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Go_Oilers_Go 08-19-2008 05:08 PM

Are today's video games shaping tomorrow's leaders?
 
The debate over video games and whether they are good or bad has been raging ever since the creation of pong. However, most of the arguments presented are fairly short sighted and normally pertain to how the video game players will do in school. I'd like to look further into the future. Many of the most popular and addictive video games in society today involve fighting or violence to one extent or another. I believe that these violent video games are having a negative impact on the current generation that will soon lead the world. These violent video games are teaching the kids that violence is the resolution to one's problems, and they also increase aggression in children. When these children come to lead the world in years to come, I think that deep inside they will still hold the belief that violence can solve most of one's problems. Thus, the potential for wars or even more violent police forces could become a very real prospect in the near future.

Squeek 08-19-2008 05:21 PM

Re: Are today's video games shaping tomorrow's leaders?
 
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Originally Posted by Go_Oilers_Go (Post 2611974)
The debate over video games and whether they are good or bad has been raging ever since the creation of pong.

No, they haven't. The only possible argument against Pong is that your kids might watch more TV than they currently do. However, back then Pong was a family event. It wasn't just two kids staring at a television for hours on end.

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However, most of the arguments presented are fairly short sighted and normally pertain to how the video game players will do in school.
No, they aren't. Most of the arguments are about desensitizing youth.

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I'd like to look further into the future. Many of the most popular and addictive video games in society today involve fighting or violence to one extent or another. I believe that these violent video games are having a negative impact on the current generation that will soon lead the world.
You're entitled to your opinion, but professional studies prove otherwise. I'd suggest reading a few.

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These violent video games are teaching the kids that violence is the resolution to one's problems, and they also increase aggression in children.
I've read countless studies that prove otherwise. Cite your sources.

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When these children come to lead the world in years to come, I think that deep inside they will still hold the belief that violence can solve most of one's problems.
Nice to know you're not someone interested in leading the world with beliefs like that.

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Thus, the potential for wars or even more violent police forces could become a very real prospect in the near future.
Ever since the invention of the Playstation, youth violence has absolutely plummeted and continues to drop every year.



The moral of the story is not to believe everything the media tells you. It's usually not true.

rzr 08-19-2008 05:25 PM

Re: Are today's video games shaping tomorrow's leaders?
 
I hope to god that the violence portrayed in today's video games isn't handed down to the world's future leaders.

I think it all comes down to the parents/guardians. If they can give their children the proper 'dosage' of video games, catastrophe could be avoided.

tsugomaru 08-19-2008 06:41 PM

Re: Are today's video games shaping tomorrow's leaders?
 
Games are a tool in teaching. You can learn a lot from the video games you play no matter what video game it is. In most fighting games, it teaches people to predict and respond to this or that attack. In most fighting games, the best time to respond is right after the enemy makes an attack because it takes some time for the enemy to follow through with his attack. You must also learn to time your moves, blocks, and dodges correctly.

While you may be correct that games have some kind of negative influence (although there's completely no way to prove it), video games are not the sole contributor to the way kids will behave. Society and the way it treats the kid will have a larger impact on them than any video game could. If a child was beaten everyday by his parents and played Mortal Kombat every now and then, if he murders someone one day, which will be blamed?

However, I do believe that video games are shaping the minds of our future because undoubtedly, they will. Heck, it's not just video games, it's all the media around us. Movies, books, comics, and even friends will have an impact when shaping a person.

Also rzr, video games isn't the magical cure for violence and crime. It's just that crime rates have gone down in the past years. Just because video games exist during the same time the decrease happened doesn't mean it's the cause of it. You can't say there's a relation between global temperatures and number of sailing pirates just because global temperatures have been going up while number of pirates have been going down. You have to conduct a way more complex test to prove there's a relation.

~Tsugomaru

Squeek 08-19-2008 07:45 PM

Re: Are today's video games shaping tomorrow's leaders?
 
Actually, I was the one who said that. Not rzr.

