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  • MrRubix
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    • Jul 2026
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    #16
    Re: Should drugs be illegal?

    On the plus side, legalizing drugs would remove a lot of the premium that comes with harder-to-acquire items and allow it to be taxed and regulated. You'd probably see a lot fewer drug-transaction incidents (robbery/death/assault/etc). You don't exactly see people killing each other over a bottle of Tylenol when we can get it on the cheap at the local drugstore, now do we? Furthermore, fewer people in jail means less burden on taxpayers and fewer children suddenly forced to get by without parents (who would then be more likely to commit crimes).

    Sounds pretty good, but the problem with harmful drugs is that they're, well, harmful. Unlike with alcohol, it's pretty hard to define a "responsible heroin user" when such a drug really screws you up and creates a physical addiction that is painful to break. What good could come from legalizing something like that? Simple law of supply and demand: Make something cheaper, and more people will buy it. If you legalize drugs, you're going to see more people using them. It doesn't exactly add much value to society.
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    • EnR
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      • Jul 2007
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      #17
      Re: Should drugs be illegal?

      They'd have to start making more laws about weed if they legalize it. Like no smokin and driving, no selling etc.

      If they just say, it's illegal, everything involving it is illegal and easier to control.
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      • Patashu
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        • Apr 2006
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        #18
        Re: Should drugs be illegal?

        even if you paid people to do heroin I doubt you'd get more than a certain percentage on it

        most of the harm from heroin is the crime people are forced to do to get more of it, anyway
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        • DossarLX ODI
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          • Mar 2008
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          #19
          Re: Should drugs be illegal?

          Originally posted by MrRubix
          On the plus side, legalizing drugs would remove a lot of the premium that comes with harder-to-acquire items and allow it to be taxed and regulated. You'd probably see a lot fewer drug-transaction incidents (robbery/death/assault/etc). You don't exactly see people killing each other over a bottle of Tylenol when we can get it on the cheap at the local drugstore, now do we? Furthermore, fewer people in jail means less burden on taxpayers and fewer children suddenly forced to get by without parents (who would then be more likely to commit crimes).

          Sounds pretty good, but the problem with harmful drugs is that they're, well, harmful. Unlike with alcohol, it's pretty hard to define a "responsible heroin user" when such a drug really screws you up and creates a physical addiction that is painful to break. What good could come from legalizing something like that? Simple law of supply and demand: Make something cheaper, and more people will buy it. If you legalize drugs, you're going to see more people using them. It doesn't exactly add much value to society.
          I think this goes back to parental influence. Honestly I think it would be much better if a parent just let his/her kid try out something if it's available (like trying a cigar or alcohol to get rid of curiosity) while they're with them so that way the kid won't overdo it. Abstinence isn't really the best thing to teach in my opinion.

          Input anyone?
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          • Vanilla Mnm
            cavs
            • Dec 2007
            • 3258

            #20
            Re: Should drugs be illegal?

            Originally posted by EnR
            They'd have to start making more laws about weed if they legalize it. Like no smokin and driving, no selling etc.

            If they just say, it's illegal, everything involving it is illegal and easier to control.
            Selling is already illegal. And they could just make one law saying you can't do drugs outside of your house, or something along those lines.

            Or maybe put a limit on every drug, the amount you can have possession of.


            EDIT: And Dossar, I agree. ;p

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            • EnR
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              • Jul 2007
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              #21
              Re: Should drugs be illegal?

              I wouldn't ever let my kids smoke cigarettes or do drugs. I have friends who smoke weed all the time and it's amazing how ****ing dumb they've become. I can't even have a god damn decent conversation with them. People who do drugs are annoying as ****. Besides where would all these tv shows and movies go if drugs were legal?
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              • MrRubix
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                • Jul 2026
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                #22
                Re: Should drugs be illegal?

                Originally posted by DossarLX ODI
                I think this goes back to parental influence. Honestly I think it would be much better if a parent just let his/her kid try out something if it's available (like trying a cigar or alcohol to get rid of curiosity) while they're with them so that way the kid won't overdo it. Abstinence isn't really the best thing to teach in my opinion.

