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devonin 04-20-2008 03:53 PM

Devonin's Critical Thinking Tourney Two - COMPLETED
 
Hello folks, it's time for another Devonin-brand Critical Thinking FFR Tournament. I've learned from some things in the last tourney that could have been done better, and we've seen some things everybody liked that really worked, so I'm hoping this will be a much better tournament than last time.

The format is going to be a little different this time. Instead of puzzles leading to songs with typical score-on-song ranking, the focus of this tournament will be on thinking critically about the best way to achieve a non-specific goal. You won't be told what songs to play or even how to play them. You'll have a goal to aim for (Something like..."The largest number of averages on one song") and it will be up to you to decide the best song to use, and the best way to achieve the stated goal.

Interspersed in the song rounds will be a number of puzzle rounds more similar to the style of question in my last tourney. I imagine I will have 2/1/2/1/2/1 song rounds/puzzle rounds, plus a round 10 grand finale. That means 6 song rounds, 3 puzzle rounds, and a final 10th round.

I'll post a round every two days, over 20 days, trying to push the post time ahead by about 2 hours each time to be fair to people outside my time zone (IE, one round at 4:00pm, the next round would be in 50 hours, at 6:00pm, then another 50 hours at 8:00pm, slowly working the post time around the clock)

Why would I need to worry about the time I posted my rounds? Well, like last time, any player can submit the answer to any round at any time from when it goes up until the end of the tournament, so time isn't a function there, but where time WILL factor in is a series of mental bonus rounds.

Most rounds will be accompanied by a smaller-scale mental challenge, either a small puzzle, or a task to be done via some sort of flash game online. There will be a flat bonus of points for completion at any time by anybody, but there will be a bonus given to the first three people to correctly submit the solution to the mental bonus, thus the desire to move the start time across the time zones.

So, to boil it down, what we're looking at is this:

10 rounds, 6 FFR-based, 3 Puzzle-based, 1 Grand finale. Most, all if I can manage it, rounds accompanied by a mental bonus with points for completion, and a bonus for speed.

Scoring will be in the Rubix/Tass style, the person in first for a given round will recieve 1000 points. Each place below that will score 90% of the points scored by the person ahead of them: 1000, 900, 810, 729, 656 etc.

Mental bonuses will usually be a flat 500 points, with a bonus probably 250/150/100 for the first three people to submit correct solutions.

Since the song rounds are designed to involve a reasonable amount of strategy, people who don't wish to give away how they are tackling the problem of the round are absolutely able to submit their entries via private message rather than posting them in the thread.

I'm going to post the first round of the tournament in three days on Wednesday, April 23rd at 4:00pm EST

Since anyone can submit rounds at any time, there is no need for a formal signup, but anybody who posts here that they want in will recieve a private message notification at the start of round 1 and 2.

Hopefully this works out to be an awesome and fun tournament that makes you really think.

Signups - The following people will recieve PM notification about the start of round 1 and 2
smartdude1212
dandandamdandan1111
pmonibuv1
SoultakerNFH
sullyman2007
|xDestinyx|
blackjack2300
sk8it
funmonkey54
Tasselfoot
rzr
susurrus
jonathanasdf
MrRubix
Jerry DB
rsr2
PlayTrumpet
sumzup
Mysticthehedgehog
emerald000
Zythus
Netjet!
darkness3608
kilik0dagawa
fractal_monkey
Tophius
Commandersa1
Infinity.
dooey100

Prizes - Current Prize Pot: 110,000 credits
Prizes will, like last time, try to cascade as far down the rankings as possible. I'll post a tentative payout here as I get a feel for how many people are going to be taking part. Donations are welcome.


Donators to the Prize pot:
Devonin - 100,000
Jerry DB - 10,000

devonin 04-20-2008 03:53 PM

Re: Devonin's Critical Thinking Tourney Part 2
 
Overall Standings

Code:

Total Obtainable Points Thus Far: 18650
Overall Standings    Total            Rounds Submitted    Bonuses Solved
Tasselfoot            16800            1234567890*          1*234567890
Fractal_Monkey        14539            1234567890*          1*2345678 0
Jonathanasdf          12265            123456789            1*2345678 0
Silvuh                12250            1234567890*          1*2345678
Smartdude1212        11080            12345  90          1*234567  0
EI_Tizzy              10004            12345 78            1*23 5678
MrRubix                6800            1234  7              1*234567
sc979                  6762            123  789            1 23      0
PlayTrumpet            6056            1234                1*23456
Ravia                  4737            1234                1*234
Emerald000            3544            1 3                  1*23
Commandersa1          2600              3                  1*23
jammer325              2489              3                  1*23
RubiedCross            2000            1                    1*2
EDEdDNEdDYFaN          1600            1                    1*
Jerry_DB              1530            12                    *
funmonkey54            1190            1                    1*
Tophius                987                4                  *2
darkness3608            829            1                    *
Dooey100                600                                  1*
sumzup                  600                                  1*


devonin 04-20-2008 03:54 PM

Re: Devonin's Critical Thinking Tourney Part 2
 
You have until 11:59pm EST on Thursday the 15th to submit scores

Prize Pot 260,000 (I know it should have been more, but I put in 100k, and credit bug recalculations dumped me down to like...much less than that, so this is basically Ledwix's 240, Jerry's 10 and 10 more of my own)

Code:

1  Tass tends to forgo credits
2  60,000
3  50,000
4  40,000
5  30,000
6  20,000
7  17,000
8  15,000
9  15,000
10 13,000

Obviously I'll recalculate in the event that someone pulls ahead of Tass, and I'll also recalculate based on other people who want to forfiet a credit prize.

