicking butt til the end
              Keep swinging 'til it's lights out





              Originally posted by Hakulyte
              I followed the "by the book" play, but I was reading the "not to do" page.
              Originally posted by XelNya
              " I'd suck a dick in a dark, dark alley."
              Originally posted by YoshL
              "i gave you 20 ducks, and spent a lot of time making one of them quack, and pointed at the particular one and asked "is that one the worst quacker"" ... "you could still give somewhat of an answer based on the quality of the quacks, and the other random quacks from the ducks surrounding that weren't the center of focus."
              Originally posted by mellon_collie
              "I love Wolfe's duck avi so much. Shado's Duck Shrine is the best!!

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              • XelNya
                [Kaho]
                FFR Simfile Author
                • Sep 2012
                • 3369

                #22
                Re: TWG 202 - POST-GAME

                Originally posted by ShadoWolfe
                Shoutout to Xel for kicking butt til the end
                Keep swinging 'til it's lights out
                In my defense...

                BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GODS.

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                • Hakulyte
                  Galaxy Collapse says hi
                  • Jul 2005
                  • 4697

                  #23
                  Re: TWG 202 - POST-GAME

                  Originally posted by XelNya
                  I think Haku dude you gotta play with a bit more sense. You’re literally inches away from being a solid Xiz-style player, I wanna see you get there.

                  Out of curiosity, if you were in my shoes in the D3 EoD; what would you have posted to attempt to convince yourself ?

                  I feel like that's still a blind spot on my side for sure.

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                  • flashflash account
                    FFR Player
                    • Apr 2017
                    • 567

                    #24
                    Re: TWG 202 - POST-GAME

                    Originally posted by lurker
                    oh yeah also if day 0 counted we would've won, ffa was in the kitb and any attempt by me to get him lynched would've been countered with "but you counted the joke phase"
                    I was town on day 0 tho
                    aka mikey

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                    Originally posted by FreezinIce
                    FFA playing 4D chess in Gemity while us mortals are stuck on this gay earth

                    Originally posted by QueenAshy
                    I’ve demonstrated self-awareness
                    Originally posted by MinaciousGrace
                    i was pretty close to letting this slide tbh, but honestly your utter lack of understanding of the situation irritates me more than anything else at this point
                    Originally posted by MinaciousGrace
                    seriously everything i wrote went way over your head if your reading comprehension is so far below third grade level while people may care about your opinion you should refrain from giving it because it's worthless

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                    • XelNya
                      [Kaho]
                      FFR Simfile Author
                      • Sep 2012
                      • 3369

                      #25
                      Re: TWG 202 - POST-GAME

                      Originally posted by Hakulyte
                      Out of curiosity, if you were in my shoes in the D3 EoD; what would you have posted to attempt to convince yourself ?

                      I feel like that's still a blind spot on my side for sure.
                      I’m blinded by hindsight now, but the best argument would be to have pointed out FFA guarding you, and the storn nk framing suited a change to FFA not so much a focus on you, if ffa flips red you should flip red as i said.

                      You could have said “if the argument is ffa is doing this and that, and it makes me look bad, why are you not voting ffa?”

                      This is why i feel i should have iso’d him btw.

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                      • roundbox
                        fhqwhgads
                        • Feb 2005
                        • 2085

                        #26
                        Re: TWG 202 - POST-GAME

                        Hey everyone haku's slip wasn't a slip
                        Also send Force some games
                        Originally posted by the sun fan
                        I'd be too tiny to be a bouncer



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