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  • zolaric
    FFR Veteran
    • Jul 2009
    • 250

    #31
    Re: KeyBeatOnline.com

    Originally posted by icontrolyourworld
    I seriously miss KBO when it was super active while ffr was down
    postwhore wars !!

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    • Arch0wl
      Banned
      FFR Simfile Author
      • Dec 2002
      • 6344

      #32
      Re: KeyBeatOnline.com

      Originally posted by Patashu
      if you ever had a week with nothing to do but sit in front of your computer you could generate 15 fully charted files that week

      what happened to labours of love
      We're working on that part.

      Currently we're in a search for someone to be a "simfile chief" or something to this effect. This would allow stargroup the ability to work on important features like the difficulty algorithm without being bogged down by simfile projects.

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      • kommisar
        Dark Chancellor
        FFR Simfile Author
        FFR Music Producer
        • Jun 2005
        • 7328

        #33
        Re: KeyBeatOnline.com

        lack of release is a big turn off right now and dramer has driven me away from the site

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        • wargasm1
          Cowbelling FFR
          • Apr 2007
          • 1289

          #34
          Re: KeyBeatOnline.com

          I like kbo better than ffr, the 6k is kickass. i dont login cause theres no grandtotal rank and ffr has it :P.

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          • Plan_Bsk81127
            snooches
            FFR Simfile Author
            • Aug 2007
            • 6420

            #35
            Re: KeyBeatOnline.com

            Grandtotal is a pointless rank......

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            • stargroup100
              behanjc & me are <3'ers
              FFR Simfile Author
              FFR Music Producer
              • Jul 2006
              • 2051

              #36
              Re: KeyBeatOnline.com

              Originally posted by wargasm1
              I like kbo better than ffr, the 6k is kickass. i dont login cause theres no grandtotal rank and ffr has it :P.
              As the lead game designer and the person who insisted strongly on this decision, I want explain why I don't this particular statistic visible to the public.

              Games are addictive and drive people to return because of the rewards players feel when playing the game and the goals they are aiming for. A high rank in grand total indicates primarily one particular factor: time spent on the game. It is an irrelevant mechanic that artificially attaches people to the game, similar to the achievement lists for a lot of games on Steam. I don't want people striving for this kind of goal. KBO is a game that is very particular about the way it is designed and structured, and I want people to enjoy and pay attention to that without distracting goals that don't contribute to the game itself. I want the reward to be the enjoyment one feels in the connection between the game and the music, not an artificial title such as "grand total."
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              • darkshark
                Nothing.
                • Nov 2004
                • 4189

                #37
                Re: KeyBeatOnline.com

                Yeah we need to talk to you about that. Rofl.

                Actually I thought we did talk to you about that. The game needs as many player perks as it can get...grand total included.

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                • icontrolyourworld
                  Enjoy life!
                  FFR Simfile Author
                  • Oct 2007
                  • 4196

                  #38
                  Re: KeyBeatOnline.com

                  Originally posted by zolaric
                  postwhore wars !!
                  zomg good times xD

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                  • All_That_Chaz
                    Supreme Dictator For Life
                    • Apr 2004
                    • 5874

                    #39
                    Re: KeyBeatOnline.com

                    Having all the dumb stats you can think of is what drives a competitive gaming atmosphere. You want people to feel accomplished regardless of what they actually did. If the problem is a stagnant community, you want to bring as many people in as you can. Therefore, you want to appeal to all different kinds of people. Ergo, put the silly grand total score in the game and you'll get more players.
                    Back to "Back to Earth"
                    Originally posted by FoJaR
                    dammit chaz
                    Originally posted by FoJaR
                    god dammit chaz
                    Originally posted by MalReynolds
                    I bet when you live in a glass house, the temptation to throw stones is magnified strictly because you're not supposed to.

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                    • zolaric
                      FFR Veteran
                      • Jul 2009
                      • 250

                      #40
                      Re: KeyBeatOnline.com

                      Originally posted by All_That_Chaz
                      Having all the dumb stats you can think of is what drives a competitive gaming atmosphere. You want people to feel accomplished regardless of what they actually did. If the problem is a stagnant community, you want to bring as many people in as you can. Therefore, you want to appeal to all different kinds of people. Ergo, put the silly grand total score in the game and you'll get more players.
                      Yes, we really need as many "pointless" rankings as possible. Even though I know what they do (make me want to play), I still fall for them.

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                      • Secks69
                        Banned
                        • May 2011
                        • 445

                        #41
                        Re: KeyBeatOnline.com

                        KBO's like the shitstain of rhythm gaming

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                        • All_That_Chaz
                          Supreme Dictator For Life
                          • Apr 2004
                          • 5874

                          #42
                          Re: KeyBeatOnline.com

                          Originally posted by zolaric
                          Yes, we really need as many "pointless" rankings as possible. Even though I know what they do (make me want to play), I still fall for them.
                          I never called them pointless. I called them dumb and silly =p.
                          Back to "Back to Earth"
                          Originally posted by FoJaR
                          dammit chaz
                          Originally posted by FoJaR
                          god dammit chaz
                          Originally posted by MalReynolds
                          I bet when you live in a glass house, the temptation to throw stones is magnified strictly because you're not supposed to.

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                          • stargroup100
                            behanjc & me are <3'ers
                            FFR Simfile Author
                            FFR Music Producer
                            • Jul 2006
                            • 2051

                            #43
                            Re: KeyBeatOnline.com

                            Originally posted by darkshark
                            Yeah we need to talk to you about that. Rofl.

                            Actually I thought we did talk to you about that. The game needs as many player perks as it can get...grand total included.
                            I'm literally almost online all day on MSN, but every time I nudge you, you never reply back.

                            I'm standing by my position of not adding in statistics/goals/mechanics such as grand total.

                            I believe there are other ways of getting more players without having to stoop that low, such as achievements (that are meaningful, such as getting a certain rank on a set). I am also not opposed to a statistic such as "ranked total for the week," because at least that is temporary.
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                            • Secks69
                              Banned
                              • May 2011
                              • 445

                              #44
                              Re: KeyBeatOnline.com

                              so stubborn

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                              • stargroup100
                                behanjc & me are <3'ers
                                FFR Simfile Author
                                FFR Music Producer
                                • Jul 2006
                                • 2051

                                #45
                                Re: KeyBeatOnline.com

                                Originally posted by Secks69
                                so stubborn
                                When you're the lead of a project (or part of it, in this case), you have to have a clear goal and concept in mind. Whatever happens, you have to make sure you stick to it.

                                I can't possibly make everyone happy, and it's not realistic to listen to every suggestion that's been given to me. I know exactly what I want to see for Keybeat, so I'll accept suggestions that fit into what I want to see, but I'm not going to change my concepts and vision simply because a handful of people said so.

                                Stubborn I might be, but stubborn I must.
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