Quote:

Round 10! -Monday May 12th, 10:00am EST
Part 1 Puzzles

There is a flat 200 points scored for each puzzle solved. Answers can be submitted via
Private message to me. Alternatively, if you've solved them all, you can include the
answers to all of the questions in Part 1 as your private message to solve Part 2
Code:

1. What is the missing letter in this grid? B, H, or J
        CUG
        FXD
        ?TJ

2. Determine what is being done with the 4 outer numbers to arrive
  at the inner number as a result in each example, once you've
  determined that, determine what number replaces the ? in the
  4th set of numbers

  6    7          5    6          5    8          3    7
    40              39              77              ??
  4    2          4    3          9    1          5    3

3. Find a 10-digit number, where the first figure defines the count
  of zeros in this number the second figure the count of numeral 1
  in this number etc. At the end the tenth numeral character expresses
  the count of the numeral 9 in this number. 

4. You have 55 coins totaling $10.00. There are more nickels than
  pennies, more dimes than nickels and more quarters than dimes.
  How many of each coin do you have?

5. A question about FFR is encoded here according to the mapping of
  letters on a telephone, decode and then answer the question:
  2=ABC, 3=DEF, 4=GHI, 5=JKL, 6=MNO, 7=PRS, 8=TUV, 9=WXY, 0=QZ
  As in, a '2' could be any of an A, B or C each time a 2 appears.

  43 968 8253 843 686237 63 3433428589 663 76647
  263 68584759 48 29 843 686237 63 75455 865367
  9428 36 968 438?

6. To find the keyword, fill in the blanks in words 1-10 with the correct
  missing letters.  Transfer those letters to the numbered squares. Careful
  this might not be as easy as it looks.
  1. _aste    6. gra_e
  2. no_se    7. fl_sh
  3. gues_    8. _each
  4. s_are    9. c_own
  5. dr_ft    0. sp_ll

  __________
  1234567890

Part 1 Solvers
1  Fractal_Monkey      1200
2  Tasselfoot          1200
3  jonathanasdf        1200
4  smartdude1212        1200
5  Silvuh                600

Part 2 Puzzle answer manipulation

Assuming you've solved all the puzzles, congratulations. For a bonus 500*0.9
points in order of submission, send a private message to the FFR account whose
name is derived in the following way from the answers to the previous questions:

1. Take the letter that is the answer to number 1
2. Take the number that is the answer to number 2
3. Multiply all the non-zero digits of answer 3 by each other
4. Take the total value of all nickels in cents
5. Take the number that is the answer to number 5
6. Take the letter represented by number 7 in the keyword
Code:

Part 2 Solvers

1  Fractal_Monkey      500
2  Tasselfoot          450
3  jonathanasdf        405
4  sc979                365
5  smartdude1212        328

Part 3 Song component

Generate a score such that your number of misses is the same as your combo.
Ranked in order of how large that number is. Standard 1000*0.9 point score
Code:

Part 3 Song Standings

1  Tasselfoot          1219    1000
2  Fractal_Monkey        850    900
3  Silvuh                  1    810


Quote:

Round 9 - Saturday May 10th 8:00am EST
Round 9

The diagram below represents a treasure map. The treasure is buried in the spot marked ***.
The other squares are labelled with compass directions, and numbers of paces. So if you landed
on a square labelled N2, your next step would be "North 2 spaces" etc. The problem is, the map
isn't clear about which of these squares is your starting point. You can only -land- on a given
square once, though you can pass overtop of them any number of times. You must figure out where
the starting point is.
Code:

S4      E3      SW2    E8      E3      E3      SE3    SW1    SW6    S6      S1      W2
SE4    S2      SE5    S2      NE1    S6      SE3    SE4    W5      SW2    S1      W11
NE1    E5      N2      E2      W1      SE3    S1      W5      S4      E2      NE1    W4
NE2    S3      W2      N3      E6      NW1    NW2    W5      N1      E2      S3      W7
E2      SW1    NE4    SW1    S2      S2      W5      W1      W4      SE1    ***    W1
E3      NE4    E7      SW2    E2      N2      SE2    N4      N1      N4      N5      S2
E6      N1      E9      NE2    NE1    NE3    NE1    NW6    W5      N4      W10    N2
NE3    N5      NE6    E4      W2      W2      E3      W1      W4      E1      NW3    W11

Code:

Round 9 Standings

1  Tasselfoot          1000
2  Fractal_Monkey        950
3  sc979                905
4  Silvuh                865
5  jonathanasdf          828
6  smartdude1212        795

Round 9 Mental Bonus

What is the number that belongs in place of the ? and why?

Edit: Gah you guys and your breaking of my puzzles. The number in the ? blank is a -whole number-

Code:

Round 9 Puzzle Solvers

1  Tasselfoot          750


Quote:

Round 8 - Thursday May 8th 6:00am EST

In this puzzle, each column of letters (listed alphabetically) fits into the
blanks in the column of the quote below them to describe this round's challenge.
X's denote spaces between words.
Code:

aaomanaaddobacofoaaageofhegecmbacaiaedn
bcsrcoreleqeehonueachouilgkndooereleges
messeoyenerfnlss lbenywslioouorevenlget
si ses npevnootw msrr  tol sysuu wrsle 
ws  s      u    n  y    n  y    u v 

    X  X    X      X  X    X        X
      X  X    X  X  X    X  X  X  X
  X    X        X  X  X    X  X    XXX
  X      X  X  X    X  X      X    XX
  X  X      X  X    X    X    X      X

This might be easier to work with?

