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Specforces 02-17-2004 07:06 AM

Catholic priests are at it again....
 
http://www.cnn.com/2004/US/02/16/ch...buse/index.html



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NEW YORK (CNN) -- Children accused more than 4,000 priests of sexual abuse between 1950 and 2002, according to a draft survey commissioned by the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops.

The survey, to be released February 27, found that children made more than 11,000 allegations of sexual abuse by priests. The 4,450 accused priests represent about 4 percent of the 110,000 priests who served during the 52 years covered by the study.

The report is based on a nationwide survey of church records, and was compiled by the John Jay College of Criminal Justice for the conference. The bishops' conference commissioned the survey to get a better understanding of the scope of the crisis.

CNN reviewed a draft copy of the survey. Officials said it may be slightly changed before its release.

More than half of the accused priests had only one allegation against them. Nearly 25 percent, or 1,112 priests, had two or three allegations, and almost 13 percent, or 578 priests, had four to nine allegations, according to the draft report. Nearly 3 percent, or 133 of the priests, had 10 or more allegations.

The report said that 6,700 of the 11,000 allegations were investigated and substantiated, and another 1,000 were unsubstantiated. The remaining 3,300 were not investigated because the priests involved had died by the time the allegation was made.

The director of the Survivors Network of Those Abused by Priests said Monday that the survey's numbers are low.

"Bishops have tried to hide this for years, so there is no reason to believe all of a sudden they would change their ways," David Clohessy said. "The only prudent thing to do is to assume this is not the entire truth. This is a survey, not a report or investigation."

SNAP, founded in 1989, describes itself on its Web site as the nation's largest, oldest and most active support group for people victimized by religious authority figures.

The president of the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops issued a written statement calling the reports "a very sobering and important milestone."

"I have not seen the reports, and so I cannot comment on their substance," the statement from Bishop Wilton D. Gregory said. "But I want to reaffirm that the bishops requested these studies so that we could understand as fully as possible what caused this terrible occurrence in the life of our community to make sure that it never happens again.

"My heart goes out to all who have suffered, and I assure them especially that the bishops are committed to fully implementing the Dallas Charter and will continue to work with the Office of Child and Youth Protection and the National Review Board to reach out to victims and prevent such abuse from occurring in the future," Gregory's statement said.

The Dallas Charter is a plan developed by the council in 2002 to protect children from sex abuse by priests.

The head of Voice of the Faithful, a Catholic group formed in response to the priest sex abuse scandal, says some important information is missing from the draft of the report.

"Although it counts the number of children who have been abused, the number of priests who have abused children, the total financial cost to the church, it does not chronicle the number of bishops who knowingly re-assigned priests who had abused children," said Steve Krueger.

"Without that kind of investigation, there can be no accountability," Krueger said.

The editor of the National Catholic Reporter agreed the church scandal is not just about sex.

"This has long ceased to be just a scandal about sex abuse. It's a scandal about abuse of power and trust, and a breech of faith with people," said Tom Roberts.

Bill Burleigh, a member of the conference's National Review Board, said he would not comment until the survey is released. No clergy serve on the review board.

According to the survey, 78 percent of those abused were between 11 and 17, 16 percent were 8 to 10, and nearly 6 percent were 7 or younger.

The survey also said that several factors contributed to the problem, including failure to grasp its gravity, overemphasis on the avoidance of scandal, use of unqualified treatment centers, misguided willingness to forgive and insufficient accountability.

More than 44,000 priests serve in the United States, according to the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops.

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That's almost 10%.

Specforces 02-17-2004 07:07 AM

I meant 4%.

alainbryden 02-17-2004 08:43 AM

Sex deprivation will make you go crazy and do scary things to children :P

Specforces 02-17-2004 09:10 AM

Yes, these crazy Catholics, what will they think of next.

LifesEagle 02-19-2004 08:22 AM

Hey, shut up I'm Catholic!!!

A priest at my church got arrested for hurting a woman, but all he did was take her arm and show her the door. PLUS if he HAD abused her, she was holding her CAR KEYS so wouldn't she have some protection? She didn't even try to defend herself, which is proof he's innocent. But he was arrested all the same. He used to do this:

*thumbs up* LIEK DEES, LIEK JESUS!

He talked with a funny accent because he's from Africa.

Specforces 02-19-2004 09:07 AM

Haha, ok, sorry about that coming off as an insult to Catholism as a whole. But you have to realize there is bit of a conspiracy afoot.

C104K3D 02-25-2004 09:24 PM

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PLUS if he HAD abused her, she was holding her CAR KEYS so wouldn't she have some protection?
I don't think car keys are designed for selfdefense, but rather starting one's car o.O

ZEROED 02-25-2004 09:28 PM

u can stab someones eye out with car keys

C104K3D 02-25-2004 09:35 PM

And you can stab someones eyes out with ur fingas :D

Sinjin 02-25-2004 11:27 PM

Try being celibate and abstaining from masturbation for more than two decades. Then you can start opening your fucking big-shot mouth about the Catholic religion.

Anonymous 02-26-2004 05:45 AM

The Catholic Church is about as uncorrupt as The Russian Government....I ht ink I've made my point!

BluE_MeaniE 02-26-2004 09:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Sinjin
Try being celibate and abstaining from masturbation for more than two decades. Then you can start opening your fucking big-shot mouth about the Catholic religion.

That's no excuse. You can't justify it by saying "Oh, well, come on, people, it's hard to stay celibate, just cut them some slack."
Sure it's hard, but that has nothing to do with it.

Cenright 02-27-2004 01:18 AM

Don't they supposedly have God's blessing? Well obviously they aren't praying well enough, because it isn't working.

alextrebek 02-27-2004 02:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Sinjin
Try being celibate and abstaining from masturbation for more than two decades. Then you can start opening your fucking big-shot mouth about the Catholic religion.

Well, why is celibacy required in the first place? Why should abstaining from all things sexual be required? Sex is a natural thing, a need in our society. Too little sex can seriously mess with someone. Why does catholocism say that the priests must do something which experimentally has a 4% chance of making them abuse children? Why can't they just marry and be allowed to have the same sexual rights as everyone else? Revoking someone's right to have sex is like revoking their right to sleep. It's like saying, "Ok, you're a big important holy person who brings the word of God to everyone; now don't sleep. Sleeping is bad. Sleeping is sin." It makes no sense why the rule has to exist.

Specforces 02-27-2004 07:02 AM

Tradition my friend, and most priests have never probably followed it anyway. Man isn't perfect.


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