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Old 08-22-2007, 12:48 AM   #2
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Default Re: Southeast/Southwest United States problems, illegal immigrants.

I'm having trouble comprehending that post. So basically what you're saying is this:

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Originally Posted by My interpretation of OP
There's been a problem recently in the Southeastern and Southwestern states involving immigrants illegally crossing the border in order to come into America. Being only 13, it really doesn't affect me, but does affect adults looking for jobs in the region. The border patrol does occasionally miss illegal immigrants entering the country.

Entering the US illegally tarnishes the name of your country. When you enter the US, the first thing you will do is look for a job, and business owners recognize that because of that, you will work for a much lower wage than a registered American citizen. Thus, you are more likely to be hired than the American. Also, as more illegals enter the country, demand for all products will increase, resulting in higher prices across the board.

I think becoming an American citizen should be easier, either by offering sweepstakes or by offering a citizen sign-up process, although some countries would not allow this. This, along with the hope for a better life, is a reason for illegal immigration. Some are trying to escape governmental or religious turmoil within their country.
I'm going to assume that's more or less what you mean, and respond based on that interpretation.

Okay, so first, the illegal immigration problem has been going on for quite a while. Decades, actually. People are still arguing over what to do about it, and here's the general rundown of the argument.

One side of the argument takes on the "crackdown" approach. They believe that illegal immigrants should be deported, because they've broken the law in attempting to enter America. They need to go back and do it the right way. Some justifications for this include the following.

First, illegal immigrants do not pay taxes. They are not on record as existing within the country, therefore they use the resources the country produces without paying taxes. Second, because they are not citizens, they are not subject to minimum wage. They can be hired for pay far below minimum wage, and because of this, they shut many legal citizens out of a job. Finally, there's the "literal" reason: they broke the law, so they must be punished for breaking it.

Solutions to the problem offered by this side generally include a crackdown on illegal immigrants, increase of border security to prevent illegal immigration, and even a wall separating us from Mexico.

The people on this side of the argument are generally Republicans, but that isn't to say all Republicans are, or that no Democrats are.

The other side is the "forgiveness" side. These people believe that since the illegal immigrants are coming to America for a better life, the spirit of America dictates that we should take them in. The people on this side believe that taking in all those who come, legally or otherwise, falls in line with the original ideals of the American founders, and thus should be done. Some justifications given on this side include the following.

First, since these immigrants are looking for a better life, and America was founded on the principles of giving a better, free life to all within its borders, it's our duty as Americans to take them in. They've worked hard to reach the country safely, so they will obviously follow the law and pay taxes and such. Second, if we deport these people, they face extreme persecution and possibly worse in their home country. Sending them home would be sending them to their deaths. There are other arguments, but I can't seem to remember them at this time.

Solutions offered by this side generally include amnesty for the illegals, as well as government aid, and a way to attempt to make legal immigration easier.

This group generally consists of Democrats, but like with the other group, by no means does the group consist entirely of Democrats, nor is every Democrat part of this group.

Personally, I'm more on the "crackdown" side than the "forgiveness" side. These people broke the law to enter the country, so why should we treat them better than any other criminal? If they wanted to enter the country so bad, then they should have done it the legal way. Get a visa, apply for citizenship in America, meet the requirements, legal citizen.

Granted, it's sometimes impossible or otherwise exceedingly difficult to be able to apply for citizenship, due to social status or other pressure. For this reason, the citizenship and visa application processes need to be made more simple. It's obvious that Mexico is the largest supplier of illegal immigrants to America, and I'm sure they know that, too. I'll find a source for this if you like, but if you can just trust me then it's unnecessary.

Anyway, perhaps some deal should be struck with Mexico to help the country make the citizenship process easier. For instance, have it help organize all those interested in a visa or citizenship application and join with the US to help teach the requirements for citizenship, explore possible assistance or alternatives (which would be less painful and complex than attempting to become a US citizen), and the like.

Oh, and I support the dividing wall, too.
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