                Input anyone?
                Abstinence is often a completely awful approach to things... the better approach, as we've seen empirically, is education. If you're going to have sex, at least be safe by doing such and such. If you're going to drink alcohol, at least be safe by doing such and such.

                The problem is that there's no safe "such and such" to apply to certain hard drugs. Some drugs just cause extreme damage and are really hard to justify in terms of legalization.
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                • Patashu
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                  • Apr 2006
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                  #23
                  Re: Should drugs be illegal?

                  Originally posted by EnR
                  I wouldn't ever let my kids smoke cigarettes or do drugs. I have friends who smoke weed all the time and it's amazing how ****ing dumb they've become. I can't even have a god damn decent conversation with them. People who do drugs are annoying as ****. Besides where would all these tv shows and movies go if drugs were legal?
                  Ah, but here's the crux of the issue - making marijuana illegal doesn't stop people from smoking marijuana, and now illegal, unregulated people are getting the money, not regulated, legalized businesses.

                  All other things being equal, wouldn't it be better if it were legalized?
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                  • DossarLX ODI
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                    • Mar 2008
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                    #24
                    Re: Should drugs be illegal?

                    So rather than let the kid try out the stuff by himself/herself, why not let the parent give him/her a try so he/she is unable to use it in excess with the parent's company? I personally just want to try a cigar so I can say how much it sucks, but it's not worth the trouble - my parents have let me taste wines and beer (alcohol), and I didn't really like it. But they were there to tell me to stop if I was starting to overdo it (not that I'd become addicted anyways but still, you get my point).
                    Originally posted by hi19hi19
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                    • EnR
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                      • Jul 2007
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                      #25
                      Re: Should drugs be illegal?

                      Originally posted by Patashu
                      Ah, but here's the crux of the issue - making marijuana illegal doesn't stop people from smoking marijuana, and now illegal, unregulated people are getting the money, not regulated, legalized businesses.

                      All other things being equal, wouldn't it be better if it were legalized?
                      Yes but if it was legal, the people who are scared to do it because it's illegal will end up doing it.
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                      • Vanilla Mnm
                        cavs
                        • Dec 2007
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                        #26
                        Re: Should drugs be illegal?

                        Originally posted by EnR
                        Yes but if it was legal, the people who are scared to do it because it's illegal will end up doing it.
                        I don't know anybody that won't smoke weed because it's illegal. Maybe it's just the people I know, lol, but I know if someone truly wants to, they're not going to let it being illegal get in the way.

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                        • EnR
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                          • Jul 2007
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                          #27
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                          Originally posted by Vanilla Mnm
                          I don't know anybody that won't smoke weed because it's illegal. Maybe it's just the people I know, lol, but I know if someone truly wants to, they're not going to let it being illegal get in the way.
                          My friend smokes weed but he'll never go home after doing it because he's ****ing terrified his parents know. Some people are just dowjn right stupid and want to do it with their friends to fit in.

                          The best part is when people ask me if I want to try it and I say no they go "Good man, don't try this ****", it makes me laugh because it's happened more than once.
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                          • Superfreak04
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                            • Jan 2007
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                            #28
                            Re: Should drugs be illegal?

                            Originally posted by Vanilla Mnm
                            I don't know anybody that won't smoke weed because it's illegal. Maybe it's just the people I know, lol, but I know if someone truly wants to, they're not going to let it being illegal get in the way.
                            I don't smoke weed because it's illegal, so now you know someone. And I don't really like smoking in general anyways, been around it all my life, I'm sick of it.

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                            • EnR
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                              #29
                              Re: Should drugs be illegal?

                              My brother comes home every day after school, he usually skips school and comes and has bong sessions on the deck with his 20 year old buddies(my bro is 16) and if my mom finds out she doesn't do ****, my bro will talk to her about weed and just the other day my dad found a joint in the back seat of her brand new car, which means she let him smoke a joint in the car. My mom won't do **** about it and I think that's wrong. Parents shouldn't let their kids ruin their lives.
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                              • who_cares973
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                                • Aug 2006
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                                #30
                                Re: Should drugs be illegal?

                                my mom let me try beer when i was a kid. now i have a beer with every meal and in between every meal

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