[the sun fan]

Originally Posted by the sun fan

so that leaves Manti, Lar, raeko

I kind of don't like that I'm ending up with the same bottom 3 or so, but it is what I have here. I think the worst that I could possibly be playing is only being 1/3 on these three, though, with something like inD, roundbox, [one of the above three] so I think I'm... ok.

Manti, I think it just kind of feels like he's wolfin' more than anything else. I have to firstly admit that I've never seen him have a reaction like that, as a wolf or as town or as anything, to when Charu said what he said. I think it is possible for him to have that response regardless of alignment, and here's why.

Manti and Charu have a little bit of history. A very, very small bit. This is not me using weak language as I often do, its really just a tiny, little bit. Charu has felt singled out for how he formats his postgames (Manti has said that he doesn't like something about how Charu does it, I don't remember what), and Manti sometimes feels like playing with Charu, and I roughly quote "Gives [Manti] flashbacks to 'Nam."

What I don't mean to say here is that they don't like one another. Please do not mistake that for what I am saying. What I am saying is that they can get under one another's skin sometimes. So, when Charu said that he hopes Manti does something later, I can see Manti being particularly annoyed.

Manti is a prideful man. Its what makes good TWG players. I can see Manti taking what Charu said as an affront to his ability to put in a good TWG posting game. Coupled with the fact that I think Manti thinks that some players, Charu and certainly myself included, make too many posts for the game of TWG to be played well. I think that this could all lead him to have that reaction as a wolf.

I would normally not be on this level of thought, but this game is really, really fucking hard for me. Life heard me talking about how complacent I was with my townreads yesterday, and you know what happens from then on.

As an aside, regardless of all else, this definitively means that Charu and Manti can never be wolves together or it would legitimately blow my mind.

The reason I post all of this is because I think that it feels like Manti is a wolf, especially with leaving Charu alive. I posted earlier that I felt like I could hear Manti saying "If we leave Charu alive, townies will get paranoid. They always get paranoid." I don't really have an explanation for Charu being alive still, especially over neee(?) last night (not to say neee wouldn't be a threat to the wolves because he almost always is as a townie etc etc).

This is probably more than I meant to type out on Manti, but there's a few more small things. I think its not good for Manti to be evaluating funny as a wolf. I know he often believes strongly in his reads, as he should, but based on how that wagon developed, and based on how funny was playing, I don't think I can evaluate funny as a wolf, and I don't like that Manti is doing so.

I don't have a lack of reasons to believe that Manti could be town. I still do think that his invocation of syhto's name was townie. I just think it kind of fit in with what I /think/ was a role-neutral response.

I don't like the way that Manti put roundbox off to the side either. I don't think he does that as town past d0.

I will fully admit that this is a complicated read and I do sincerely believe that, more often than not, reads that are very complicated are incredibly unlikely to be right for the right reasons.

In very, very brief terms, it just feels like Manti is wolfing because I have no other explanation for Charu being alive as town.

read the very last sentence if you have to, DBP, but I kind of dont' want to repeat myself from earlier on Manti