_____X__X_____X______X__X_____X________X
______X___X____X__X___X____X___X___X___X
__X____X________X__X___X____X___X____XXX
__X______X__X___X_____X___X______X____XX
___X__X______X__X____X____X_____X______X

Code:

Round 8 Standings

1  Fractal_Monkey      20      1000
2  sc979                13      900
3  Tasselfoot          12      810
4  Silvuh              11      729
5  EI_Tizzy            10      656
6  jonathanasdf          1      590

Round 8 Mental Bonus

Complete the game http://www.kongregate.com/games/Mx7f/tractor-spheres

Score 20 points per level completed, to a maximum of 500 points for completing
all 25 levels. There is the usual 250/150/100 point bonus for the first three
people to submit the -complete- 25 level game.

Round 8 Bonus Solvers

1 EI_Tizzy 750
2 Fractal_Monkey 650
3 Tasselfoot 600
4 Silvuh 500
5 jonathanasdf 500
Quote:

Round 7 - Tuesday May 6th 4:00am EST

Don't be confused. This isn't a puzzle round, I've just taken the time to disguise exactly what the round actually is. Since it's still a song round, there's obviously no speed componant so don't feel rushed trying to figure this out, but of course, if you can't figure it out, I guess you won't know what to do on what to submit the round. (I'm hoping people submit scores before everyone has figured it out just for the fun of going "your score is 10? 10 what?!?!")



Code:

Round 7 Standings

1  Tasselfoot          1828            1000
2  sc979                1822            900
3  Silvuh              1818            810
4  jonathanasdf        1802            729
5  EI_Tizzy            1754            656
6  Fractal_Monkey      1606            590
7  MrRubix              1084              0

Round 7 Mental bonus:

Complete the game http://www.kongregate.com/games/bont.../factory-balls

500 points for completion, and 250/150/100 points for the first three submissions
of the completed game. Already having the badge is not sufficient proof, you
have to provide a new screenshot showing you've completed the game.
[code]
Round 7 Mental Bonus Standings
Code:

1  MrRubix                0
2  EI_Tizzy            750
3  Silvuh              650
4  Fractal_Monkey      600
5  jonathanasdf        500
6  smartdude1212        500
7  Tasselfoot          500


Quote:

Round 6 - Sunday May 4th 2:00am EST
These tiles, if placed in the correct order will form a square where each horizontal
line will be identical to one vertical line. Assemble the square.

To clarify, I mean that while there may be multiple ways to assemble those tiles into a square, the square is solved correctly if for each of the 8-digit rows matches up left to right, with one of the 8-digit columns top to bottom.

So if one row is 12345678 then one column will be
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8


Since puzzle rounds are either solvable or not, instead of the usual sliding scale of points for how well you score
the puzzle rounds will simply be worth a flat 500 points for completion, with 500 points also being awarded for
the first person to submit the correct solution, and 500*0.9 (The usual scale) in order as later people submit
the correct response.

Code:

445    9      623      2    860     
        2              54      2     
47      9      325                     
                6                    2
  3    0                    32       
 564    5                    26       
        8      4    64            9 0
                5    7              039
58                            890     
        29          4               
                    24             
            0                         
  89        4            67         
  97        7              5

Code:

Round 6 Standings

1  jonathanasdf        1000
2  Fractal_Monkey        950
3  Tasselfoot            905
4  Silvuh                865

Mental Bonus

Place the letters from the given 9 letter word onto the blanks, one letter per blank
to spell a 7 letter, 5 letter and 3 letter word. Every letter in the 9 letter word
is used once, but only once.

500 points for completion with the usual 250/150/100 bonus points to the first three
correct submissions
Code:

BUCKWHEAT      IMPORTANT      BOULEVARD      SHAPELESS      SIGNATURE
 _R_C_E_        _P_O_N_        _E_O_E_        _O_T_S_        _R_N_T_
  _O_S_          _O_O_          _Z_R_          _E_S_          _T_E_
  _O_            _W_            _A_            _A_            _0_

Code:

Round 6 Mental Bonus Solvers
1  smartdude1212        750
2  Tasselfoot          650
3  EI_Tizzy            600
4  jonathanasdf        500
5  PlayTrumpet          500
6  Fractal_monkey      500
7  Silvuh              500
8  MrRubix                0


Quote:

Round 5 - Friday May 2nd 12:00 Midnight EST

Get as close to 680 boos on one song as you can without going over.
Since this would be trivially easy with autofail: no use of autofail. You
must complete the whole song for the score to count. Score will
be ranked by fewest number of boos under 680

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Round 5 Standings
1  Tasselfoot            0            1000
1  EI_Tizzy              0            1000
1  Silvuh                0            1000
1  smartdude1212          0            1000
2  Fractal_Monkey        3              900
3  Jonathanasdf          8              810

Round 5 Mental Challenge

In these long division problems, letters have been substituted for numbers.
Determine the value of each letter, then arrange the letters in order from
0-9 and they'll spell a word.

For 500 points, with the usual 250/150/100 bonus for the first three correct
submissions, you can send me in all the math if you like, but simply the
list of words is sufficient.

In case it isn't clear, each question has a self-contained substitution. An E in one problem won't be the same number as in other problems.

