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Forum: Brag Board 08-26-2021, 11:27 AM
Replies: 30
Views: 4,351
Posted By xXOpkillerXx
Re: Judge 6 and 7 scores!

So a Justice AAAAA would be all notes within 2ms ?
Forum: FFR Events 08-24-2021, 07:44 PM
Replies: 161
Views: 10,385
Posted By xXOpkillerXx
Re: [OT14 Event] Revenge of the Unsent

https://i.imgur.com/DqBdIBU.png
Forum: FFR Events 08-22-2021, 08:21 PM
Replies: 161
Views: 10,385
Posted By xXOpkillerXx
Forum: FFR Events 08-22-2021, 07:18 PM
Replies: 161
Views: 10,385
Posted By xXOpkillerXx
Re: [OT14 Event] Revenge of the Unsent

Can I have an extension please? Havent been able to play yet + I'm sick rn
Forum: FFR General Talk 08-17-2021, 08:50 PM
Replies: 31
Views: 1,142
Posted By xXOpkillerXx
Re: Definition of a FFR AA

I dont understand this opinion, but I can't argue it
Forum: FFR General Talk 08-17-2021, 10:18 AM
Replies: 31
Views: 1,142
Posted By xXOpkillerXx
Re: Definition of a FFR AA

Let me address a few points you make one by one. So this first statement implies that SDG and AA test the same thing, essentially. Otherwise if they didn't, it'd obviously make sense to have both.
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Forum: FFR General Talk 08-16-2021, 05:54 PM
Replies: 31
Views: 1,142
Posted By xXOpkillerXx
Re: Definition of a FFR AA

I personally dont find 80g on a 2k notes file to be necessarily out of a subjective "good enough" range.

I'd like to know how you measure optimality though; do you have anything to say about the...
Forum: FFR General Talk 08-16-2021, 05:14 PM
Replies: 31
Views: 1,142
Posted By xXOpkillerXx
Re: Definition of a FFR AA

I gave the idea some thoughts, and although I personally dont disagree with it entirely, lets focus on AA only for this thread. You know, if AA is ultimately deemed to be a bad thing to add, A will...
Forum: FFR General Talk 08-16-2021, 04:59 PM
Replies: 31
Views: 1,142
Posted By xXOpkillerXx
Re: Definition of a FFR AA

Yep, I'm aware of that :p

They were only part of the game engine and not tracked anywhere, so it seems very normal that it never was interesting enough for anyone to care about.

Reason why I...
Forum: FFR General Talk 08-16-2021, 04:37 PM
Replies: 47
Views: 1,568
Posted By xXOpkillerXx
Re: FC Stat bar - New Implementation

Again, it's fair to say that you find it meaningless. However there's no reason for the game to stay static regarding its optional content if others find interest in the changes. I'd even argue that...
Forum: FFR General Talk 08-16-2021, 04:24 PM
Replies: 31
Views: 1,142
Posted By xXOpkillerXx
Re: Definition of a FFR AA

You could also count your AAAs by going through the list in level ranks of your profile.

It's not -important-, it's a suggestion to implement a feature which may incentivize some people to work...
Forum: FFR General Talk 08-16-2021, 04:09 PM
Replies: 47
Views: 1,568
Posted By xXOpkillerXx
Re: FC Stat bar - New Implementation

Yep, I think there has not been a single opinion against SDG bar so far. Surely that would be the priority in all that's been discussed given the positive reaction for it.
Forum: FFR General Talk 08-16-2021, 03:58 PM
Replies: 31
Views: 1,142
Posted By xXOpkillerXx
Re: Definition of a FFR AA

Just like tokens, skill tokens, tier points, badges or any other secondary element of FFR that is not the main skill measure, AA would give another optional metric to track/work towards.
Forum: FFR General Talk 08-16-2021, 03:45 PM
Replies: 47
Views: 1,568
Posted By xXOpkillerXx
Re: FC Stat bar - New Implementation

It's as if you've never in your life seen someone enjoy a completely optional side quest or minigame of any game ever. Can't you let people have their own fun that doesn't 100% match yours ? Smh. Yes...
Forum: FFR General Talk 08-16-2021, 03:05 PM
Replies: 31
Views: 1,142
Posted By xXOpkillerXx
Re: Definition of a FFR AA

No it's not. It came from the FC discussion, but it's not related to FC at all.



If we start doing everything exactly like other games do, what's the point of being a different game ? Sure...
Forum: FFR General Talk 08-16-2021, 01:53 PM
Replies: 47
Views: 1,568
Posted By xXOpkillerXx
Re: FC Stat bar - New Implementation

Fwiw I'm 100% ok with removing FC's as a tracked metric. The point about the difficulty of its removal was mostly my quick thoughts, but if it turns out to be a simple thing then that just makes...
Forum: FFR General Talk 08-16-2021, 01:50 PM
Replies: 31
Views: 1,142
Posted By xXOpkillerXx
Re: Definition of a FFR AA

Yeah the flaws of our AAA system shouldnt be applied to this since it would purely be a rough measure of "did you get a somewhat decent score". It still suffers from the same-ish chart structure I...
Forum: FFR General Talk 08-16-2021, 01:35 PM
Replies: 31
Views: 1,142
Posted By xXOpkillerXx
Re: Definition of a FFR AA

My bad if the raw goods counts in my examples are wrong, typing quickly on phone.

