[devonin]

Originally Posted by hayatewillown

First of all. Yes. It is defending itself. Unless you have had actual experience out in the field, your data, given by the community and media, is invalid. The community is not always right, and hell, definitely not the media.

I'll agree to stop stating opinions of the United States wartime efforts on these grounds provided that you promise to never, ever, under any circumstances state an opinion on anything about which you do not have immidiate and personal first-hand experience. That means no comments amount music you can't also play, movies you can't also star in, write and direct, art you can't make. Also, please do not state any opinions about things that can fly, lay eggs, are transparent, or have anything to do, ever, with countries you have not personally visited within the last 6 months. Hopefully you can see how arrogant and absurd your claim that nobody is ever allowed to talk about things they aren't experiencing first hand is.

If we stop attacking, then other countries will find out that we are being little wimps, and attack us, even if we are interfering with a "holy war".

Eh-Hem...what did you just tell me to do? You aren't allowed to state opinions about how terrorist groups will react to things unless you are a terrorist. Are you a terrorist? If you are, I guess you're allowed to have an opinion about how terrorists will react to things.

It is defending itself. Just because you have a "smart" choice of words, doesn't mean that you are smart, or that it still makes sense.

This is very true. I haven't once held someone's incredibly stupid way of saying things against them, if what they said had any kind of merit.

How the hell would a terrorist group attack evil people? Could you please be more freaking specific? You mean to them, we are being infidels, right? And that term, the way they use it, is anyone that does not believe what they believe, and I right? So the terrorists that reside in Iraq, who were already involved in a "holy war", decide to attack us. Funny enough, the terrorists, who are based on Palestinians and Islams.

Um...Palestine is a geographical place, Islam is the proper name for a religion. Many Palestinians are not muslims, many muslims are not Palestinians. Please stop confusing types of thing by grouping them together nonsensically.

Imagine that. Underline Palestinians for me please, when you reply with a good answer. Anyways, the Palestinians are basically the "bad guys", and the Israelites are the "good guys". This is because the Palestinians and the Muslims were mostly terrorist groups, and the Palestinians are destined to fight over the land.

Please do some basic research on the creation of the nation of Israel in the aftermath of the second world war, and the way that Israel has been actively encouraged by the United States, who supported them directly with arms and training, to launch unprovoked attacks on other nations that had been supported, with arms and training, by the Soviet Union to serve as proxies for the cold war. There is -just as much- of an argument for the extent to which Israel is the "bad guy" in that particular conflict, which has a) nothing to do with anti-american terrorists b) nothing o do with Iraq and c) nothing to do with the discussion at hand.

This is why we are on the Israelites side, and why we are sending our troops to war. Including the fact that we were BOMBED!

Hundreds of people died! Do you know what thats called? MASS GRAVES!

When was America bombed? You had some planes crashed into some buildings, with a death toll that equals roughly the number of children in the world who starve to death in an hour, while America spends enough money to feed each and every one of them for a year, in about 1 month, to fund efforts that kill more civilians, destroy more civilian property and generally make the problems you are purporting to solve much worse.

Quit thinking that " That was you know, a few years ago! " . Too bad. We get bombed, America needs to get it's ass in gear and kill some freaking terrorists.

Right...the Saudi and Egyptian terrorists...maybe ifyou did something about the countries the terrorists came from, you could claim to be doing something about the attacks.

Since the terrorist groups resided in Iraq, who also belonged to the Palestinians, and since the Israelites are our friend, we are helping the Israelites. We are also eliminating the terrorists.

The terrorists were from Egypt and Saudi Arabia, not Iraq. The American government claimed that the governments of Afghanistan and Iraq were -actively- protecting members of Al-Qaeda, though both governments (rightly) insisted that the United States had but to actually prove such people were present in their countries and they would be happy to assist in bringing them to justice, but were not willing to spend their own money and manpower to scour the countryside simply because the US -figured- that's where they were.

Also...how is invading Iraq, toppling its leader, doing nothing but encourage -more- terrorists and anti-American sentiment, and slowly reducing the cradle of civilization to rubble helping Israel?! Israel's problems have not one damn thing to do with Iraq.

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Quit posting your crappy reasons for pulling out or to help fight in the war! I doubt It would work!

Um...this is the Critical Thinking forum, for discussion and debate. Are you seriously going to come into a discussion forum, make grandiose and unsupported claims, and then -tell- someone else that they aren't -allowed- to continue to discuss? What right do -you- have to dictate a damn thing to anyone about what they can or cannot say in this forum?