I said it because people claim video games are making for a more violent and dangerous youth (people like the OP). And no study out there proves this claim. It's funny because our youth is the least violent our country has seen in decades, but sensationalist media showcases things like school shootings and whatnot which just makes it seem like it's happening all the time.

tsugomaru 08-19-2008 07:58 PM

Re: Are today's video games shaping tomorrow's leaders?
 
It's only because they can't make money off a story about kids being good and not doing drugs.

~Tsugomaru

Xx{Midday}xX 08-19-2008 08:29 PM

Re: Are today's video games shaping tomorrow's leaders?
 
I learned Japanese from videogames.

Surely, there are negatives to videogames. The worst I've seen are game brain syndrome (Japanese=ゲーム脳=the repetition of playing certain videogames over and over again causes the brain to devolve. Such as playing the same Mario stage over and over for 8+ hours.). There is also the game otakus who waste their life on videogames as if they were a form of drug (People who leech off the house finance and stay in their houses all day).

But, all-in-all, what Squeek said. Although people who play videogames will most definitely be affected by them in one way or another, videogames are not strong enough to have a forceful impact such as influencing the start of violent/aggressive thinking in politics.

Mario Bros. 08-19-2008 09:07 PM

Re: Are today's video games shaping tomorrow's leaders?
 
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Originally Posted by Go_Oilers_Go (Post 2611974)
The debate over video games and whether they are good or bad has been raging ever since the creation of pong. However, most of the arguments presented are fairly short sighted and normally pertain to how the video game players will do in school. I'd like to look further into the future. Many of the most popular and addictive video games in society today involve fighting or violence to one extent or another. I believe that these violent video games are having a negative impact on the current generation that will soon lead the world. These violent video games are teaching the kids that violence is the resolution to one's problems, and they also increase aggression in children. When these children come to lead the world in years to come, I think that deep inside they will still hold the belief that violence can solve most of one's problems. Thus, the potential for wars or even more violent police forces could become a very real prospect in the near future.


For some reason I dont fine much fun in war or violent games or movies but I see a lot of people who like Medal of Honor and Call of Duty etc. I think acceptable games are sports related games like Sonic and Mario at the Olympic Games on the Wii or Wii Fit.

tsugomaru 08-19-2008 09:46 PM

That's just your opinion on games. Everyone has their own opinion on games and some people do like shooting games.

The "Wii Fit" is not a separate video game console. The thing about video games is that there's this thing called "age appropriateness". A game like the one you mentioned is intended for a younger audience and they should be allowed to play games like it. However, shooting and more mature games are intended for older audiences who aren't as impressionable as younger kids. Video game developers are continuously trying to add some meaning to games that makes players think about the story of the game. The same thing works for all types of media and isn't limited to games. We have movies for kids like the Land Before Time and then we have some of the more serious movies that discuss about issues such as race and murder. We have books for kids like Little Red Riding Hood and we have books meant for adults such as The Scarlet Letter.

~Tsugomaru

tha Guardians 08-19-2008 10:00 PM

Re: Are today's video games shaping tomorrow's leaders?
 
Every input we get affects what kind of person we will be, because we all react differently. There is no way you're looking at a 1000% crime rate or anything like that. I see politicians attacking video games just like how they attacked comics in the 40's. This is just nonsense. Don't waste your time posting this.

Ruritsu 08-19-2008 10:03 PM

Re: Are today's video games shaping tomorrow's leaders?
 
Oh yeah video games make hardened murderers...

Well I'm gonna go off and kill some people which I should be good at considering my love of games. I'll just pack up my plasma grenades and my chainsaw equipped rifle, then get used to the aim assist and be on my way ^_-

Seriously now...

Jokee 08-20-2008 04:44 PM

Re: Are today's video games shaping tomorrow's leaders?
 
I think video games are not a problem when parents first educate their children. That way they may part what's good and what's bad. Personnaly, I've played video games for all my life (although really feel like I wasted it) and violence doesn't affect me.


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Originally Posted by Go_Oilers_Go (Post 2611974)
These violent video games are teaching the kids that violence is the resolution to one's problems...

Even without video games, political leaders and even adults in general don't show the right way if you see what I mean :P


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