[MixMasterLar]

D3.

This day phase there was a lot of SunFan, Xiz and Roundbox taking shots at each other and it all reads as three towns with no leads trying to make reads. I'm there for half the phase drunk and I miss EoD because I lost track of time playing Overwatch. I don't quote a lot of what happens because it all either is at now confirmed towns or are proddings that lead to dead ends. Maybe I've just convinced myself at this point that Roundbox is a miss but I can't read any of his post as deep wolf.

Xel is consistently around even though he doesn't do much but get angry with Antori and I think that's a good look for him.

Originally Posted by the sun fan

nah its totally fine; shooting town is not that big of a deal there

funnygurl will cry when I say it but it was a fine shot imo

Proof I was not the only one who assumed Funny was the shot, since the idea that I am becomes such a sticking point

Originally Posted by Antori

guys why did you insta so early bruh i didn't even hit my daily post count

This is followed by a bunch of nothing followed by a bunch of near nothing.

Originally Posted by Xelicopter

'KAY SO DELIVERING (FOR ONCE YEAH.)

JACK OF ALL TRADES HERE. (N 1 2 3)

HI.

MY CONTRIBUTIONS ARE GONNA BE:

I HAVE A CONFIRMED ROLE. I WILL NOT SAY WHO IT IS UNLESS THEY'RE ABOUT TO BE TABLE'D.

MOVING ON SIDE OF CAUTION WITH THE DROP OF WHO / WHAT IT IS. I'M SHIT TOWN PR IT'S BEEN A LONG FUCKING TIME ROFL.

I'VE USED ROLECOP AND TRACKER, WHICH WAS ON FG, WHO IS NOW GONE. BUT I CAN CONFIRM THAT EVEN THAT SHE'S DEAD, SHE DIDN'T VISIT ANYONE LAST NIGHT.

LAST ONE LEFT IS ROLE BLOCKER.

SO READS LIST:

1. the sun fan
2. Xiz
3. MixMasterLar
4. roundbox
5. SubaruPoptart
6. XelNya/Xelicopter
7. HateandHatred
8. Antori
9. jessiebessie
10. Precarious
11. psychoangel691

SO FOR ME THE LYNCH PILE ARE THE PURPLE NAMES.

/WHIRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRL

Xel outs his role and actually contributes to the game in a pretty significant way here. I intentionally hold on to the fact that this could be faked or he could roll this as wolf and is trying to gain town cred, but looking back we know that he kills Antori the next night phase if he's wolf every time and probably holds off making a claim altogether. WolfXel legit has no business making this post ever.

I think at this point I remove Xel from the possible lynch candidates

Originally Posted by psychoangel691

Sorry, literally crashed out on my couch from not sleeping well lately. Still kinda getting used to the game again as well. I mentioned before that Antori was suspect to me, I still feel that way. I have to dig through posts, and all the youtube ones don't help there ya know >_O lol

xiz always wolf

This is a pretty weak comback for Psychoangel. She was around for the start of the day but basically posts "whoa" and this is what we get hours in.

The Xiz bit at the end is a shitpost and there's a long bit where Xi gets riled up about it that wastes everyone's time.

Originally Posted by psychoangel691

Gonna start way back with shadow and go from there.





Spent a lot of time pushing on Enquisite (subaru now) feels like a cheap way out. Could be a distancing technique but I feel more like it was just an easy way to get a townie kill and be like but but they were being inactive blah blah



Antori I was already suspect because of another post I'd mentioned earlier I have to find it again but this only makes me more suspect.


On to the next person

Her first reads of the day basically repeat herself from the last phase, talking about Shadow God being on Equisit. Antori read is standard Antori read

I'll just put the rest of her reads under spoilers for reference since I don't have that much to add to them

Originally Posted by psychoangel691

Haven't played with jessiebessie before so not sure how they generally play. A little sad to see they haven't posted since the 10th being that these seem pretty solid to me. Not thinking any of this was a big ploy or anything so town lean on jessiebessie

So as of this post

jessie - town lean
subaru - town lean
antori - wolf lean


continuing on

Originally Posted by psychoangel691

Admitted wolf right here, must be wolf



Hmm.... the whens it gonna be my time, I think it is your time.



I get the reasoning but this feels really off to me.



I dunno how you call yourself the towniest when you've not really been contributing a whole lot to conversations on people.






I really want to point out that hate just so happened to perfectly land both wolf votes with no other votes? (Unless I totally overlooked it) Really really feels like a "watch this guys I'm gonna be on both wolf kills so I look least suspect" but in reality with lack of contribution this looks highly suspcious to me.



