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Armadegon 02-10-2007 11:15 PM

Smoking as a Public Health Issue
 
Smoking is a constant anoyance, from the dangers of second hand smoke to very real chalenges of avoiding falling off the cliff and onto the slippery slope of nicotine usage. There are several things I can think of that could reduce smoking without completely banning it. Feel free to post your feelings on any of them or on the issue of tabbaco usage in genral.

1. Ban or limit adveretising of tobacco products. This would reduce the ways that tobbaco buisnesses could tempt young people into smoking. A deffinite option and one that would have minimal impact on any industry other than tobbaco.
2. A special tax on tobbaco products. Driving up the cost would help fund our government and provide another incentive to stay off of tabaco. Kill two birds with one stone.
3.Ban smoking in certain areas like cars and subway stations. No real affect on industry or smokers but would reduce the amount of second hand smoke.
4.Do nothing. This would... Do nothing. Suprise.

Voila. Please feel free to coment or state another way that smoking could be reduced.

ToshX 02-10-2007 11:20 PM

Re: Smoking as a Public Health Issue
 
Smoking is banned in many public places, and they already have special taxes on tobacco products, I think. I'm not certain, though, as I've never smoked and never will. It's already hard enough to breathe behind a smoker, and it smells terrible, so there's no way I'd start.

Also, limiting advertising might come across as unconstitutional to some people. You have to remember, this is America. People, well, they like to get what they want.

Kilroy_x 02-10-2007 11:21 PM

Re: Smoking as a Public Health Issue
 
3 is good, the others are unacceptable.

ToshX 02-10-2007 11:24 PM

Re: Smoking as a Public Health Issue
 
Are you both certain that 2 isn't already happening?

Kilroy_x 02-10-2007 11:25 PM

Re: Smoking as a Public Health Issue
 
Both 1 and 2 are, I just don't approve of them.

super kid 02-10-2007 11:25 PM

Re: Smoking as a Public Health Issue
 
3 is a good choice.

roundbox 02-10-2007 11:26 PM

Re: Smoking as a Public Health Issue
 
I don't care about advertising. Raising the special tax just pisses them off even more. I just think it should be banned in public places. If they're going to kill themselves, at least make them do it in their own place.

RandomPscho 02-10-2007 11:45 PM

Re: Smoking as a Public Health Issue
 
In New York (I think all over the state -- I know centrel NY it is) smoking in public facilities is illegal. This includes bars, restaurants, stadiums, libraries, schools. Parks are ok, but now they are thinking of banning smoking outside of hospitals.

Kilroy_x 02-10-2007 11:48 PM

Re: Smoking as a Public Health Issue
 
Bars, restaurants and stadiums aren't public facilities. It should be left up to the individual owners in those cases.

Evascythe 02-10-2007 11:53 PM

Re: Smoking as a Public Health Issue
 
Smoking should be banned from everywhere and every place in the world.
CIGARETTES SHOULD BE ABOLISHED.

Kilroy_x 02-11-2007 12:00 AM

Re: Smoking as a Public Health Issue
 
Yeah, you tell the world what they can't do. There's nothing as unforgivable as freedom to do stupid things, especially when they don't hurt others.

Evascythe 02-11-2007 12:05 AM

Re: Smoking as a Public Health Issue
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Kilroy_x (Post 1176668)
Yeah, you tell the world what they can't do. There's nothing as unforgivable as freedom to do stupid things, especially when they don't hurt others.

........................
Did you just say smoking doesn't hurt others?
If so, you sir, are a complete moron.

Doug31 02-11-2007 12:05 AM

Re: Smoking as a Public Health Issue
 
I'm so against cigarettes that I voted for all of the choices except nothing. I'm really bothered by all the people I see smoking at my school.

Edit: And yes, smoking does hurt others, and I've heard the secondary smoke that comes out is about 4x as bad as the other smoke that goes through the filter.

Kilroy_x 02-11-2007 12:06 AM

Re: Smoking as a Public Health Issue
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Evascythe (Post 1176682)
........................
Did you just say smoking doesn't hurt others?
If so, you sir, are a complete moron.

It doesn't hurt others when it's done in the privacy of ones own home, or in a location where everyone knows and accepts that smoking is going to occur.

Kilroy_x 02-11-2007 12:07 AM

Re: Smoking as a Public Health Issue
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Doug31 (Post 1176683)
I'm so against cigarettes that I voted for all of the choices except nothing. I'm really bothered by all the people I see smoking at my school.

Edit: And yes, smoking does hurt others, and I've heard the secondary smoke that comes out is about 4x as bad as the other smoke that goes through the filter.

I'm aware of this. Smoking at school is unacceptable because a school is a public establishment, but preventing people from doing things that only hurt themselves is an unneccessary abridgement of freedom.

Evascythe 02-11-2007 12:08 AM

Re: Smoking as a Public Health Issue
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Kilroy_x (Post 1176689)
It doesn't hurt others when it's done in the privacy of ones own home, or in a location where everyone knows and accepts that smoking is going to occur.

Yeah, because smoking in a house full of non-smokers is cool.
Are you famaliar with the terms "second-hand smoke", "death", "lung disease", or "cancer"?

Kilroy_x 02-11-2007 12:10 AM

Re: Smoking as a Public Health Issue
 
Are you familiar with the legal concept "volenti non fit injuria"?

Evascythe 02-11-2007 12:11 AM

Re: Smoking as a Public Health Issue
 
Indeed I am.

Kilroy_x 02-11-2007 12:12 AM

Re: Smoking as a Public Health Issue
 
Are you aware of how that applies here?

Evascythe 02-11-2007 12:14 AM

Re: Smoking as a Public Health Issue
 
Anyone willing to have smoke blown in their face is a moron.


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