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jonathanasdf 04-23-2008 09:29 PM

Re: Devonin's Critical Thinking Tourney Two
 
actually, its luck. I didn't have a method. Good luck recreating it xD you won't be able to.

I'll bow down to anyone who can recreate this and send me replay link as proof.

And choice of song: it was arbitrary. Lol

dooey100 04-23-2008 11:04 PM

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MrRubix 04-23-2008 11:55 PM

Re: Devonin's Critical Thinking Tourney Two
 
750k get with a really cool approach that I don't think anyone else will use

devonin 04-23-2008 11:55 PM

Re: Devonin's Critical Thinking Tourney Two
 
Should be updated to here. Remember, if at any point you spot a discrepancy in my scoring, point it out. Sometimes it's tough to wrangle numbers across three text documents and a spreadsheet :P

MrRubix 04-24-2008 12:00 AM

Re: Devonin's Critical Thinking Tourney Two
 
I think I'm gonna have a hard time with this tourney -- stuff's so crazy schedule-wise that it's gonna be hard to make it here in time for certain rounds to nab the time-sensitive bonuses.

EDEdDNEdDYFaN 04-24-2008 12:02 AM

Re: Devonin's Critical Thinking Tourney Two
 
If only I had remembered this topic ;(, oh well got everything in for round one.

Tasselfoot 04-24-2008 04:31 AM

Re: Devonin's Critical Thinking Tourney Two
 
rubix... PM me your method? smartdude and i did it 2 different ways, curious if you did it a 3rd different way.

funmonkey54 04-24-2008 07:20 AM

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I have a kongregate!

Tasselfoot 04-24-2008 02:15 PM

Re: Devonin's Critical Thinking Tourney Two
 
voting for all 1st place ties to get rank 1... then the next lowest to get 7th (in this case). in the general case, all the rank 1s to get rank 1 points, but force the lower non-rank 1 into the spot that they would be if all the rank 1s were rated individually by speed to accomplish... 6 people all have exactly 750k, so the next score that isn't exactly 750k should be 7th.

and, IIRC, this is how you did it for your previous tournament... for the FFR portion. it should be how it's done here.

PlayTrumpet 04-24-2008 03:00 PM

Re: Devonin's Critical Thinking Tourney Two
 
Resubmitted with my 750k score. I wonder how other people did it. My way seems the simplest, I'm just curious if Tass used it. =P

devonin 04-24-2008 03:04 PM

Re: Devonin's Critical Thinking Tourney Two
 
The issue people had last time was that anyone who couldn't AAA the songs was getting completely hosed on points, because the second best score was putting them into the 3rd or 4th score range. The points were like "first gets X" "2nd through 5th Gets Y" "6th through 10ths gets Z" And the scores went as you're describing, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 6, 6, 6, 9 etc.

There were complaints from the people who weren't super good at FFR that it was extra mean because AAAing both got you maximum points and pushed everyone else down into lower points.

You're only seeing it as a problem here because I made the round less difficult to complete maximally than I could have. If future rounds are harder to just have "One or more easy maximal solutions" that 6 or 7 people all get, there will be much less to complain about.

devonin 04-24-2008 03:11 PM

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There's the difference in standings currently using Tasselfoot's suggested method.

Code:

Tasselfoot            1750            1                    1*
Smartdude1212          1600            1                    1*
Fractal_Monkey        1600            1                    1*
MrRubix                1600            1                    1*
EDEdDNEdDYFaN          1600            1                    1*
PlayTrumpet            1600            1                    1*
Jonathanasdf          1500            1                    1*
Jerry_DB              1100            1                    *

Emerald000              750                                  1
EI_Tizzy                600                                  1
Dooey100                600                                  1*
Commandersa1            600                                  1*
sumzup                  500                                  1
sc979                  500                                  1
darkness3608            100                                  *
funmonkey54            100                                  *

Code:

Tasselfoot            1750            1                    1*
Smartdude1212          1600            1                    1*
Fractal_Monkey        1600            1                    1*
MrRubix                1600            1                    1*
EDEdDNEdDYFaN          1600            1                    1*
PlayTrumpet            1600            1                    1*
Jerry_DB              1100            1                    *
Jonathanasdf          1078            1                    1*

Emerald000              750                                  1
EI_Tizzy                600                                  1
Dooey100                600                                  1*
Commandersa1            600                                  1*
sumzup                  500                                  1
sc979                  500                                  1
darkness3608            100                                  *
funmonkey54            100                                  *


Tasselfoot 04-24-2008 03:19 PM

Re: Devonin's Critical Thinking Tourney Two
 
i assume future rounds will be harder to perfect, if not impossible. in those rounds it will have much less impact.

but, if you have a race, and 8 people tie exactly in score, the 9th place person isn't given 2nd. he's given 9th.

just because that person is CLOSE... they still don't deserve 2nd place points when 6+ people did better than they did. if it was ordered by speed after score, they'd be getting their 7th place or whatever anyway.

EI_Tizzy 04-24-2008 05:08 PM

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1000% agree. Also, 750,000 get.

jonathanasdf 04-24-2008 07:41 PM

Re: Devonin's Critical Thinking Tourney Two
 
eww but I really cant PA 400+ notes..... ugh. and If you don't know what you're going to get setting up a strategy won't work, because I know how to do it, its really easy to do, but I can't the PAs.

Tasselfoot 04-24-2008 08:04 PM

Re: Devonin's Critical Thinking Tourney Two
 
ok. so you have a lack of skill at FFR that is preventing you from getting 750k on the nose. you should be sufficiently penalized for that.

also, jon... going to PM you some suggestions for getting it... feeling nice.

smartdude1212 04-24-2008 08:08 PM

Re: Devonin's Critical Thinking Tourney Two
 
So how did you get your 750k Tass?

Tasselfoot 04-24-2008 08:11 PM

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I'll tell you over AIM. And PMed Jon with some advice.

PlayTrumpet 04-24-2008 08:11 PM

Re: Devonin's Critical Thinking Tourney Two
 
Hey, someone ask me. I feel left out. =(

emerald000 04-24-2008 08:17 PM

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I should now be in first place. It probably won't say like this forever, but I am glad to be for now.


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