I mean I aint even mad at being voted but care to actually say something? Ask me something? Rather than trying to go for an easy townie kill due to "lack of activity" please give me something to debate on

Originally Posted by psychoangel691

I mean out of everything from Xel really all I've got to look into is this claim here. I feel it unlikely to be a fake claim for now.

Percarious I can't really say anything on yet because little to no info avail. Hoping to see more there soon.

Just gonna keep putting my list down so I don't lose track.

Sun Fan - still evaluating
Xiz - still evaluating
MML - still evaluating
roundbox - still evaluating
Subaru - town lean
XelNya - FUCKING WHIRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRL (town lean for time being)
Hate - wolf lean
Antori- wolf lean
jessie - town lean
Precarious - not enough info

Originally Posted by psychoangel691

Actually antori

dropping this here for now I wanna hear more from this person

Originally Posted by psychoangel691

Solid questioning on shadow



Here also finding hate's vote odd, thinking seems simliar to mine.


I don't love the super confident feeling of "very much not" but another that aligns with what I've been thinking so far.


I really like this being pointed out here, I'd probably have completely missed it. How would MML know which was the wolfkill in this situation? I do still have to read MML's posts so perhaps it's explained there and I just don't know it yet, so take this with me having no info from MML's side currently.


Attempting to put some thoughts into everyone in the game. I can't really say anything as of right now stands out as super suspect from roundbox for me.

Sun Fan - still evaluating
Xiz - still evaluating
MML - still evaluating
roundbox - town lean
Subaru - town lean
XelNya - town lean
Hate - wolf lean
Antori- wolf lean
jessie - town lean
Precarious - not enough info

Originally Posted by psychoangel691

I'm gonna need a little time when it comes to Sun, Xiz and MML with all the posting. I figure there likely has to be one wolf in there somewhere and then one between antori or hate though. Just because it'd be really odd to me if there weren't at least one super active wolf, lol.

Originally Posted by Antori

dont vote me please i know i look bad cause o voted neither of previous other wolfs

if it's necessary we can do rolecall only one mafia left

So this slip

Charu would tell me never to trust slips and I really wasn't present enough to catch this but

Yo that's kind of a slip I'm not sure Wolf Antori could really make

Anyway, Xiz and Psycho get to go at it.

Originally Posted by Xiz

Bumping, because this is super sus.

Traction was gaining on me from round box and sunfan, psycho claimed this then when asked why by sunfan she backpedalled and still hasn’t given a reason as to why.

If I end up dying today, my dying wish is for town to lynch psycho. (Hey round box this mostly for you since your always keen about doing that)

Originally Posted by Xiz

I don’t think I can kill pop tart this game.
Don’t think I want to kill xelnya.
HnH I’ll sheep Greg for, town

Psycho/Ant
Psycho/MML

If psycho is town, I don’t see A MML/Ant connection so precarious perhaps, roundbox is a ? For me so I guess him next but like him atm

Psychoangel shots back, most of this doesn't seem to matter in hindsight but that last point she makes---

Originally Posted by psychoangel691

Wait what? What did I backpedal on? I've never even voted you, only vote I've made is antori because I'm pretty sure there's a wolf between them or hate. I was making a joke at Xiz always wolf, haven't even made a decision on you yet but feel now like you're taking the cheap way out on me.



Not doing anything? Oh... ok

Like yo, at this point it took her 3 phases to do reads. The criticism is fine, even if it's a bit unfair because of the OT stuff

But then this happens:

Originally Posted by psychoangel691

Yeah I mean I can't sit for hours back to back on the game here, I went through the easiest people first. People like you MML and Xiz are harder for me to read and have much lengthier postcounts.

Though I just read Xiz's and frankly talk about me doing nothing but majority of Xiz's post lack any real content to them. Lots of pressure on me for really silly things. Early game for what? Posting chit chat like everyone else? Then now because I'm not active enough? I mean, there's several others who haven't been in here so why so much on me vs them?

Xiz has literally been in a 3 way with Sun and Round most all the phase, you can go ISO Xiz's post if you want (This post is long enough as is) if you don't want to take my word for it but this is just not matching up with how Xiz has actually been playing the phase.

How he played d0 and d2? yeah. Xiz's d0 especially sucked balls but here this doesn't come off as "Took you a minute yourself to get going" But more "NO YOU!!!!1!!"

Originally Posted by psychoangel691

I don't fully understand the mechanics, always been a pitfall of mine in these games. I also haven't really played -that much- TWG overall and last game has to have been years ago that I actually got to play. I don't even remember now.
Everyone is p much suspect to me all the time because I mean comon as a wolf your whole goal is to deceive. I try to think of actions people may take to try to be last wolf standing. I know as a wolf I never hesitated to throw a fellow wolf under the bus to look town, so why wouldn't I suspect others to do the same?