Code:

        HIE                    ANN
RITE|CELLAR            DAME|STAINS
    CPPL                    DAME
      HIBA                  GIMUN
      RITE                  GANGI
      IELCR                  GDNSS
      IERPI                  GANGI
        HTI                    UMDT


        AGA                    ERN
VAIN|SAVORS            LIST|MANNER
    IRVO                    LIST
    ANFFR                  UIEIE
    AILVI                  UIETU
      GISS                      TMR
      IRVO            
      ALIR       

Round 5 Mental Solvers
1  smartdude1212        750
2  EI_Tizzy            650
3  jonathanasdf        600
4  MrRubix              500
5  Tasselfoot          500
6  Fractal_monkey      500
7  PlayTrumpet          500
8  Silvuh              500


Quote:

Round 4 - Tuesday April 29th 10:00pm EST

Get the most perfects you can in under 8 minutes of song.
IE. The total length of all songs submitted MUST be 8:00 or less.
Ranked in order of most perfects.

Edit: Some questions that have come up: The total length of songs used in your submission must be 8 minutes or under. You can play them over whatever span of time you like. You must pass all the songs. You can use the same song more than once in adding your 8 minutes (IE. You could do a 2:00 song 4 times in a row)

Edit: My preferred method for you to submit your scores here would be for you to plan out your 8 minutes of song, do them one after the other, though since multiple runs of each may happen until you're satisfied, sending a screenshot of your ten "recent replays" (if you ended up with under 10 songs) would work, or alternatively, just some large number of final score screenshots is fine too, whatever is most convenient for you.

Code:

Round 4 Standings

1  MrRubix              5938            1000
2  smartdude1212        5924            900
3  Tasselfoot          5848            810
4  Ravia                5835            729
5  Fractal_Monkey      5040            656
6  Silvuh              5011            590
7  EI_Tizzy            4908            531
8  jonathanasdf        4257            478
9  PlayTrumpet          4248            430
10 tophius              3606            387


Round 4 Mental Bonus

Complete the game http://www.kongregate.com/games/offt...e-gravity-maze
Scoring is 10 points per level completed with a bonus of 120 if you beat the whole thing.
Thus you can get between 10 and 480 points for completion, or 600 points to beat it.
250/150/100 point bonus to the first three players who submit the full beaten game.

Yes I know that Kongregate does save progress on this game, and so people who've been there
a long time and already beaten it could in fact just go to level 48 beat it and send in a
screenshot. However, people who do that have completely thrown fair competition out of the
window in a greed for points. The letter of the rule just says that you need a screenshot
confirming that you've beaten the last level to score the points, but the spirit of the rule
is clearly that you play from level 1 all the way through. I'm counting all screenshots I
get that show the last level cleared, and simply counting on your good sportsmanship to ensure
that you don't decide to cheat simply because you can.

Code:

Round 4 Mental Solvers

1  Tasselfoot          850
2  MrRubix              750
3  PlayTrumpet          700
4  jonathanasdf        600
5  Ravia                600
6  Smartdude1212        600
7  Silvuh              600
8  Fractal_Monkey      600


Quote:

Round 3 - Sunday April 27th 8:00pm EST
Since puzzle rounds are either solvable or not, instead of the usual sliding scale of points for how well you score
the puzzle rounds will simply be worth a flat 500 points for completion, with 500 points also being awarded for
the first person to submit the correct solution, and 500*0.9 (The usual scale) in order as later people submit
the correct response. That way, since completion is all that matters, first places go to those who complete things
the fastest. So you'll have a better crack at getting the bonus if you're here right when the round goes up, but you
aren't completely screwed out of points if you happen to miss the start of the round. If this really pisses people off
then the alternative is just 1000 points if you do it, and 0 if you don't, which I really don't want to do.

Given the incredibly heavy workload the staff of FFR is labouring under, Synthlight was forced to cut each administrator down
to only one day off per week. Tasselfoot, MalDON, Plaguefox, Jasonkey and Nestlekwik got stuck taking Monday through Friday
as their respective days off. Between the five of them, their chosen ways to relax on their one day off were
Watching porn, Drinking whiskey, Crying quietly alone, Plotting a takeover, and playing Beach Volleyball.
From the clues listed below, can you determine which admin did what activity on which day off?

1/ Tass would take his day off later in the week than the plotter, but earlier than the cryer.

2/ Neither the Volleyball player, or MalDON's day off is Tuesday, Wednesday, or Thursday.

3/ The admin who spent their time drinking whiskey would do so later in the week than Nestlekwik and earlier than JasonKey

4/ Plaguefox's day off was after the porn watcher, but neither would get monday or wednesday off.

5/ The cryer's day off is later in the week than the porn watcher, but before the whiskey drinker.

Code:

Round 3 Standings

1  Commandersa1                1000
2  MrRubix                      950
3  EI_Tizzy                      905
4  Tasselfoot                    865
5  sc979                        828
6  PlayTrumpet                  795
7  jonathanasdf                  766
8  Jammer325                    739
9  Fractal_Monkey                715
10 Emerald000                    694
11 Ravia                        674
12 Smartdude1212                657
13 Silvuh                        641

Round 3 bonus Mental Puzzle:

Score 185,000 points on http://www.kongregate.com/games/matpg/25-boxes
Must provide a screenshot of the final score page, preferably with your login (same as FFR username)
showing in the image, and a score of 185,000 or more points. 500 points for completion with the usual
250/150/100 bonus points for the first three to finish. Since this is just a completion with no visible
strategy or answer from a post, feel free to post via PM or in the thread as you like. I'll be going by
the timestamps to determine order of finishing.
Code:

Round 3 Solvers
1  Tasselfoot          750
2  Jammer325            650
3  MrRubix              600
4  EI_Tizzy            500
5  Commandersa1        500
6  PlayTrumpet          500
7  jonathanasdf        500
8  fractal_monkey      500
9  Emerald000          500
10 sc979                500
11 Ravia                500
12 Smartdude1212        500
13 Silvuh              500


Quote:

Round 2 - Friday April 25th 6:00pm EST
Get the largest value of (Goods*Averages)/(Perfects+1) on one song as you can and pass.
No autofail allowed, you have to do the entire song.