The idea remains that the % for AA should be agreed on w.r.t. the average notecount to be as representative as...
Forum: FFR General Talk 08-16-2021, 11:42 AM
Replies: 31
Views: 1,142
Posted By xXOpkillerXx
Re: Definition of a FFR AA

Great, thanks for the info ! A more accurate estimate has been made at around 97%, considering an SDG on a 1500 notes chart is 99.333%. On that same notecount, a 97% would mean 90 raw goods, and on a...
Forum: FFR General Talk 08-16-2021, 10:58 AM
Replies: 31
Views: 1,142
Posted By xXOpkillerXx
Re: Definition of a FFR AA

Oh nice, can you please give some examples of those scores in here ? In fact, after some discussion on the % on discord, 90% definitely IS far too low for most charts. When I get access to my laptop...
Forum: FFR General Talk 08-16-2021, 10:51 AM
Replies: 31
Views: 1,142
Posted By xXOpkillerXx
Re: Definition of a FFR AA

Why an absolute raw good count vs a relative one though ? To me it seems like absolute count would simply be too similar to the other flags we use (Blackflag, Booflag, SDG), whereas a relative count...
Forum: FFR General Talk 08-16-2021, 10:33 AM
Replies: 47
Views: 1,568
Posted By xXOpkillerXx
Re: FC Stat bar - New Implementation

The argument of the "Progress Bars" isnt bad tbh. I would suggest you read my replies to OWA's posts, since they address this "skill measurement" side of it. That being said, when it comes to the...
Forum: FFR General Talk 08-16-2021, 10:23 AM
Replies: 31
Views: 1,142
Posted By xXOpkillerXx
Definition of a FFR AA

This is a continuation thread based on the feedback from the FC implementation thread (https://www.flashflashrevolution.com/vbz/showthread.php?p=4769988#post4769988). Please go read that thread to...
Forum: FFR General Talk 08-15-2021, 08:12 PM
Replies: 47
Views: 1,568
Posted By xXOpkillerXx
Re: FC Stat bar - New Implementation

Ok. There seems to be 2 main thought processes in here.

1. Relevance of secondary metrics regarding how we measure skill.

I can't emphasize enough the fact that it's perfectly fine for any game...
Forum: FFR General Talk 08-15-2021, 06:33 PM
Replies: 47
Views: 1,568
Posted By xXOpkillerXx
Re: FC Stat bar - New Implementation

There is a significant difference yes.
I can't argue that bold section; what you find meaningful in a game is purely subjective. Therefore for that same reason, if a non-negligible amount of players...
Forum: FFR General Talk 08-15-2021, 06:02 PM
Replies: 47
Views: 1,568
Posted By xXOpkillerXx
Re: FC Stat bar - New Implementation

Well there is no point to it in a context where FC should be some kind of performance metric. Currently, the main metric of skill FFR uses does not equate to any combo-related thing. Therefore, it...
Forum: FFR General Talk 08-15-2021, 05:30 PM
Replies: 47
Views: 1,568
Posted By xXOpkillerXx
Forum: FFR General Talk 08-15-2021, 05:25 PM
Replies: 47
Views: 1,568
Posted By xXOpkillerXx
Re: FC Stat bar - New Implementation

Correct me if I'm wrong, but basically what you want is not a FC metric anymore, it's a metric of "somewhat decent scores". You know what that sounds like ? AA in Stepmania/Etterna (93% score,...
Forum: FFR General Talk 08-15-2021, 04:47 PM
Replies: 47
Views: 1,568
Posted By xXOpkillerXx
Re: FC Stat bar - New Implementation

In this case I'd have to ask: Why do you believe an FC should be defined as not only what it literally means (Full Combo), but also as a "decent score" ? My quick guess would be "relevance of the...
Forum: FFR General Talk 08-15-2021, 04:11 PM
Replies: 47
Views: 1,568
Posted By xXOpkillerXx
Re: FC Stat bar - New Implementation

There has been arguments for enforcing a maximum amount of boos (absolute or relative) for an FC.

Your suggestion is that same argument except it's the specific case where the maximum absolute...
Forum: FFR General Talk 08-15-2021, 03:45 PM
Replies: 47
Views: 1,568
Posted By xXOpkillerXx
Re: FC Stat bar - New Implementation

I'm also looking to know, from people who want to keep FC bar, if an FC* (see definition in OP) should count towards that completion bar or not ?
Forum: FFR General Talk 08-15-2021, 02:53 PM
Replies: 47
Views: 1,568
Posted By xXOpkillerXx
Re: FC Stat bar - New Implementation

Introducing my own opinion right here: I would absolutely mash the full remaining FCs I'm missing to complete the FC bar. It's one secondary completion metric available on the site, and as a pretty...
Forum: FFR General Talk 08-15-2021, 02:49 PM
Replies: 47
Views: 1,568
Posted By xXOpkillerXx
Re: FC Stat bar - New Implementation

This is valid and a fair opinion.



