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purebloodtexan 04-7-2007 07:18 PM

Trying out a somewhat new shading style.
 
Despite me having a completely outdated version of Elements, I'd say that this is pretty decent.



I'm going to try to get back into the comic works. In all honesty, high school and adjusting to this computer almost made me forget about comics. This is just a small piece of the comic, it's nowhere near done.

edit: I guess I'll shade the DS later.

DigitalS3r4ph 04-7-2007 07:25 PM

Re: Trying out a somewhat new shading style.
 
Pillow shading, Yuck. :confused:

beaner692 04-7-2007 07:27 PM

Re: Trying out a somewhat new shading style.
 
thats the biggest forhead ive ever seen lol

purebloodtexan 04-7-2007 07:34 PM

Re: Trying out a somewhat new shading style.
 
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Originally Posted by DigitalS3r4ph (Post 1432200)
Pillow shading, Yuck. :confused:

Beg your pardon?

Quote:

thats the biggest forhead ive ever seen lol
Yeah, my "motherstyle" is characters with huge heads. Call it chibi if you want.

DigitalS3r4ph 04-7-2007 11:33 PM

Re: Trying out a somewhat new shading style.
 
You've shaded all of the outer areas of the person, resulting in making him look like a sort of soft 'pillow' or something. It's a really amateur technique that should be quickly ditched. Try pretending there's a light source somewhere in front of the Toon, and then base your shading on what you would believe that light would cause.

purebloodtexan 04-7-2007 11:38 PM

Re: Trying out a somewhat new shading style.
 
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Originally Posted by DigitalS3r4ph (Post 1433037)
You've shaded all of the outer areas of the person, resulting in making him look like a sort of soft 'pillow' or something. It's a really amateur technique that should be quickly ditched. Try pretending there's a light source somewhere in front of the Toon, and then base your shading on what you would believe that light would cause.

I find that not only does it look decent (and to many others who have seen my work), but it also gives me less work as well. Notice that there are 3 noticeable layers of color. As you know, the brush is a vector-based tool, and when you shade within the brush area, there will be a huge line of shaded pixels. What better to do than to draw over them with a color between the outer shade and filling shade.

I've tried light sources, and I didn't like it at all.

DigitalS3r4ph 04-7-2007 11:47 PM

Re: Trying out a somewhat new shading style.
 
You need to do the extra bit of work to get the cool effects you want. I'm surprised you're in High School yet you haven't realized that.

purebloodtexan 04-7-2007 11:59 PM

Re: Trying out a somewhat new shading style.
 
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Originally Posted by DigitalS3r4ph (Post 1433066)
You need to do the extra bit of work to get the cool effects you want. I'm surprised you're in High School yet you haven't realized that.

OK, my apologies if I sound rude, but you almost hit the funny bone there. Go ahead an say that I can't absorb criticism, but I felt as I was pushed over just then.

First off, what does my age have to do with your ideas of photoshop skill? Hell, I've only been doing actual drawings in PS for a few months, but I can't see how age has anything to do with supposed skill. Two, I tried to do that extra bit of work to get the "cool" effects I realized I didn't want. As crappy as it looked, it took even longer than the drawing style I'm doing right now, which looks a whole lot better compared to my "light-effect" drawings.

You shouldn't try to relate age with supposed art skills. I've seen high schoolers who are older than me, have had as many years of drawing, and can't draw as well.

DigitalS3r4ph 04-8-2007 01:19 AM

Re: Trying out a somewhat new shading style.
 
I've seen 12 year olds with skill that rivals most concept artists that sell prints at anime conventions.

I'm glad to have struck your funny bone, still doesn't change the fact that your technique sucks in my honest opinion.

purebloodtexan 04-8-2007 10:02 AM

Re: Trying out a somewhat new shading style.
 
I'm not sure how they do it where you live, but all the kids that I see doing anime did it out of a book first, not just drawing on their own.

darkshark 04-9-2007 04:42 PM

Re: Trying out a somewhat new shading style.
 
I'm sorry texan, but seraph is right, I'd recommend taking a traditional art class so that you can learn about light sources and shading first, then transfer those skills to photoshop, because even for a comic, it looks too bland, the shading doesn't really look like shading at all, just a poorly colored outline or something.

Try looking online for a few different shading techniques, find one that you can do fast and easy, but still looks good at the same time, because although YOU might find your technique attractive, I'm sure not too many others think the same way, find what works best for you and run with it. ^_^

purebloodtexan 04-9-2007 06:01 PM

Re: Trying out a somewhat new shading style.
 
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Originally Posted by darkshark (Post 1441209)
I'm sorry texan, but seraph is right, I'd recommend taking a traditional art class so that you can learn about light sources and shading first, then transfer those skills to photoshop, because even for a comic, it looks too bland, the shading doesn't really look like shading at all, just a poorly colored outline or something.

Try looking online for a few different shading techniques, find one that you can do fast and easy, but still looks good at the same time, because although YOU might find your technique attractive, I'm sure not too many others think the same way, find what works best for you and run with it. ^_^

There's no way in hell I'm taking any art class. Although it's considered better, but not only is the lighting crap just a complete waste of my time to make my art look worse, but all art classes that I see will completely cut me off from my style of art. Someone might suggest changes to my shading style, but definitely not my way of drawing.

darkshark 04-11-2007 03:03 AM

Re: Trying out a somewhat new shading style.
 
Thanks for being so open minded, art classes teach you the fundamentals of form and detail, shading included, they only teach you the skills, it's up to you how you use them, so it won't detract from your style at all, just improve upon it.

purebloodtexan 04-11-2007 05:54 PM

Re: Trying out a somewhat new shading style.
 
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Originally Posted by darkshark (Post 1446309)
Thanks for being so open minded, art classes teach you the fundamentals of form and detail, shading included, they only teach you the skills, it's up to you how you use them, so it won't detract from your style at all, just improve upon it.

Not the ones in the Austin metro area, no.

Cj_leonine 04-11-2007 06:02 PM

Re: Trying out a somewhat new shading style.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by darkshark (Post 1446309)
Thanks for being so open minded, art classes teach you the fundamentals of form and detail, shading included, they only teach you the skills, it's up to you how you use them, so it won't detract from your style at all, just improve upon it.

Lol, You've never been to my art class. We read out of a book that has a few assignments for each chapter dealing with a different element of art. We get no criticism or help from our teacher whatsoever.

MooMoo_Cowfreak 04-11-2007 06:09 PM

Re: Trying out a somewhat new shading style.
 
It's alright.

And find a class that's right for you when you move out.

You can go anywhere you want and then you can take a good art class. I too have heard about the crappy Texas art classes.


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