Bonus Mental Puzzle:
For 500 points, with a 250/150/100 point bonus to the first three to send in a correct answer.
Send in responses by PRIVATE MESSAGE only.

Code:

Round 2 Standings

smartdude1212        301320.0000              1000
MrRubix              139755.0000                900
Tasselfoot            113820.0000                810
sc979                  44112.8000                729
EI_Tizzy              44088.0000                656
Silvuh                11737.1219                590
PlayTrumpet            10500.0000                531
Fractal_Monkey          6798.3636                478
Ravia                  1766.4782                430
Jerry_DB                  92.2231                387
Jonathanasdf              58.3333                349


Unscramble the columns of syllables to form eight words of different lengths. One 8-syllable, one 7-syllable etc down to
a 1-syllable word. Don't change the order of syllables, if a syllable appears on column 3, it's the third syllable of a word.
Code:

1      2      3      4      5      6      7      8
Tech    mon    tro    di      cal    ly      an      cal
Har    lec    log    ma      a      i      i
Il      e      mi      an      cy      lyt
Mem    git    ize    i      nar
Val    o      i      nate
Each    no      tu
Le      lu
E


Round 2 Mental Solvers
1.  Fractal_Monkey      750
2.  EI_Tizzy            650
3.  Tasselfoot          600
4.  sc979                500
5.  Jammer325            500
6.  PlayTrumpet          500
7.  Commandersa1        500
8.  Emerald000          500
9.  jonathanasdf        500
10. RubiedCross          500
11. MrRubix              500
12. Tophius              500
13. Ravia                500
14. Smartdude1212        500
15. Silvuh              500


Quote:

Round 1 - Wednesday April 23rd, 4:00pm EST
Get an FFR Final Total score (on one song) as close to 750,000 as possible.
Places rank by how many points off of 750,000 you are.
Any song you like, any use of autofail or other mods as you like.

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Round 1 Standings

1  Tasselfoot          +-0            1000
1  Smartdude1212        +-0            1000
1  Fractal_Monkey      +-0            1000
1  MrRubix              +-0            1000
1  Jerry_DB            +-0            1000
1  EDEdDNEdDYFaN        +-0            1000
1  PlayTrumpet          +-0            1000
1  sc979                +-0            1000
1  Emerald000          +-0            1000
1  EI_Tizzy            +-0            1000
1  Silvuh              +-0            1000
2  RubiedCross          +-20            900
3  jonathanasdf        +-155            810
4  darkness3608        +-595            729
5  Ravia                +-1590          656
6  funmonkey54          +-26955          590


Bonus Mental Puzzle: for 500 points, plus 250/150/100 for the first three correct answers:
You must submit your solution to this puzzle via Private Forum Message ONLY
Code:

Two 6-letter words with their letters in the correct order are combined in each row of letters.
Seperate the words.  There are no extra letters, no letter is used more than once, and the two
words in each pair are synonyms.

SCHRREAFWTDY
RHEAFRBOURGE
MTEAMDPDELER
NAEALMROLSTY
DOECRREDAEIN


Round 1 Mental Solvers
1 Emerald000            750
2 Tasselfoot            650
3 EI_Tizzy              600
4 Smartdude1212        500
5 PlayTrumpet          500
6 Dooey100              500
7 MrRubix              500
8 Fractal_Monkey        500
9 jonathanasdf          500
10 sumzup              500
11 sc979                500
12 EDEdDNEdDYFaN        500
13 Commandersa1        500
14 RubiedCross          500
15 jammer325            500
16 ravia                500
17 funmonkey54          500
18 Silvuh              500

More other bonus:

For 100 bonus points, post or submit via PM a screenshot of your having registered an account on Kongregate.com showing your username up in the corner, by preference matching your FFR account name, but it doesn't have to be. This is because there will be bonus rounds later that require you to play games found on that site, and by getting you to sign up now, with bonus points, it will make it much easier in later rounds to direct you to the site.
Code:

More Other Bonus Obtainers

1  Tass
2  Smartdude
3  Fractal_Monkey
4  PlayTrumpet
5  Jerry_DB
6  MrRubix
7  jonathanasdf
8  darkness3608
9  dooey100
10 EDEdDNEdDYFaN
11 Commandersa1
12 RubiedCross
13 Funmonkey54
14 Emerald000
15 EI_Tizzy
16 Sumzup
17 Tophius
18 jammer325
19 Silvuh



smartdude1212 04-20-2008 03:57 PM

Re: Devonin's Critical Thinking Tourney Part 2
 
Moi.

dandandamdandan1111 04-20-2008 04:00 PM

Re: Devonin's Critical Thinking Tourney Part 2
 
I didn't get a chance to join the first one, so I'll join this time around.

pmonibuv1 04-20-2008 04:27 PM

Re: Devonin's Critical Thinking Tourney Two
 
at the end of the tourney, are there prizes or just bragging rights? havent seen your first one so not sure how you did it. btw, im in this.

devonin 04-20-2008 04:39 PM

Re: Devonin's Critical Thinking Tourney Two
 
Well I put in 100,000 credits myself to start it off. Hopefully donations will be forthcoming and it will go up considerably. If a very large number of people are in and participating, I may be convinced to pony up some cash or other goodies as well.

