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Redorigami 01-28-2007 01:21 PM

Existence
 
This has been bothering me a lot recently. Basically, assuming that there isn't a god, where do you think the world came from? Even if it was there since the dawn of time, it had to have come from something. And then, what exactly could there have been before that, and what is to come afterwards? I pretty much have no opinions on these matters right now so I would like to know what all of you think.

RB_Dreamscanner 01-28-2007 01:31 PM

Re: Existence
 
red,this is what we all ask ourselves all the time,no one has a clue,nor an answer.everyone would like an answer but this will just stay as a great huge mysterie.if anyone at all knew,just one person,why would we be asking? that person would tell one person,who would tell 2,who would tell 4 and so on.if we knew teh truth we would all be happy,but this mysterie pisses me off more then a game of fvcking chess when im stuck in a check and cant find that one fvucking move to get out of it.

GOD!!

Redorigami 01-28-2007 01:35 PM

Re: Existence
 
I didn't wan't the answer to life, I wanted opinions. If all of the topics on this board had definite answers that people knew then there would be no use in the critical thinking forum at all.

RB_Dreamscanner 01-28-2007 01:36 PM

Re: Existence
 
well u retard if u ya read it enough ull realize its an opinion form

GuidoHunter 01-28-2007 02:00 PM

Re: Existence
 
RB_Dreamscanner: Five days for flaming in CT and a hairsbreadth away from an extra day or two for poor orthography.

Religiously, the beginning of the universe is quite well-explained.
Scientifically, we have come to understand that there is absolutely no way we can even wager a guess.

So take your pick, but there really can't be much critical thinking in such a discussion.

--Guido

http://andy.mikee385.com

Pippin667 01-28-2007 04:18 PM

Re: Existence
 
Have you ever thought about pure nothingness? Well you cant because the "word" the "though" and the "idea" of nothing is there. And that is the beginning and the end.

So said Pippin in his diary 19:23

lol

x6tence 01-28-2007 04:48 PM

Re: Existence
 
There is a god(and he loves you and me just alike) thats why I x6ist...

Pippin667 01-28-2007 04:49 PM

Re: Existence
 
This is a personal thing and i dont really think it needs to be said but i dont believe that statement one bit.

Wootsicle 02-1-2007 08:21 PM

Re: Existence
 
Hah, it's completely worthless arguing this situation at all. No one can prove any of it true.. No one can prove any of it false. Good luck with that. BTW, if there is a God, quite simply asking, where did he come from? Did he create himself? Oh boy I hate that paradox. The chicken and the egg, so to speak. ^_~

acknerr 02-1-2007 08:31 PM

Re: Existence
 
It's something I often ponder. The fact of the matter is, no one will truly know the answer as to why we are here and how everything started. Perhaps the meaning of life is merely to question its existence ^_^

1337h4xz0r 02-1-2007 08:43 PM

Re: Existence
 
I honestly don't see the point in wondering about it =/ you live, then you die. knowing the answer to that doesn't matter.

just like why everyone wonders what we could be capable of if we used the other 90% of our brain...

I know everyone's opinon is different about it.. and either way, no one can be right.

Darkstalker_X 02-1-2007 09:22 PM

Re: Existence
 
To live is a pleasure, to die is another.

Humans have always been wondering to themselves how did they come to an existance, what was the fact or cause that brought us all here, yet to us, there is no known reason.

Armadegon 02-3-2007 02:47 PM

Re: Existence
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Darkstalker_X (Post 1146105)
To live is a pleasure, to die is another.

Humans have always been wondering to themselves how did they come to an existance, what was the fact or cause that brought us all here, yet to us, there is no known reason.

Speaking as a devotee to logic I am perpetualy a victim of this wondering. However we do not know that the earth exists, we do not know that FFR exists and we do not know that the bible even exsists. In fact from your perspective I might not exist and from my perspective you may not exist. In a moment I could wake up and find this was one long dream and remember that I do know how the universe was created and I actualy just dreamed this whole thing up.

Life is short - enjoy it while you can - If you exist

T3hDDRKid 02-3-2007 09:27 PM

Re: Existence
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Armadegon (Post 1152090)
Speaking as a devotee to logic I am perpetualy a victim of this wondering. However we do not know that the earth exists, we do not know that FFR exists and we do not know that the bible even exsists. In fact from your perspective I might not exist and from my perspective you may not exist. In a moment I could wake up and find this was one long dream and remember that I do know how the universe was created and I actualy just dreamed this whole thing up.

Life is short - enjoy it while you can - If you exist

Stop talking psychobabble. This isn't "Do we exist?", it's "How?" Maybe one day you'll wake up. If you do, you'll know then. Until now, we're going on the assumption that we do, in fact, exist.

Personally, I'm Christian and I believe that God created the universe. Religious beliefs aside, however, I find the Big Bang Theory improbable. The largest problem is simply where would the matter come from in the first place? Scientists say everything created because "Boom!", a singularity exploded. And.. the singularity came from where? Also, while I don't completely understand this [I haven't been to college for years to study it], but from what I understand from the research that has been done, the force of the explosion and the gravity keeping everything together after the explosion was very finely tuned. If the balance was tipped just a little one way or the other, everything would be spread out gases or a condensed ball of matter.

I don't mind if you don't think God created everything, but please don't say "thats stoopid, yer stoopid, gods not real" Not everybody believes, and it's fine with me, but the people who only come in with a one-liner like that annoy me ^^

Also, if anybody has read Angels & Demons by Dan Brown, it has an interesting concept similar to this. While it's fictional, in the book scientists use a 28-mile diameter particle accelerator to smash atoms together and actually create matter, along with anti-matter [another interesting topic in itself.] It's a good book.

denton_12 02-4-2007 06:35 PM

Re: Existence
 
Some people see life differently than others. Some see it as a menance that should be ended, some see life as something great that should be shared. Some people are cold, others are fun and light-hearted, but there is no one the same. There may be strong similarities between two individuals, but there are no EXACT copies.

I see life a lot differently than most people. I try to break down everyday like a scientist breaks down a proceduare to find out exactly what it is. I've come to realize that life is nothing more than experiences and reactions. Everything you encounter is an experience, driving, running, breathing. Anything that you can think of is an experience and it's these experiences that make up your life. The way that you react to experiences that you encounter is what makes you who you are, or your "character" so to speak.

Is there a god? I don't kno wthe answer to that question, which is the reason I don't try to force my religion on people. Do I think there is a god? Absolutely. Another part of my theory begins here. The way that I react to experiences is my judgement when I reach Heaven. I'm being judged right now as I write this, and if you're tryin got think what "experience" this is my reaction to, well, I started writing, and while writing, I reacted to my thoughts (which would be the experience, thinking)


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