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Originally Posted by kommisar

Haha Bufang you have never been so wrong in your life.


We've discussed the reasons why elitism can lead a community to achieve great things. The purpose of having experienced people judge and criticize files is exactly because they are more experienced and can show others guidelines on how to step properly.


Or you can be lenient and have white noise files thrown together with no coherent structure and lazy composition in every pack.

that doesn't mean you just stop everybody else under some standard of qualification (and how exactly is this determined again?) when they're clearly trying to contribute something they want to share with the community. does that mean that we just applaud every effort blindly without a critical viewpoint? no. it means that you respect what they're trying to do and leave it be if you're not going to contribute anything yourself.

I was 13 years old when I made FFR Community Pack, and given the ridiculous hostility and shitbagging I got from most of the regulars around the community at the time, that's probably the only reason I managed to finish it. was it good? not really (though certainly not terrible either). was it well-received? hell no. did completing the project make me and others who may have been participating in a community project for the first time? absolutely. my point is that not everybody pops out of the ~magical Stepmania vagina~ with a fully formed concept of what quality is. but as veterans, people who have likely been through the same shit before rising to positions of respect, we've got to let them try, damn it.

not all of this has to do with this specific instance, of course, but I feel that getting away from an overarching atmosphere in the Stepmania community where it's a small circle of people running the show with newcomers just standing at the sidelines because they can't get anything off the ground could be good. maybe not every pack that comes out of this is going to be as great as everything that came out of the so-called Golden Age. but even my 12-year-old dumb self got somewhere eventually. I think it's fair to give others a shot. just my two cents.

Originally Posted by ScylaX

tl;dr let's focus on what's positive instead of indefinitely create hostilities
I mean it's a simple as that.

yeah this too