I know Tass tends to get a lot of mileage out of bragging rights in this kind of tourney, so there's that as well.

pmonibuv1 04-20-2008 04:47 PM

Re: Devonin's Critical Thinking Tourney Two
 
ok. wat i really want would be a subscription. any length of subscription would be nice but credits are number 2 in the things i want out of FFR.

SoultakerNFH 04-20-2008 06:03 PM

Re: Devonin's Critical Thinking Tourney Two
 
In.

Sullyman2007 04-20-2008 06:23 PM

Re: Devonin's Critical Thinking Tourney Two
 
Read through everything. Only question I have is when you go to do a a task involving flash games, do you have a list of sites because some of them you need to sign up for.

Also, notification please.

lxDestinyxl 04-20-2008 06:26 PM

Re: Devonin's Critical Thinking Tourney Two
 
Joining =]

devonin 04-20-2008 06:51 PM

Re: Devonin's Critical Thinking Tourney Two
 
Any game I use will either be playable with no need for signup, or at www.kongregate.com which you can all sign up for, and probably should anyway just because it's a great game site. I won't even pull a Tass and tell you all to sign up using my referrer link *grin*

blackjack2300 04-20-2008 06:55 PM

Re: Devonin's Critical Thinking Tourney Two
 
yea i might as well join

Sk8IT 04-20-2008 07:44 PM

Re: Devonin's Critical Thinking Tourney Two
 
INN

funmonkey54 04-20-2008 07:47 PM

Re: Devonin's Critical Thinking Tourney Two
 
I will join and hope to have a great time in this tournament.

Tasselfoot 04-20-2008 07:49 PM

Re: Devonin's Critical Thinking Tourney Two
 
use my referral link instead? also... make sure to IM me when it starts. you know i'll be here. :).

rzr 04-20-2008 09:00 PM

Re: Devonin's Critical Thinking Tourney Two
 
I'm in as long as I can gain access to a computer while it happens. It shouldn't be a problem though...

susurrus 04-20-2008 09:12 PM

Re: Devonin's Critical Thinking Tourney Two
 
I'll join

jonathanasdf 04-21-2008 01:21 AM

Re: Devonin's Critical Thinking Tourney Two
 
finally. too bad i don't have enough creds to donate.

x After Dawn x 04-21-2008 04:12 AM

Re: Devonin's Critical Thinking Tourney Two
 
Rubix is in, oh gawd.

QuadDamage 04-21-2008 04:12 AM

Re: Devonin's Critical Thinking Tourney Two
 
Count me in


Q-Q-QUAD DAAMAAAGGEE *cue the exploding of many demons via rocket launcher*

I figure someone's gotta at least try to keep Tass on his toes -- he keeps winning every damn tournament. You're going down, son

MrRubix 04-21-2008 04:20 AM

Re: Devonin's Critical Thinking Tourney Two
 
At the very least, I'd like to enter as MrRubix... I think QuadDamage can take a backseat for now.

Jerry DB 04-21-2008 04:28 AM

Re: Devonin's Critical Thinking Tourney Two
 
im in

jonathanasdf 04-21-2008 09:20 AM

Re: Devonin's Critical Thinking Tourney Two
 
aahhhh! the horror! the damage! Quadified! lol

rsr2 04-21-2008 09:23 AM

Re: Devonin's Critical Thinking Tourney Two
 
In

Also send me a pm for the first round please

PlayTrumpet 04-21-2008 11:33 AM

Re: Devonin's Critical Thinking Tourney Two
 
In. PM please, I forget things so easily.

sumzup 04-21-2008 11:56 AM

Re: Devonin's Critical Thinking Tourney Two
 
In + notification.

devonin 04-21-2008 02:32 PM

Re: Devonin's Critical Thinking Tourney Two
 
Updated everyone to here. Also, Tass -and- Rubix, huzzah!

MystictheHedgehog 04-21-2008 02:51 PM

Re: Devonin's Critical Thinking Tourney Two
 
I'll take a stab at it (+notification).

emerald000 04-21-2008 03:57 PM

Re: Devonin's Critical Thinking Tourney Two
 
Put me in and I hope that it will last until the end...

Zythus 04-21-2008 05:00 PM

Re: Devonin's Critical Thinking Tourney Two
 
=o
ill sign up, seems interesting.

rzr 04-21-2008 06:49 PM

Re: Devonin's Critical Thinking Tourney Two
 
>< with tass and rubix in it seems pointless to join but I'll stil stay in.. PM me with info, please ^^

Netjet! 04-21-2008 08:10 PM

Re: Devonin's Critical Thinking Tourney Two
 
joined. pm notify me please :D

devonin 04-21-2008 09:14 PM

Re: Devonin's Critical Thinking Tourney Two
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by emerald000 (Post 2129844)
Put me in and I hope that it will last until the end...

Why wouldn't it?

jonathanasdf 04-21-2008 09:15 PM

Re: Devonin's Critical Thinking Tourney Two
 
uhhh..

omnipwn died.
tass tourney died
my tourney BARELY survived...

