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TheKillerBigMac 02-23-2004 04:05 PM

Wow, draft...
 
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military draft, selective services given 28 million Posted: Feb 18, 2004 11:14 AM Reply

$28 million has been added to the 2004 Selective Service System (SSS)
budget to prepare for a military draft that could start as early as
June 15, 2005. SSS must report to Bush on March 31, 2005 that the
system, which has lain dormant for decades, is ready for activation.
Please see website: www.sss.gov/perfplan_fy2004.html
<http://www.sss.gov/perfplan_fy2004.html>
<http://www.sss.gov/perfplan_fy2004.html to view the SSS
Annual Performance Plan - Fiscal Year 2004.
The Pentagon has quietly begun a public campaign to fill all 10,350
draft board positions and 11,070 appeals board slots nationwide..
Though this is an unpopular election year topic, military experts and
influential members of Congress are suggesting that if Rumsfeld's
prediction of a "long, hard slog" in Iraq and Afghanistan [and a
permanent state of war on "terrorism"] proves accurate, the U.S. may
have no choice but to draft.
http://www.informationclearinghouse....rticle5146.htm
<http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article5146.htm>
<http://www.informationclearinghouse....rticle5146.htm

Congress brought twin bills, S. 89 and H.R. 163 forward this year,
entitled the Universal National Service Act of 2003, "To provide for
the common defense by requiring that all young persons [age 18--26] in
the United States, including women, perform a period of military
service or a period of civilian service in furtherance of the
national defense and homeland security, and for other purposes." These
active bills currently sit in the Committee on Armed Services.


Dodging the draft will be more difficult than those from the Vietnam
era remember. College and Canada will not be options. In December 2001,
Canada and the US signed a "Smart Border Declaration," which could be
used to keep would-be draft dodgers in. Signed by Canada's Minister of
Foreign Affairs, John Manley, and US Homeland Security Director, Gov.
Tom Ridge, the declaration involves a 30-point plan which implements,
among other things, a "pre-clearance agreement" of people entering and
departing each country. Reforms aimed at making the draft more
equitable along gender and class lines also eliminates higher education
as a shelter. Underclassmen would only be able to postpone service
until the end of their current semester. Seniors would have until the
end of the academic year.

I found this in a thread in the SOAD forum. Wow, a draft. Kinda scary, for me at least. How do you feel about this?

If you wanna see the thread, here ya go. http://forums.sonymusic.com/thread.j...rt=0&trange=15

soccr743 02-23-2004 04:18 PM

Wow I am only 15 now but i think it is very scary because it is like signing yourself up to die...

If people wanted to risk their lives for their country by going into war then that is their own choice and it should not be the governments. I think that they should let people in college stay there because they are trying to learn.

I am against the draft completely and would choose to move over sees if someday I got drafted, which will hopefully not happen...


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Freak83 02-23-2004 05:07 PM

Re: Wow, draft...
 
Quote:

Dodging the draft will be more difficult than those from the Vietnam
era remember. College and Canada will not be options. In December 2001,
Canada and the US signed a "Smart Border Declaration," which could be
used to keep would-be draft dodgers in. Signed by Canada's Minister of
Foreign Affairs, John Manley, and US Homeland Security Director, Gov.
Tom Ridge,
This part confuses me, is it saying the USA will draft people right out of College and Canada or they won't. I personally don't see anyone in Canadian government allowing the USA to draft out of Canada.

The other thing is that you can't believe everything you read onine. I wouldn't believe any of this without any official word from the newspaper or official TV news stations.

VxDx 02-23-2004 05:28 PM

I wouldn't mind getting drafted to support the country.

makaveli121212 02-23-2004 05:37 PM

im all for it...there is no greater honor than protecting your loved ones and your country

Privateer 02-24-2004 12:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by makaveli121212
im all for it...there is no greater honor than protecting your loved ones and your country

Aren't those one in the same?

Brainmaster07 02-24-2004 12:54 AM

Drafting people from college... sounds a little counter-productive. It's the people in college that are going to go somewhere and move the country forward, putting them in harms way seems a bit odd...

Why can't we just live in peace dangit :P.

SephirothFF7 02-24-2004 06:37 AM

I've got nothing to worry about...Noone I know will get drafted, my good friends older brother is in the army right now, but he'll still be in his PJ training during the draft..

Specforces 02-24-2004 07:03 AM

The "real" draft will not be enacted in all of your lives, the military is completely volunteer as of now, and there is a large amount as it is, the only time we will need a draft is if some "superpower" invades us. And considering that we are the superpower, I don't see this happening. Besides, if you were drafted, you'd better serve you damn country with pride, not doing so would make you hypocritical. This country offers more then you think, if you don't like it then fuckin leave. Go to some other country, who cares we don't need any more draft dodging assholes.

Happy Trails,

SpecForces

Lupin_the_3rd 02-24-2004 07:17 AM

i hope i get drafted into the airforce so i can tickle specforces!

Specforces 02-24-2004 07:20 AM

Sure, buddy, but no, not really. Unless you are an insanely hot girl, judging by your syntax I would have to say no.

Specforces 02-24-2004 07:31 AM

Everyone should be able to fight, if need be, but I know where you are coming from, most wars today are faught for the wrong reasons.

SpookG 02-24-2004 07:33 AM

You are misunderstanding the point of a draft if you think those in college should be immune...

One reason for dissent over Vietnam was why should the rich people who can afford college not be forced into service and sent to die? We are all Americans, and if someone has to go, it shouldn't be selective on what you're doing. the only inhibitor should be if you are, or if you aren't, physical able to handle combat.

Personally, I don't believe in a draft. If they need to institute a draft in order to make people fight, then we shouldn't be fighting there.

I would of signed up to fight for WW2, but I wouldn't fight in Vietnam, and I would probably not volunteer for service in Iraq. I would defend my country, but I can't do so blindly. I respect anyone who volunteers for service or has fought in a war tremendously, but i could never bring myself to do it unless I could agree with the reasons I am being asked to fight.

Specforces 02-24-2004 08:12 AM

And that was supposed to be down here, hmm.

Anonymous 02-24-2004 02:51 PM

they should just draft all the bums that live in the woods behind my house. that could be a couple of platoons.

87x 02-24-2004 03:03 PM

i agree with spook... i cant really fight to fight... if i don't like the reason or support it.. im not really going to want to fight.. but if i do get sent out and I have to fight for survival.. then it going to be me over anyone else..

makaveli121212 02-24-2004 04:19 PM

wise statement spook, very well said...i dont 100% agree but if the whole country wants to go to war, im not going to 'chicken out'...as many people that ducked the drafts were looked upon as...and arent there many rules saying why you cannot be drafted...of course there is an age range, but i think if youre the only one in your family name, or the only son, or a son of a vet that died in combat or something you dont have to go

Specforces 02-26-2004 03:11 PM

Good man, I agree totally, if you live in this country you should serve in it's Armed Forces.

sponge008 02-26-2004 07:48 PM

OK, aren't we a little beyond killing our neighbors? I mean come on! We're supposed to be civilized here. If we were invaded by some other country though, unlike in all other cases, I would be at the recruiting office in a jiffy.

makaveli121212 02-26-2004 07:50 PM

always deal the first blow, strike first...dont leave yourself open to attack...


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