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Devonin's Critical Thinking Tourney Two - COMPLETED
Hello folks, it's time for another Devonin-brand Critical Thinking FFR Tournament. I've learned from some things in the last tourney that could have been done better, and we've seen some things everybody liked that really worked, so I'm hoping this will be a much better tournament than last time.
The format is going to be a little different this time. Instead of puzzles leading to songs with typical score-on-song ranking, the focus of this tournament will be on thinking critically about the best way to achieve a non-specific goal. You won't be told what songs to play or even how to play them. You'll have a goal to aim for (Something like..."The largest number of averages on one song") and it will be up to you to decide the best song to use, and the best way to achieve the stated goal. Interspersed in the song rounds will be a number of puzzle rounds more similar to the style of question in my last tourney. I imagine I will have 2/1/2/1/2/1 song rounds/puzzle rounds, plus a round 10 grand finale. That means 6 song rounds, 3 puzzle rounds, and a final 10th round. I'll post a round every two days, over 20 days, trying to push the post time ahead by about 2 hours each time to be fair to people outside my time zone (IE, one round at 4:00pm, the next round would be in 50 hours, at 6:00pm, then another 50 hours at 8:00pm, slowly working the post time around the clock) Why would I need to worry about the time I posted my rounds? Well, like last time, any player can submit the answer to any round at any time from when it goes up until the end of the tournament, so time isn't a function there, but where time WILL factor in is a series of mental bonus rounds. Most rounds will be accompanied by a smaller-scale mental challenge, either a small puzzle, or a task to be done via some sort of flash game online. There will be a flat bonus of points for completion at any time by anybody, but there will be a bonus given to the first three people to correctly submit the solution to the mental bonus, thus the desire to move the start time across the time zones. So, to boil it down, what we're looking at is this: 10 rounds, 6 FFR-based, 3 Puzzle-based, 1 Grand finale. Most, all if I can manage it, rounds accompanied by a mental bonus with points for completion, and a bonus for speed. Scoring will be in the Rubix/Tass style, the person in first for a given round will recieve 1000 points. Each place below that will score 90% of the points scored by the person ahead of them: 1000, 900, 810, 729, 656 etc. Mental bonuses will usually be a flat 500 points, with a bonus probably 250/150/100 for the first three people to submit correct solutions. Since the song rounds are designed to involve a reasonable amount of strategy, people who don't wish to give away how they are tackling the problem of the round are absolutely able to submit their entries via private message rather than posting them in the thread. I'm going to post the first round of the tournament in three days on Wednesday, April 23rd at 4:00pm EST Since anyone can submit rounds at any time, there is no need for a formal signup, but anybody who posts here that they want in will recieve a private message notification at the start of round 1 and 2. Hopefully this works out to be an awesome and fun tournament that makes you really think. Signups - The following people will recieve PM notification about the start of round 1 and 2 smartdude1212 dandandamdandan1111 pmonibuv1 SoultakerNFH sullyman2007 |xDestinyx| blackjack2300 sk8it funmonkey54 Tasselfoot rzr susurrus jonathanasdf MrRubix Jerry DB rsr2 PlayTrumpet sumzup Mysticthehedgehog emerald000 Zythus Netjet! darkness3608 kilik0dagawa fractal_monkey Tophius Commandersa1 Infinity. dooey100 Prizes - Current Prize Pot: 110,000 credits Prizes will, like last time, try to cascade as far down the rankings as possible. I'll post a tentative payout here as I get a feel for how many people are going to be taking part. Donations are welcome. Donators to the Prize pot: Devonin - 100,000 Jerry DB - 10,000 |
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You have until 11:59pm EST on Thursday the 15th to submit scores
Prize Pot 260,000 (I know it should have been more, but I put in 100k, and credit bug recalculations dumped me down to like...much less than that, so this is basically Ledwix's 240, Jerry's 10 and 10 more of my own) Code:
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Moi.
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I didn't get a chance to join the first one, so I'll join this time around.
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at the end of the tourney, are there prizes or just bragging rights? havent seen your first one so not sure how you did it. btw, im in this.
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Well I put in 100,000 credits myself to start it off. Hopefully donations will be forthcoming and it will go up considerably. If a very large number of people are in and participating, I may be convinced to pony up some cash or other goodies as well.
I know Tass tends to get a lot of mileage out of bragging rights in this kind of tourney, so there's that as well. |
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ok. wat i really want would be a subscription. any length of subscription would be nice but credits are number 2 in the things i want out of FFR.
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In.
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Read through everything. Only question I have is when you go to do a a task involving flash games, do you have a list of sites because some of them you need to sign up for.
Also, notification please. |
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Joining =]
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Any game I use will either be playable with no need for signup, or at www.kongregate.com which you can all sign up for, and probably should anyway just because it's a great game site. I won't even pull a Tass and tell you all to sign up using my referrer link *grin*
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yea i might as well join
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INN
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I will join and hope to have a great time in this tournament.
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use my referral link instead? also... make sure to IM me when it starts. you know i'll be here. :).
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I'm in as long as I can gain access to a computer while it happens. It shouldn't be a problem though...
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I'll join
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finally. too bad i don't have enough creds to donate.
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Rubix is in, oh gawd.
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Count me in
Q-Q-QUAD DAAMAAAGGEE *cue the exploding of many demons via rocket launcher* I figure someone's gotta at least try to keep Tass on his toes -- he keeps winning every damn tournament. You're going down, son |
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At the very least, I'd like to enter as MrRubix... I think QuadDamage can take a backseat for now.