:S and suddenly there is an influx of tourneys...

ehh

devonin 04-22-2008 02:23 AM

Re: Devonin's Critical Thinking Tourney Two
 
My last tourney went right until the end. I see no reason why someone else's tourney dying means mine will :P

Tasselfoot 04-22-2008 04:52 AM

Re: Devonin's Critical Thinking Tourney Two
 
my first tourney went to the end. rubix's first tourney went to the end. *shrugs*. i'll participate as long as you have rounds.

darkness3608 04-22-2008 06:38 AM

Re: Devonin's Critical Thinking Tourney Two
 
Im in, I love thinking, I didnt get a chance to come to the first one so... hope I do good in this one

KilikOdagawa 04-22-2008 07:00 AM

Re: Devonin's Critical Thinking Tourney Two
 
I'll sign up this time. It'll keep me off of 2Moons.

Fractal_Monkey 04-22-2008 01:20 PM

Re: Devonin's Critical Thinking Tourney Two
 
Sign me up.

Tophius 04-22-2008 08:05 PM

Re: Devonin's Critical Thinking Tourney Two
 
Hey Devon. :D Sign me up please, I need some more brain exercise.

Commandersa1 04-22-2008 08:32 PM

Re: Devonin's Critical Thinking Tourney Two
 
I'll join.

infinity. 04-22-2008 09:08 PM

Re: Devonin's Critical Thinking Tourney Two
 
I'm in.

dooey100 04-22-2008 09:56 PM

Re: Devonin's Critical Thinking Tourney Two
 
This is my kind of tournament, more thought then skill. :) (I think? Mabey? Strategy at least ;s ) I'd like the notification PM please.

devonin 04-23-2008 04:08 PM

Re: Devonin's Critical Thinking Tourney Two
 
First round is up and posted. Let the tourney begin.

Tasselfoot 04-23-2008 04:20 PM

Re: Devonin's Critical Thinking Tourney Two
 
finished the mental.

smartdude1212 04-23-2008 04:31 PM

Re: Devonin's Critical Thinking Tourney Two
 
Finished it in like 3 minutes... e_e

EI_Tizzy 04-23-2008 04:31 PM

Re: Devonin's Critical Thinking Tourney Two
 
I think I did too...

Tasselfoot 04-23-2008 04:32 PM

Re: Devonin's Critical Thinking Tourney Two
 
750,000-got. confirmed by devonin. replay deleted and last 10 games cleared.

i recommend if you get a score that is on or REALLY close, you do NOT post it here.

PlayTrumpet 04-23-2008 04:38 PM

Re: Devonin's Critical Thinking Tourney Two
 
I would've gotten the mental quicker if I didn't type the wrong letters into Notepad. =P I should have just done it from the post.. =P The 750,000.. Should be easy. =)

devonin 04-23-2008 04:42 PM

Re: Devonin's Critical Thinking Tourney Two
 
Like I said, since I understand that this kind of round can involve some strategies that are more complicated than others, I will accept song submissions via PM'd screenshot, or if I'm around on AIM, just link me to your last scores or whatever, and once you've either sent in your screenshot, or confirmed your score with me, you can feel free to delete all evidence of your work.

MrRubix 04-23-2008 04:46 PM

Re: Devonin's Critical Thinking Tourney Two
 
**** it, I'm dropping out. I didn't get here in time.

smartdude1212 04-23-2008 04:48 PM

Re: Devonin's Critical Thinking Tourney Two
 
rofl what

also yeah I got my 750k

devonin 04-23-2008 04:48 PM

Re: Devonin's Critical Thinking Tourney Two
 
You missed one extra bonus point set in a 10 round tournament and you're quitting?

dooey100 04-23-2008 05:00 PM

Re: Devonin's Critical Thinking Tourney Two
 
rats, didn't get first 3 bonuses :(
oh well, good puzzle anyway

smartdude1212 04-23-2008 05:01 PM

Re: Devonin's Critical Thinking Tourney Two
 
This too:


Done round 1 bye (I have Onslaught2 badges to get ._.)

Jerry DB 04-23-2008 06:06 PM

Re: Devonin's Critical Thinking Tourney Two
 
I sent you a pm with my score so be sure to check that


devonin 04-23-2008 07:16 PM

Re: Devonin's Critical Thinking Tourney Two
 
Everything should be updated to here.

jonathanasdf 04-23-2008 09:24 PM

Re: Devonin's Critical Thinking Tourney Two
 
I was sooo lucky to get this score...

IF only I could PA better... but I can't hit 400+ perfects in a row :(

PlayTrumpet 04-23-2008 09:27 PM

Re: Devonin's Critical Thinking Tourney Two
 
Heh, are you sure you should be giving away your method/song? :?:

Quote:

i recommend if you get a score that is on or REALLY close, you do NOT post it here

jonathanasdf 04-23-2008 09:29 PM

Re: Devonin's Critical Thinking Tourney Two
 
actually, its luck. I didn't have a method. Good luck recreating it xD you won't be able to.

I'll bow down to anyone who can recreate this and send me replay link as proof.

And choice of song: it was arbitrary. Lol

dooey100 04-23-2008 11:04 PM

Re: Devonin's Critical Thinking Tourney Two
 

MrRubix 04-23-2008 11:55 PM

Re: Devonin's Critical Thinking Tourney Two
 
750k get with a really cool approach that I don't think anyone else will use

devonin 04-23-2008 11:55 PM

Re: Devonin's Critical Thinking Tourney Two
 
Should be updated to here. Remember, if at any point you spot a discrepancy in my scoring, point it out. Sometimes it's tough to wrangle numbers across three text documents and a spreadsheet :P

MrRubix 04-24-2008 12:00 AM

Re: Devonin's Critical Thinking Tourney Two
 
I think I'm gonna have a hard time with this tourney -- stuff's so crazy schedule-wise that it's gonna be hard to make it here in time for certain rounds to nab the time-sensitive bonuses.

