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Forum: Critical Thinking 02-21-2008, 11:53 PM
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Posted By TheWired724
Re: Absolute Truth?

So would you say there are not any absolutes?
Forum: Critical Thinking 02-21-2008, 11:05 PM
Replies: 51
Views: 3,323
Posted By TheWired724
Re: Absolute Truth?

I believe there are absolutes. Without absolutes there is nothing, including man and morals, that has meaning.
Forum: Critical Thinking 03-7-2007, 05:17 PM
Replies: 69
Views: 3,112
Posted By TheWired724
Re: Islam and terrorism

Don't mean to make useless comments...but has my thread died? Or what?
Forum: Critical Thinking 03-1-2007, 05:56 PM
Replies: 69
Views: 3,112
Posted By TheWired724
Re: Islam and terrorism

This statement shows me you haven't read anything i've said. I stated in another post that my opinions are mostly derived from what Islamic text states. And i've also explained why there are so many...
Forum: Critical Thinking 02-27-2007, 05:43 PM
Replies: 69
Views: 3,112
Posted By TheWired724
Re: Islam and terrorism

I agree with you on Christianity. As a being existing beyond the dimension of time, Yahweh can see what our futures will be and he'll see if we ultimately go to heaven or hell, but he does not...
Forum: Critical Thinking 02-27-2007, 04:08 PM
Replies: 69
Views: 3,112
Posted By TheWired724
Re: Islam and terrorism

You're looking at it wrong. Islam's goal is not to necessarily convert, but to rid the world of infidels. according to Islamic theology Allah has already predestined whether someone will go to hell...
Forum: Critical Thinking 02-27-2007, 12:08 PM
Replies: 69
Views: 3,112
Posted By TheWired724
Re: Islam and terrorism

The earliest Qur'an manuscript existing came from either the late 7th century or the 8th century. Up until then it was oral recitation. Try passing a message with complete accuracy through the course...
Forum: Critical Thinking 02-27-2007, 11:18 AM
Replies: 69
Views: 3,112
Posted By TheWired724
Re: Islam and terrorism

Are you really this naive? You never did answer my question: have you ever read either the Qur'an or Bible? Yes, i'm aware the God of the Qur'an claims to be that of the Bible. But a little reading...
Forum: Critical Thinking 02-25-2007, 06:08 PM
Replies: 69
Views: 3,112
Posted By TheWired724
Re: Islam and terrorism

Yusuf Ali





What's your point? I already know Allah's beginnings.
Forum: Critical Thinking 02-24-2007, 07:19 PM
Replies: 69
Views: 3,112
Posted By TheWired724
Re: Islam and terrorism

Allah is not the God of the Bible, a simple comparison would show that. And although Moses and Jesus are mentioned as prophets in the Qur'an, their stories usually twisted and distorted from the...
Forum: Critical Thinking 02-24-2007, 06:55 PM
Replies: 69
Views: 3,112
Posted By TheWired724
Re: Islam and terrorism

Those two verses i quoted, i'll explained the context. ''Then fight and slay the Pagans wherever ye find them, an seize them, beleaguer them, and lie in wait for them in every stratagem (of war)''...
Forum: Critical Thinking 02-24-2007, 06:46 PM
Replies: 69
Views: 3,112
Posted By TheWired724
Re: Islam and terrorism

So the plethora of passages in the Qur'an that advocate violence against non-Muslims aren't even remotely responsible for today's chaos? Those passages i quoted have nothing to do with it?
Forum: Critical Thinking 02-24-2007, 06:44 PM
Replies: 69
Views: 3,112
Posted By TheWired724
Re: Islam and terrorism

I'm sorry, but you missed my point. It wasn't the fact that the Qur'an wasn't canonized until 200 after Muhamamd's death. It was that in those 200 years the Qur'an was oral recitation only existing...
Forum: Critical Thinking 02-24-2007, 01:13 PM
Replies: 69
Views: 3,112
Posted By TheWired724
Re: Islam and terrorism

Sorry, sorry...didn't think it was a big deal.