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im in
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aahhhh! the horror! the damage! Quadified! lol
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Also send me a pm for the first round please |
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In. PM please, I forget things so easily.
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In + notification.
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Updated everyone to here. Also, Tass -and- Rubix, huzzah!
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I'll take a stab at it (+notification).
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Put me in and I hope that it will last until the end...
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=o
ill sign up, seems interesting. |
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>< with tass and rubix in it seems pointless to join but I'll stil stay in.. PM me with info, please ^^
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joined. pm notify me please :D
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uhhh..
omnipwn died. tass tourney died my tourney BARELY survived... :S and suddenly there is an influx of tourneys... ehh |
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My last tourney went right until the end. I see no reason why someone else's tourney dying means mine will :P
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my first tourney went to the end. rubix's first tourney went to the end. *shrugs*. i'll participate as long as you have rounds.
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Im in, I love thinking, I didnt get a chance to come to the first one so... hope I do good in this one
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I'll sign up this time. It'll keep me off of 2Moons.
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Sign me up.
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Hey Devon. :D Sign me up please, I need some more brain exercise.
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I'll join.
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I'm in.
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This is my kind of tournament, more thought then skill. :) (I think? Mabey? Strategy at least ;s ) I'd like the notification PM please.
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First round is up and posted. Let the tourney begin.
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finished the mental.
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Finished it in like 3 minutes... e_e
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I think I did too...
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750,000-got. confirmed by devonin. replay deleted and last 10 games cleared.
i recommend if you get a score that is on or REALLY close, you do NOT post it here. |
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I would've gotten the mental quicker if I didn't type the wrong letters into Notepad. =P I should have just done it from the post.. =P The 750,000.. Should be easy. =)
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Like I said, since I understand that this kind of round can involve some strategies that are more complicated than others, I will accept song submissions via PM'd screenshot, or if I'm around on AIM, just link me to your last scores or whatever, and once you've either sent in your screenshot, or confirmed your score with me, you can feel free to delete all evidence of your work.
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**** it, I'm dropping out. I didn't get here in time.
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rofl what
also yeah I got my 750k |
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You missed one extra bonus point set in a 10 round tournament and you're quitting?
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rats, didn't get first 3 bonuses :(
oh well, good puzzle anyway |
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This too:
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Everything should be updated to here.
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I was sooo lucky to get this score...
IF only I could PA better... but I can't hit 400+ perfects in a row :( |
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Heh, are you sure you should be giving away your method/song? :?:
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actually, its luck. I didn't have a method. Good luck recreating it xD you won't be able to.
I'll bow down to anyone who can recreate this and send me replay link as proof. And choice of song: it was arbitrary. Lol |
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750k get with a really cool approach that I don't think anyone else will use
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Should be updated to here. Remember, if at any point you spot a discrepancy in my scoring, point it out. Sometimes it's tough to wrangle numbers across three text documents and a spreadsheet :P
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I think I'm gonna have a hard time with this tourney -- stuff's so crazy schedule-wise that it's gonna be hard to make it here in time for certain rounds to nab the time-sensitive bonuses.
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If only I had remembered this topic ;(, oh well got everything in for round one.
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rubix... PM me your method? smartdude and i did it 2 different ways, curious if you did it a 3rd different way.
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voting for all 1st place ties to get rank 1... then the next lowest to get 7th (in this case). in the general case, all the rank 1s to get rank 1 points, but force the lower non-rank 1 into the spot that they would be if all the rank 1s were rated individually by speed to accomplish... 6 people all have exactly 750k, so the next score that isn't exactly 750k should be 7th.
and, IIRC, this is how you did it for your previous tournament... for the FFR portion. it should be how it's done here. |
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Resubmitted with my 750k score. I wonder how other people did it. My way seems the simplest, I'm just curious if Tass used it. =P
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The issue people had last time was that anyone who couldn't AAA the songs was getting completely hosed on points, because the second best score was putting them into the 3rd or 4th score range. The points were like "first gets X" "2nd through 5th Gets Y" "6th through 10ths gets Z" And the scores went as you're describing, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 6, 6, 6, 9 etc.
There were complaints from the people who weren't super good at FFR that it was extra mean because AAAing both got you maximum points and pushed everyone else down into lower points. You're only seeing it as a problem here because I made the round less difficult to complete maximally than I could have. If future rounds are harder to just have "One or more easy maximal solutions" that 6 or 7 people all get, there will be much less to complain about. |
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There's the difference in standings currently using Tasselfoot's suggested method.
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i assume future rounds will be harder to perfect, if not impossible. in those rounds it will have much less impact.
but, if you have a race, and 8 people tie exactly in score, the 9th place person isn't given 2nd. he's given 9th. just because that person is CLOSE... they still don't deserve 2nd place points when 6+ people did better than they did. if it was ordered by speed after score, they'd be getting their 7th place or whatever anyway. |
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1000% agree. Also, 750,000 get.
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eww but I really cant PA 400+ notes..... ugh. and If you don't know what you're going to get setting up a strategy won't work, because I know how to do it, its really easy to do, but I can't the PAs.
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ok. so you have a lack of skill at FFR that is preventing you from getting 750k on the nose. you should be sufficiently penalized for that.
also, jon... going to PM you some suggestions for getting it... feeling nice. |
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So how did you get your 750k Tass?
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I'll tell you over AIM. And PMed Jon with some advice.
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Hey, someone ask me. I feel left out. =(
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I should now be in first place. It probably won't say like this forever, but I am glad to be for now.
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