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Old 07-15-2009, 02:53 AM   #44
richhhhhard
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Default Re: 1 + 1 = Invalid: cannot add distinct objects

NFD, you really haven't presented any kind of argument other than saying that everything he is saying is wrong. Any specific reasons why you think that?

To Reach and VulcanRevenge, sorry if my argument was not on target with the original post, I was mainly commenting on "Uncertainty is everywhere. However, it isn't something to get depressed about, it's only something to realize and accept."

I saw that as relating to the rest of the argument. If you are talking about right now, for us, I would agree. I do not think it is something you have to accept though, the reason we have made the scientific advances we have is because of people that did not accept that everything was uncertain. If you are depressed about the uncertainty in the world then go out and try to find the answers.

On another note,

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Originally Posted by Reach View Post

I agree, the universal is causal in nature, based on a set of reactions that abide by the physical laws that founded it. There's still uncertainty for every observer in the universe, though, as this uncertainty is built right into those very laws that link the universe causally (See quantum mechanics, e.g. heisenberg uncertainty).
What you are saying is that we perceive uncertainty. Heisenbergs uncertainty principle does not prove that there is uncertainty in the universe, just that we cannot measure two things at the same time. Also, quantum mechanics is still relatively new. All forms of science are relatively new if you think about it. Considering how much we have learned in the last couple of centuries, consider what we will know in a few more. Obviously we can never understand everything, that would be a paradox, but I think it would be really interesting to see how people view the universe in a few more centuries.
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