Xiz as I noted above seems to overall be playing a lazy game thus far (I don't recall old play so maybe it's normal) but the knee jerk reaction to me making a joke makes me suspicious. I probably wouldn't jump on killing Xiz today, but I'm definitely not putting him in my yep defo town pile.

I actually do not like when players make obvious excuses on why they are not sure or confident on things. More Xiz is lazy talk.

Originally Posted by the sun fan

HE DIDNT EVEN KNOW
FUNNYGURL
WAS KILLED
BY THE WOLVES

Neither then I but look where we are now.

Originally Posted by Xelicopter

ok character breaking srs post again

but not knowing english isn't an excuse to play the game how you're playing it

I know what your fucking role is

stop playing intentionally bad out of frustration, and formulate a real read

because what you're doing is counter intuitive to the sheep read you're going for like

think in context to how town views you (side note: they think you're scum)

even if roundbox is scum we literally cannot lynch the slot when you're doing what you're doing right now

The only way I can see Xel make this post as a wolf is if Antori is his partner and Xel is really pissed

Which if that where true (it can't be at this point) Xel would either just buss and laugh or never claim he knew Antori's role.

I just feel like this is town Xel I'm reading

And now, for the reads of a wolf

Originally Posted by Precarious

mml--generally aggressive, focused tone. Feels town
suspects roundbox, but notes driving
sort of taking charge early. Good tone overall, but the "I'll hold you to it" to Xel feels a little...something. Not sure.
Slightly defensive when voted, but seemingly annoyed with believing Xel does sync better with above.

xel--is a helicopter. Gimmick is a little difficult to read, but feels engaged tonally?
Claims JOAT. Has a roleblock left. Half-and-half reads.
Gimmick is entertaining but really hard to read physically. Gets into it with MML.

Xiz--"rip Svaz." Don't care for these sort of woe-is-me postmortems
requests reads from Sun. Interesting with no reads of their own listed. ISO and check previous.
On check, seems overly sheeping of sun fan. Only caveat is that wolf-Xiz seemed more engaged and towny when I played with him last, so coasting
could be alignment-neutral. But I don't care for it.
Keeps pressing sunfan for extra info, despite offering nothing and outright sheeping. Strange. Is trying to understand it though? Still sus.
What the actual fuck is going on here?
"Disappointed we're not mind melding." What is going on? Why is he sheeping sunfan so conspicuously? Deliberately blatant?
Acutally posts his own reads...and they're solid?
Then sheeps onto Kayla. *VOTES* (3)
Then immediately switches onto MML with actual reasoning (reverse engineering). *VOTES* MML 1.
Claims to have tracked sunfan (to roundbox). Sunfan confirms this.
Is more engaged now, playing more like Xiz I know. That Xiz has always been wolf though.

sunfan--requests n2 actions. Reasonable in setting, alignment-neutral.
Town reads: jessie, sven, subaru. Jessie and Sven mechanically, Subaru due to D1 interactions with wolf-ShadowGod
mml--"tier 2". Thin afterward.
Thinks Zenith kill was weird.
*VOTES* Kayla based on "nonsensical" NK. Apparently her meta?
Switches *VOTE* to Xiz, based on the tracking convo. Although the track was accurate.
YouTube. Lots of YouTube.

Subaru--feels new. Hard for me to parse so far. Claims an N2 vig shot. After questioning from sunfan, did NOT shoot funnygirl? Means they shot Zenith.
Shot because Zenith had a vote and was thinking "what if." Tone seems honest.
Lots of newness stuff. Probably town, hard to believe they could keep this up while having info elsewhere.

psychoangel--mentions deaths last night. Same as Xiz but it bothers me less because it doesn't simulate sadness I guess?
Wakes up having missed a wagon on them and then dissipated I guess.
Some quick reads, then really leans into Hatred. Slot has been correct, but not really corrobated it. Sort of has a point, but hard to argue
with the results.
Then votes Antori.
Continued activity. Seems to be engaging.

Hatred: Laughing at events--apparently town losses at night. Opposite of usual crocodile tears, actually reads kind of towny.
*VOTES* Kayla (2) with no justification. Is this their style?
Interesting response to Kayla. Don't know how to read this slot.

Antori--self aware about inactivity.
Post 2: too self aware.
Does sort of push massclaim though. Kind of weird in role chaos.
But next post feels new-ish. Tone clashes here.
Self-preservation content stands out.


Roundbox--very traditional playstyle with direct content responses to posts. Don't remember their meta, but townish on face.
Lots of decent-ish content. Feels slightly remote, kind of like my style.
Also "Bruhs" though.
Reads seems standard, maybe too safe.
Tone loosens up?
Tone is all over the place. Feels vaguely newish in statements occasionally, also has posts understanding the game.

