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Old 05-1-2007, 02:20 PM   #322
devonin
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Default Re: Homosexual Marriage

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This effectively ends the argument.
Well...it ends the argument for people who agree that religion has no place in legal matters, which is not everyone. And it ends the argument for people who agree that the government has no place in religious matters which is also not everyone.

Further, people could still object on the grounds that legal marriage ought -also- to be between a man and a woman based on mistaken views of homosexuality and how it operates, and may be concluding that people are trying to cheat the system or at least, would be more encouraged to try and cheat the system.

For sufficient advantages and tax breaks and other benefits, I could absolutely see single people who have close friends of the same gender "Getting married" to share in all the benefits while having no actual intention or desire to be married to that person. I mean...such happens already, but you'd be making it dramatically easier.

Bear in mind, I utterly agree with you, but since the people objecting to this stance have been...less than effective in phrasing arguments in a compelling way, I figured I'd play a little Devil's Advocate for you.

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Why should government have any say in marriage at all?
Because the government gives benefits to -legally- married couples, and thus ought to have a say in what does or does not count as married for the purposes of their benefits. Legal marriage is a government-created institution, so it has control over that institution.

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