I know that, and you know that. But a devoted Muslim really believes the Qur'an is the perfect word of God. This is why some follow it so...
Forum: Critical Thinking 02-24-2007, 12:48 PM
Replies: 69
Views: 3,112
Posted By TheWired724
Re: Islam and terrorism

Well of course..if you took them out of context. But in context, this is not the case. The Qur'an has many open ended verses, the Bible does not.
Forum: Critical Thinking 02-24-2007, 12:29 PM
Replies: 69
Views: 3,112
Posted By TheWired724
Re: Islam and terrorism

I suppose a more accurate charge would have been ''Islam inspires hostility torward those who reject it.'' Terrorism is a tactic, so of course it is not necessarly a Islamic method.




Yeah,...
Forum: Critical Thinking 02-24-2007, 12:15 PM
Replies: 69
Views: 3,112
Posted By TheWired724
Re: Islam and terrorism

I just woke up, so please forgive me if i miss your point.

Isn't this just confirming what i said? The Qur'an is relient on the Hadith? Sorry, i'm a bit slow right now.
Forum: Critical Thinking 02-24-2007, 12:19 AM
Replies: 69
Views: 3,112
Posted By TheWired724
Re: Islam and terrorism

Well yes, especially with a book like the Qur'an(a book with no context or chronology). One could come to any conclusion if they only relied on the Qur'an. However, when one includes the Hadith, the...
Forum: Critical Thinking 02-24-2007, 12:16 AM
Replies: 69
Views: 3,112
Posted By TheWired724
Re: Islam and terrorism

There is a way to help Muslims intepret the Qur'an, it's abrogation. if two passages contradict each other, the newest of the passages is the one Muslims are to abide by. It's actually pretty simple....
Forum: Critical Thinking 02-24-2007, 12:10 AM
Replies: 69
Views: 3,112
Posted By TheWired724
Re: Islam and terrorism

Are you suggesting that i took Qur'an 9:5 and 29 out of context?
Forum: Critical Thinking 02-23-2007, 09:10 PM
Replies: 69
Views: 3,112
Posted By TheWired724
Re: Islam and terrorism

And i guarantee Dr. Z doesn't know what he's talking about. I have read the Qur'an, but that's not sufficient. The Qur'an is jibberish as it lacks both context and chronology. This is why one also...
Forum: Critical Thinking 02-23-2007, 08:46 PM
Replies: 69
Views: 3,112
Posted By TheWired724
Re: Islam and terrorism

Ok, evidence.....well i already know what the response will be.

I'm sure you guys are familiar with Qur'an 9:5 ''But when the forbidden months are past, then fight and slay the Pagans wherever ye...
Forum: Critical Thinking 02-23-2007, 05:43 PM
Replies: 69
Views: 3,112
Posted By TheWired724
Re: Islam and terrorism

Islam, as taught by the Qur'an, is not a religion of peace. Most Muslims, from my experiences, aren't fully aware ofwhat their scriptures say. They most likely go on what their told by local clerics,...
Forum: Critical Thinking 02-23-2007, 05:38 PM
Replies: 69
Views: 3,112
Posted By TheWired724
Re: Islam and terrorism

Well i guess this is one way to show your opinion. Bin Laden can justify his acts by correctly quoting Islamic scripture. Those of the Crusades could not. The Catholic church at the time was corrupt-...
Forum: Critical Thinking 02-23-2007, 05:14 PM
Replies: 69
Views: 3,112
Posted By TheWired724
Re: Islam and terrorism

Alright. I wanted to read what other people thought first, but whatever. To put it bluntly, i believe Islam inspires terrorism. I believe the people who perpetrated 9/11 were not fanatics, but...
Forum: Critical Thinking 02-23-2007, 05:04 PM
Replies: 69
Views: 3,112
Posted By TheWired724
Re: Islam and terrorism

You mean my motive for creating this thread? Or my stance on the subject at hand?
Forum: Critical Thinking 02-23-2007, 05:00 PM
Replies: 69
Views: 3,112
Posted By TheWired724
Islam and terrorism

I've noticed religious threads are discouraged around here. However i'm very curious about what the consensus is about Islam and violence. I'll do my best to support any claims i make, but first i...
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