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Cenright 12-10-2003 01:57 AM

yeah. but the sun first gets real big before it dies. That would consume us right there.

Brainmaster07 12-10-2003 02:04 AM

You know, when I was in like 2nd grade I lived in constant fear the Sun had blown up and I wouldn't know my fate for another 8 minutes :?.

makaveli121212 12-10-2003 06:40 AM

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Originally Posted by jewpinthethird
I was just about to mention the whole sun dying. Although, if the sun were to "die" you would know before those 8 mintues because of the sudden lack of gravitational pull, Earth would be send spiraling off into space like a sling shot. Not to mention the extremely large heat discharge that would scorn half the Earth.

WRONG...light travels faster than gravity, therefore you would not feel the lack of gravitational pull from the sun before the planet is already dark

Cenright 12-10-2003 03:29 PM

But I clarified that. And Brain. We can never see the big gang. If our galaxy was travelling away from it at a speed slower than the speed of light, it would have already reached us. How ever many lightyears away from something you are is how long it takes to it to get there. If our galaxy is going FASTER than the speed of light (I extremely doubt it), we would be running away from the light from the big bang and therefore, never see it. Then again, the we would not see ANY galaxies on that side of us either, and so it isn't true.

Moogy 12-10-2003 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by makaveli121212
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Originally Posted by jewpinthethird
I was just about to mention the whole sun dying. Although, if the sun were to "die" you would know before those 8 mintues because of the sudden lack of gravitational pull, Earth would be send spiraling off into space like a sling shot. Not to mention the extremely large heat discharge that would scorn half the Earth.

WRONG...light travels faster than gravity, therefore you would not feel the lack of gravitational pull from the sun before the planet is already dark

Completely wrong. I watched an interesting show on NOVA a while ago, about something called "String Theory". In the course of explaining this theory, it also disproved your point, I'm afraid.

So... yeah. Anyone else watch that show?

Cenright 12-10-2003 04:15 PM

I THINK I might have seen it, but it wouldn't remember anything well enough to know exactly. If I was shown it again, I would know if I had actually seen it. (Then again that doesn't help)

zajac 12-10-2003 04:19 PM

this is why i like the matrix so much because it really makes you think and there is no known definite answer.....

Anticrombie0909 12-10-2003 05:07 PM

This...really...has nothing to do with the Matrix.

So changing topics a bit...if the Universe truely is infinite, what happens after the Big Crunch (if you believe that theory)?

makaveli121212 12-10-2003 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Moogy
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Originally Posted by makaveli121212
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Originally Posted by jewpinthethird
I was just about to mention the whole sun dying. Although, if the sun were to "die" you would know before those 8 mintues because of the sudden lack of gravitational pull, Earth would be send spiraling off into space like a sling shot. Not to mention the extremely large heat discharge that would scorn half the Earth.

WRONG...light travels faster than gravity, therefore you would not feel the lack of gravitational pull from the sun before the planet is already dark

Completely wrong. I watched an interesting show on NOVA a while ago, about something called "String Theory". In the course of explaining this theory, it also disproved your point, I'm afraid.

So... yeah. Anyone else watch that show?

oh yeah absolutley i saw it...that is the most interesting flick ive seen...i actuallt mentioned string theory earlier in this thread...i dont know here, ibut if guys havent heard of it i suggest you check it out...btw the image of the Sun disappearing and the affect it would have on our plante light and gravity wise is very well illustrated

jewpinthethird 12-10-2003 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Anticrombie0909
This...really...has nothing to do with the Matrix.

So changing topics a bit...if the Universe truely is infinite, what happens after the Big Crunch (if you believe that theory)?

That would mean that the "universe" is not infinite.

VxDx 12-10-2003 06:47 PM

makaveli is kinda right, gravity travels at the speed of light.

Cenright 12-10-2003 06:57 PM

I thought gravity was a magnetic wave, making it slower because it isn't a light wave...

scorpio1690 12-10-2003 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by VxDx
makaveli is kinda right, gravity travels at the speed of light.

Gravity doesn't travel as a speed does it? It's just the pull of a massive object, the bigger something is, the more pull it has on things, and the closer you get to the large object, the faster you travel because you are being sucked into it's pull.... So gravity doesn't really travel, more or less, it's just a natural thing that's always there until you break free by going massive amounts of speed in the opposite direction. And gravity isn't caused by magnetic waves or pulses or whatever either is it? Cause if it was, one, computers wouldn't work at all, two, all metal objects would be stuck to the ground, and three, we would fly off the planet seeing how there is no metal at all in us. That's proven by catskans, if you go and get one and we did have metal in us we'd be ripped apart.

RobbyZero 12-10-2003 07:34 PM

Wow cool,I'd like to see tha happen. Anyways enough with this mumbo jumbo :P


I can believe that there immumerable worlds/dimensions/planets and such. Why not believe it?

QreepyBORIS 12-10-2003 07:51 PM

Gravity has speed.

Thus gravity waves, in space....

IAMTHEEVILBEAN 12-10-2003 07:53 PM

Yogurt on wheels moves to

very fast

scorpio1690 12-10-2003 08:23 PM

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Originally Posted by IAMTHEEVILBEAN
Yogurt on wheels moves to

very fast

If you can't say anything intelligent, shut the fuck up.

Explain these "gravity waves". Though, I was more talking along the lines of gravity on planets, what are these? Is it like when a Red Giant implodes creating a black hole and it's the speed of which the black holes gravity reaches a physical object to pull into it?

QreepyBORIS 12-10-2003 08:31 PM

Nice try, a red giant implodes into a blue giant....

VxDx 12-10-2003 08:32 PM

I'll see if I can find a link to a website about it...

http://csep10.phys.utk.edu/astr162/l...y/gravity.html

that's the site, but this pretty much sums it up...

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The electromagnetic field can have waves in it that carry energy and that we call light. Likewise, the gravitational field can have waves that carry energy and are called gravitational waves. These may be thought of as ripples in the curvature of spacetime that travel at the speed of light.

jewpinthethird 12-10-2003 08:35 PM

One theory about black holes are that when a star implodes, all it's mass is compressed until there is no longer any space between particles. Thus creating an object with such immense weight, that it actually bends the matter around it causing a sort of "pocket in space" (some how gravity is mixed into the equation). The gravity produced by the black hole is so great that not even light can escape it.

I dont know all the facts, but it was something along those lines.

http://archive.ncsa.uiuc.edu/Cyberia...GravWaves.html


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