Susses Xiz and Antori. Will go on to vote Antori and then vote Xiz when confronted to vote between the two of us later. Pretty consistent for a wolf actually.

He makes another reads post

Originally Posted by Precarious

Okay, here's where I am.


sun fan--town. Feels like past town-sunfans tonally--a sort of semi-certainty tinged with aggression. Actual game events make town read pretty solid.

Xiz--wolf? The sheeping Sunfan early was weird, but settled into a much more active, analytical posture later. The problem is, this is wolf-Xiz in every game I've played with him. Enough fluff and odd stuff to be distracting, then solid play to bring it back home.

MML--aggressive at first, then sort of faded in my attention. Remained fairy aggressive, but less confident in a way. Weak town lean.

roundbox--town-ish, but feels a bit too generic in style. Later posts are better because they feel more organic. Overall profile leans town.

Subaru--ultra new. Not 100% convinced, but 90% probably--it would be hard to do this as a new wolf.

Xel--unreadable and emotionless like all machines. Null leaning town based on engagement and actual logic.

HateandHatred--sort of a weird slot. Very self-aware. Reading these players is hard. I don't really like the style, but the results lean town.

Antori--opposite of subaru. Lots of newness actions mixed with actual game-awareness and self-awareness, compounded by self-preservation actions stated explicitly. Starts posting without actually saying anything. Probably a wolf.

jessie--town based on prior actions. Not a lot recently, but headspace seems solid enough.

psychoangel--most interesting slot to me. Lots of early heat, but response was pretty measured. I don't like that people got off of their votes so easily, but probing seemed both pertinent and slightly frustrated. Town lean.

and later on still, actual votes

Originally Posted by Precarious

Antori

Originally Posted by Precarious

But Xiz, since he's the better option of the two that could happen.

Originally Posted by the sun fan

B R U H
that one is for you, Xiz
roundbox deserves death for that vote

To be fair to Roundbox, he has been reading me town all game and would have to contradict a shit ton of himself to vote me there. Also your case on me was weak

How weak?

Glad you asked

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And as a bonus, here's SunFan's entire progression on me

Originally Posted by the sun fan

I think my top towns are, in order, jessie, sven and subaru
I don't /think/ any of them can be wolves

jessie and sven for more obvious reasons, and subaru for the way that Shadow_God complained about that slot on the first day

lar is kinda by himself in the second tier. the way he complained about cocoa probably purposely not posting as scum didn't feel like it was w/w and he's kinda running with that idea today a little bit. Just doesn't feel like he was partners with cocoa (I also would expect him to vote for cocoa over zenith initially if he were partners with Cocoa)

after lar, we get real thin with antori

antori still kind of has some solviness to him; I think the early insta cut him off from getting around to his content, and that might be the only bad thing that happened from the early insta, I'd have a strong opinion about him by the end of today most likely

of the remaining names, I think none of them have done anything super-townie; it wouldn't surprise me if any of them were wolves or towns or w/e

I don't feel super strongly about any of them being wolves, but my gut pushes me towards Kayla and Xel

Kayla because she hasn't really done any solving of her own that I can recall and Xel because he did a 180 on the insta yesterday or something; I'll have to look but it was weird when I saw it

roundbox was afk y'day, he could be anything

cloud wine didn't post y'day, he could be anything

xiz is just blindly sheeping me after his two scumreads on d0 were two towns, he could be anything

where I'm @

claims today should help me feel better/worse about the POE

Originally Posted by the sun fan

I believe Xel is kinda townie for his last 2 posts
I believe that Xiz is town despite an abysmal use of his ability last night
I believe sven is still town although he's gonna have to start posting more
I believe jessie is always town because I have a functional brain
I believe that Subaru is way, way, way too good at faking how a new town vigi would react here if he is a wolf

add me in and that's auto

I'm down to mow down the rest, ending with Lar because he's actually doing stuff

and I'll say it once and then move on Xiz since I'm still pretty bothered about it
its not a compliment to track me there, its an insult

Originally Posted by the sun fan

larl

Originally Posted by the sun fan

Jim, I've decided that if ur a wolf
I dont want to deal with it today

Originally Posted by the sun fan

anyone not doing anything is a wolf
someone doing something is town

I can kill kayla or roundboy or prec

Originally Posted by the sun fan

sunfan
sven
jessie
suarbu
xiz
antori

lynch the rest, I think

Originally Posted by the sun fan

Larlos

Originally Posted by the sun fan

Larla

Originally Posted by the sun fan

Lareg

Originally Posted by the sun fan

Everytime lar is a polite boi hes a woofer

Originally Posted by the sun fan

mixmasterlar

I mean, Sun always town but shit dawg don't act like I'm being unreasonable about this