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Turning back time
All right. I've been thinking about... what if I had a sort of magic clock or something that I could turn back time with?
Would I dare to use it then... 'Cause I don't think you can "remember the future". I mean, if I turn back time, I wouldn't remember that I had done that. And then I would probably turn back time again, at the same time I did it last time. And then again... and again... And me, and everything else would be stuck in some kind of "time trap" where the same thing happens over and over. Of course, noone would notice, cause noone would remember the future, but it's still kind of scary. What if you never could live your life fully :S And what if this actually is happening now, time turning back over and over. Maybe I've written this message... like 400 times by now? It doesn't hurt me, since I don't know but... what if? |
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Magic clocks don't exist...
But if you find one, don't use it. That's all. There won't be a "time trap"... And well, if one day there is a "time trap" or "time loop", we wouldn't notice it, so this is pointless to speak about it =) |
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This is pretty much off-topic, and I'm sorry since it is CT, but it just freaked me the heck out so I'm posting it.
I'm at my friend's house, and she was showing me this book called "Turn Back Time" and telling me I should read it. The name reminded me of that line in Komm Susser Todd, "I wish that I could turn back time"... so I was singing it. As I was doing this, I clicked my bookmark for FFR forums for the first time today, and the first thing I see is "Turning back time" in the most recent posts column. Wtf >_> Sorry. |
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You can turn back time! But not in that way.
In this universe, there is time, and for every moment of time, particles will be at some place. To go back through time, what you must do is bring all those particles to the position of that moment in time and you'll have technically, gone back in time. =\ I hope that makes sense. It's just my take on it. ~Tsugomaru |
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Tsugo, and so far we do not have the advanced technology needed to do so. :)
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Time isnt something that is a particle. Its just a concept. You cant travel through time it doesnt really exsist. |
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Right...
I never said that time was a particle. For every moment, there will be particles around. You are made up of particles! So for that moment of time, each and every particle will be at a certain spot and to move back to that moment, you need to move the particles to that certain spot. ~Tsugomaru |
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Those particles would also include everything in the brain and the way everything was, so nobody would remember and it would be exactly the same as going back in time.
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Well, most fiction doesn't involve the particular condundrum you speak of, but I think that that's because when people are turned back in time in fiction, its only time itself which the people travel through, and it is somehow disconnected from material world, in that the matter which the person is made of doesn't revert, and the person and objects remain moving forward in time, even as they travel backwards. And this is why there're multiples of 1 person when they travel back in time.
I guess that the difference between these 2 ideas of what happens if time travel were to occur, between usual sci-fi, and what DJoel said, is if time and matter can exist independantly of each other. If it can, then someone can travel back without having themselves revert to their previous selves. I think. I've never really thought about this before. Ohhh, there's a pretty damned good movie out there about some guys who make a time machine. I've only seen it once, and, well, I found it a little hard to follow, but I think I'm gonna watch it again at some point and notice things that weren't there before. Its cool, because you're not quite sure which iteration of time that comes up appears. In any case, the movie is called Primer, and here's one of the first links that I found for it. Rent it or something, it's a good movie. http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0390384/ |
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Well... you probably can't time travel, 'cause if someone ever discovers a method of doing this in the future and travels back in time, then he would've already been here right? And then we would know that a time traveling machine or something will be discovered in the future. But if it ever is going to be discovered, maybe they were smart enough to not let anyone know.
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I think that learning to travel into the future would be more plausible, even though I think time travel itself is not really plausible. All you'd have to do is find a way to slow down time for a certain section of space.
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Thecnichally you would remember that yo went back in time because, when you go back, you go back in world's time, and that's YOUR future. So if that's your future, after you travaled back in time you remember your past... Here's a lil' time paradox: The ball down the picture is going toward Port. 1, wich transports it in its own past, getting out of Port. 2, but if the ball that went back in the past hits the ball that was going to Port. 1 before it gets in it, it will deviate from its path and never enter Port. 1, but if it never enters Port. 1, it can't hit itself, so it will enter the Port. 1... ![]() |
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I ask, are we defining "time travel" as in the same thing happening again da ju vu; or like Cavernio said, it's more of a Back to the Future deal? |
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It literally is recreating that point of time. Time is not set, so it might not be Deja vu at all. People can make different decisions and such.
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If i could travel in time the way everyone thinks about, then i am almost absolutely positive i would have undid a couple of gianomous mistakes i have done. So... in the future i myself would have already gone back before right now, changed it, and it wouldnt have happened. Then again its all science fiction in that fashion and it would be nearly impossible at least for me.
The idea of using a particle accelerator to excite every particle in your body so that they moved extra fast wouldnt work either. If anything it would be like how einstein (i think) described it which would be that it would seem like everything else was moving twice as slow as you. All that would really do is make you very old extra fast which no one wants. Conclusion: Time travel as we think of it is very improbable and almost definitely impossible. |
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But what exactly is "Time"? we've yet to define it....pehaps then we will understand the thoerys better? |
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