This is objectively false however. A simple observation to prove that is taking any set of players below Division 8 (or level 101) approximately, and asking...
Forum: FFR General Talk 08-15-2021, 01:11 PM
Replies: 47
Views: 1,568
Posted By xXOpkillerXx
FC Stat bar - New Implementation

As you may or may not know, FFR's game client now has 2 different definitions of "FC" (Full Combo):

FC: Your current best score on the chart has 0 misses and all the notes were played;

FC*: At...
Forum: FFR Events 08-12-2021, 11:42 AM
Replies: 161
Views: 10,385
Posted By xXOpkillerXx
Re: [OT14 Event] Revenge of the Unsent

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Forum: FFR Events 08-10-2021, 08:40 PM
Replies: 161
Views: 10,385
Posted By xXOpkillerXx
Re: [OT14 Event] Revenge of the Unsent

Am I doing this correctly ?


https://i.imgur.com/zxWrG4m.png
Forum: FFR General Talk 07-22-2021, 10:54 AM
Replies: 144
Views: 12,206
Posted By xXOpkillerXx
Re: 14th Official Tournament Predictions Thread

Ignoring your model, who ends in #8 in D8 ? ;)
Forum: FFR General Talk 07-14-2021, 11:47 AM
Replies: 144
Views: 12,206
Posted By xXOpkillerXx
Re: 14th Official Tournament Predictions Thread

The fact that I'm considered as top 8 by your algorithm shows that there's missing data in D8 lmao
Forum: FFR General Talk 07-7-2021, 09:31 AM
Replies: 144
Views: 12,206
Posted By xXOpkillerXx
Re: 14th Official Tournament Predictions Thread

Holy hek wirry you put me as 8th in D8. That's so nice of you. Never happenin though xd
Forum: Birthdays 05-26-2021, 01:13 PM
Replies: 12
Views: 555
Posted By xXOpkillerXx
Re: hbd wirrywooyeahohyeah

Yo happy birthday wirry 🥳
I would make a post as long as our debate posts to celebrate, but you have better things to do on this day than reading that lmao~

Have a nice one!
Forum: Brag Board 05-26-2021, 07:32 AM
Replies: 9
Views: 785
Posted By xXOpkillerXx
Re: Fun little coding experiment with ratings

Everybody (at a given level) has the same sample of files to play. If we enforce a minimum of 50 or 100 files to be played, we greatly minimize bias. Granted, the very top players will have to...
Forum: FFR General Talk 05-24-2021, 07:09 PM
Replies: 22
Views: 2,406
Posted By xXOpkillerXx
Re: Poll: Which global skill rating system is best ?

@People who voted for unweigthed:

I personally conceded the debate to WirryWoo after some more discussion on discord today.

I invite you to take a look at the conversation that has been going...
Forum: FFR General Talk 05-24-2021, 08:11 AM
Replies: 22
Views: 2,406
Posted By xXOpkillerXx
Re: Poll: Which global skill rating system is best ?

I'd like to quickly entertain the idea that in a 2-metric system, something like a "linearly weighted top 10" (trying to keep it a low number to still represent peak performance) could be interesting...
Forum: FFR General Talk 05-24-2021, 07:55 AM
Replies: 22
Views: 2,406
Posted By xXOpkillerXx
Re: Poll: Which global skill rating system is best ?

Let me go through this point by point.

1. The definition of skill with examples



Sadly, this is all but true. I thought I made the example simple enough to be understood by everyone but I...
Forum: FFR General Talk 05-23-2021, 08:56 PM
Replies: 22
Views: 2,406
Posted By xXOpkillerXx
Re: Poll: Which global skill rating system is best ?

Not a bad take tbh. I'm not entirely sure yet what to think of it, but here's my quick thoughts.

A top X (in any system) should require significantly more scores than the current system in order...
Forum: FFR General Talk 05-23-2021, 06:13 PM
Replies: 22
Views: 2,406
Posted By xXOpkillerXx
Re: Poll: Which global skill rating system is best ?

Alright, I'll try and make a structured statement.

First of all, there is a concern that many people pointed out, which is that any system would have outliers. While that is true, not all outliers...
Forum: FFR General Talk 05-23-2021, 08:31 AM
Replies: 22
Views: 2,406
Posted By xXOpkillerXx
Re: Poll: Which global skill rating system is best ?

More arguments from the weighted side please
Forum: FFR General Talk 05-22-2021, 08:51 AM
Replies: 22
Views: 2,406
Posted By xXOpkillerXx
Question Poll: Which global skill rating system is best ?

Hello FFR. Give your thoughts. Votes without explanation dont help much, keep that in mind.

PS: The weighted average choice includes any weighting scheme you can think of.
Forum: Birthdays 05-7-2021, 09:02 AM
Replies: 13
Views: 1,057
Posted By xXOpkillerXx
Re: Bmah and OP

Thank you everyone ❤️
Forum: FFR General Talk 04-13-2021, 08:25 AM
Replies: 56
Views: 4,266
Posted By xXOpkillerXx
Re: FFR Caste/Tier List Part 1

someone make a ffr tier list video and become youtube famous
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