[Hakulyte]

Originally Posted by MinaciousGrace

i'm simply pointing out that it seems like a lot of discussion around gender ends up with semantic knot twisting and that's painfully obvious throughout this thread and that i personally do not understand why there isn't a more academic(oh no!!!!!) framework for discussing it and i want to know why

I think we just forgot to establish a common ground before discussing.

or

The point of the thread is to establish that common ground in the first place by asking questions.