EDEdDNEdDYFaN 04-24-2008 12:02 AM

Re: Devonin's Critical Thinking Tourney Two
 
If only I had remembered this topic ;(, oh well got everything in for round one.

Tasselfoot 04-24-2008 04:31 AM

Re: Devonin's Critical Thinking Tourney Two
 
rubix... PM me your method? smartdude and i did it 2 different ways, curious if you did it a 3rd different way.

funmonkey54 04-24-2008 07:20 AM

Re: Devonin's Critical Thinking Tourney Two
 
1 Attachment(s)
I have a kongregate!

Tasselfoot 04-24-2008 02:15 PM

Re: Devonin's Critical Thinking Tourney Two
 
voting for all 1st place ties to get rank 1... then the next lowest to get 7th (in this case). in the general case, all the rank 1s to get rank 1 points, but force the lower non-rank 1 into the spot that they would be if all the rank 1s were rated individually by speed to accomplish... 6 people all have exactly 750k, so the next score that isn't exactly 750k should be 7th.

and, IIRC, this is how you did it for your previous tournament... for the FFR portion. it should be how it's done here.

PlayTrumpet 04-24-2008 03:00 PM

Re: Devonin's Critical Thinking Tourney Two
 
Resubmitted with my 750k score. I wonder how other people did it. My way seems the simplest, I'm just curious if Tass used it. =P

devonin 04-24-2008 03:04 PM

Re: Devonin's Critical Thinking Tourney Two
 
The issue people had last time was that anyone who couldn't AAA the songs was getting completely hosed on points, because the second best score was putting them into the 3rd or 4th score range. The points were like "first gets X" "2nd through 5th Gets Y" "6th through 10ths gets Z" And the scores went as you're describing, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 6, 6, 6, 9 etc.

There were complaints from the people who weren't super good at FFR that it was extra mean because AAAing both got you maximum points and pushed everyone else down into lower points.

You're only seeing it as a problem here because I made the round less difficult to complete maximally than I could have. If future rounds are harder to just have "One or more easy maximal solutions" that 6 or 7 people all get, there will be much less to complain about.

devonin 04-24-2008 03:11 PM

Re: Devonin's Critical Thinking Tourney Two
 
There's the difference in standings currently using Tasselfoot's suggested method.

Code:

Tasselfoot            1750            1                    1*
Smartdude1212          1600            1                    1*
Fractal_Monkey        1600            1                    1*
MrRubix                1600            1                    1*
EDEdDNEdDYFaN          1600            1                    1*
PlayTrumpet            1600            1                    1*
Jonathanasdf          1500            1                    1*
Jerry_DB              1100            1                    *

Emerald000              750                                  1
EI_Tizzy                600                                  1
Dooey100                600                                  1*
Commandersa1            600                                  1*
sumzup                  500                                  1
sc979                  500                                  1
darkness3608            100                                  *
funmonkey54            100                                  *

Code:

Tasselfoot            1750            1                    1*
Smartdude1212          1600            1                    1*
Fractal_Monkey        1600            1                    1*
MrRubix                1600            1                    1*
EDEdDNEdDYFaN          1600            1                    1*
PlayTrumpet            1600            1                    1*
Jerry_DB              1100            1                    *
Jonathanasdf          1078            1                    1*

Emerald000              750                                  1
EI_Tizzy                600                                  1
Dooey100                600                                  1*
Commandersa1            600                                  1*
sumzup                  500                                  1
sc979                  500                                  1
darkness3608            100                                  *
funmonkey54            100                                  *


Tasselfoot 04-24-2008 03:19 PM

Re: Devonin's Critical Thinking Tourney Two
 
i assume future rounds will be harder to perfect, if not impossible. in those rounds it will have much less impact.

but, if you have a race, and 8 people tie exactly in score, the 9th place person isn't given 2nd. he's given 9th.

just because that person is CLOSE... they still don't deserve 2nd place points when 6+ people did better than they did. if it was ordered by speed after score, they'd be getting their 7th place or whatever anyway.

EI_Tizzy 04-24-2008 05:08 PM

Re: Devonin's Critical Thinking Tourney Two
 
1000% agree. Also, 750,000 get.

jonathanasdf 04-24-2008 07:41 PM

Re: Devonin's Critical Thinking Tourney Two
 
eww but I really cant PA 400+ notes..... ugh. and If you don't know what you're going to get setting up a strategy won't work, because I know how to do it, its really easy to do, but I can't the PAs.

Tasselfoot 04-24-2008 08:04 PM

Re: Devonin's Critical Thinking Tourney Two
 
ok. so you have a lack of skill at FFR that is preventing you from getting 750k on the nose. you should be sufficiently penalized for that.

also, jon... going to PM you some suggestions for getting it... feeling nice.

smartdude1212 04-24-2008 08:08 PM

Re: Devonin's Critical Thinking Tourney Two
 
So how did you get your 750k Tass?

Tasselfoot 04-24-2008 08:11 PM

Re: Devonin's Critical Thinking Tourney Two
 
I'll tell you over AIM. And PMed Jon with some advice.

PlayTrumpet 04-24-2008 08:11 PM

Re: Devonin's Critical Thinking Tourney Two
 
Hey, someone ask me. I feel left out. =(

emerald000 04-24-2008 08:17 PM

Re: Devonin's Critical Thinking Tourney Two
 
I should now be in first place. It probably won't say like this forever, but I am glad to be for now.


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