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Originally Posted by devonin
They refer to things clearly stated in the bible that were changed.
Slavery is right there in the new testament too. Jesus even addressed slaves directly to tell them to serve their masters on earth as loyally as they serve God in heaven.
So yeah.
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yes, since there was slavery in that time. One of the things comes up in the bible is respecting and submitting to authority. Paul was addressing slaves saying that they were under their master's authority, and reminding them to serve with a good heart.
I fail to see how this is related to the bible saying homosexuality is wrong tho...
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Originally Posted by _.Spitfire._
Homophobia encompasses a range of negative attitudes and feelings toward homosexuality or people who are identified or perceived as being lesbian, gay, bisexual or transgender (LGBT). It can be expressed as antipathy, contempt, prejudice, aversion, or hatred, and may be based on irrational fear.
Homophobia is observable in critical and hostile behavior such as discrimination and violence on the basis of sexual orientations that are non-heterosexual.
And you mean to tell me that discriminating homosexuality is not homophobia? Because that's what they're doing. Discriminating homosexuality.
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I disagree with homosexuality as a way of life. everyone is entitled to their opinion. I hold no contempt, prejudice, aversion or hatred of homosexuals. I have homosexual friends. I treat them the same way as I do my hetero friends. God loves them identically to heterosexuals and so should I.
you really think i'm a homophobe?
It is appalling how some people treat homosexuals, and many of those people are christians. they do not reflect how God views them...
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Originally Posted by devonin
Those apostles were all up ons continuing to support slavery and domination of men over women.
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why does everyone keep referring to these passages in this context? Paul also said that husbands should love their wives as jesus loves the church. I'd hardly say that jesus enslaves and dominates the church...
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Originally Posted by Reincarnate
I am going to assume you misspoke, because no human should be able to say this without immediately recoiling with the words, "Wow, that was absurdly stupid and that came out wrong. What I really meant was..."
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no, i meant all of that. In the Bible, homosexuality is a sin. Lying, stealing, adultery, etc... same thing. Sin distances you from God, thus, homosexuality distances you from God.
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Originally Posted by Reincarnate
People do not get their values from the Bible/God/etc. There's no way you can make a rational/consistent argument for this, btw. It's a losing position no matter how far you take it.
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um how do you figure? The vast majority of my values come from the Bible. Integrity, not gossiping, kindness, etc... all taught in the bible.