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Animefreak999 06-21-2006 11:14 PM

Will we become one race soon?
 
i heard someone say that one day we'll all be the same race, but will we? will the cultures all become one? why am i asking so many questions on something so stupid?ok im rambling now

falconsfan14 06-21-2006 11:15 PM

Re: Will we become one race soon?
 
Nice southpark rip. And no.

Snowcrafta 06-21-2006 11:19 PM

Re: Will we become one race soon?
 
I am proudly going to say I will never breed with a minority.

Z3ratul 06-22-2006 12:01 AM

Re: Will we become one race soon?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by falconsfan14
Nice southpark rip. And no.

This has been thought up of WAY before SP. Unfortunately though, I'm not schooled on this subject and I'm too lazy to search Wiki for ten minutes to formulate a pathetic viewpoint, so I'll wait for the obligatory aperson / Reach / (intellectual person) post.

MiniNeo 06-22-2006 12:31 AM

Re: Will we become one race soon?
 
I think the answer is yes, eventually. People will become more open-minded and races will start to mix until we are all beige. (Rofl russell peter refrence)

T0rajir0u 06-22-2006 12:31 AM

Re: Will we become one race soon?
 
this question is dumb because it presupposes the existence of race

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Race

edit: the other problem is that a lot of people are poor and dont have the money to leave the places they are and have sex with people from other cultures

so

no

hydrojakep 06-22-2006 01:11 AM

Re: Will we become one race soon?
 
White people eee-eee-eee-eee-eee-eee-eee
black people doo-doo-doo-doo


btw incase you dont get my clever joke, no.

YungYung 06-22-2006 01:19 AM

Re: Will we become one race soon?
 
We already are one race. Humans.

WTF chinese race, white race, black race... get your vocabulary straight.

And um, I personally believe that most of the population will be partially some sort of asian culture. Wether it be east indian or chinese etc... since they seem to have the biggest populations, plus the fact that they immigrate ****ing everywhere.

T0rajir0u 06-22-2006 01:24 AM

Re: Will we become one race soon?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by YungYung
We already are one race. Humans.

way to read the rest of the thread

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Race

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wikipedia
The term race distinguishes one population of humans (or non-humans) from another.


YungYung 06-22-2006 01:27 AM

Re: Will we become one race soon?
 
Throwing a wikipedia definition at me doesn't mean anything. I'm not saying it's wrong either, but honestly who goes around distinguishing people by "white race" "black race" and "asian race" etc etc..? I'm entitled to my opinion am I not?

T0rajir0u 06-22-2006 01:34 AM

Re: Will we become one race soon?
 
I wasn't arguing against your point, I actually agree with you. I just prefer it when people use their terms precisely because I've found that a lot of pointless arguments are really just disagreements over definitions. When people know exactly what they're talking about, sometimes they realize they aren't disagreeing over anything arguable.

aperson 06-22-2006 01:35 AM

Re: Will we become one race soon?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by YungYung
Throwing a wikipedia definition at me doesn't mean anything. I'm not saying it's wrong either, but honestly who goes around distinguishing people by "white race" "black race" and "asian race" etc etc..? I'm entitled to my opinion am I not?

When presenting arguments, it is best to adhere to a lexicographical source so as not to delve into an argument of semantics. Torajirou provided a pretty good and respectable source, and you then proceeded to use the word in a quite arbitrary and incorrect way to how it had been defined. I suggest if you want to continue your argument, you choose a different word to encompass the 'being-ness' that is inherent in all humans, and allow race to stand for what torajirou has cited.


My own perspective on this matter is that, as society globalizes, the barriers allowing genetic drift between independent cultures will be broken down, allowing society to become more homogenized and causing the 'universal culture' of the world to narrow in scope.

Moogy 06-22-2006 03:15 AM

Re: Will we become one race soon?
 
lol ringworld.

MCRenaissance 06-22-2006 03:18 AM

Re: Will we become one race soon?
 
Wow...

Aperson's post really intimidated me to post here considering that my intellect is nowhere close to matching Aperson, but here it goes.

I believe that as time passes yes, we should become into just one race. Not anytime soon though. Considering the fact that some people are just isolated from the rest of the world other than where they live. But yes, I do think that as time passes this will happen.

There's my go at it.

Z3ratul 06-22-2006 04:44 AM

Re: Will we become one race soon?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by aperson
My own perspective on this matter is that, as society globalizes, the barriers allowing genetic drift between independent cultures will be broken down, allowing society to become more homogenized and causing the 'universal culture' of the world to narrow in scope.

Quote:

Originally Posted by MCRenaissance
I believe that as time passes yes, we should become into just one race. Not anytime soon though. Considering the fact that some people are just isolated from the rest of the world other than where they live. But yes, I do think that as time passes this will happen.

Just thought I'd point that out.

And, after giving it some thought, I can't seem to come up with anything that disputes that logic.

Gano 06-22-2006 04:56 AM

Re: Will we become one race soon?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by hydrojakep
White people eee-eee-eee-eee-eee-eee-eee
black people doo-doo-doo-doo


btw incase you dont get my clever joke, no.

Thats one too many eee's and one doo short you've got there

Tps222 06-22-2006 08:16 AM

Re: Will we become one race soon?
 
Soon is a terrible word to use, as you didn't define a timeframe to assign to "soon". Within the next 100 years? Probably not. Will we ever, it's a good possibility. Although, they're are way too many unknown variables possible to determine the timeframe though, this includes Nuclear Wars, Catastrophic Natural Events, and other ridiculous things people say are going to happen in the next century. I'm really not well-educated in the field of genetics, so I do not know how mutations and variations in traits would affect this whole deal.

Reach 06-22-2006 11:31 AM

Re: Will we become one race soon?
 
Lol. Translation - Use words as they are defined, not openly as it confuses the point of your argument. I run into this a lot here actually (even though I do it too sometimes XD)

And ap's second paragraph speaks to the truth, so there isn't a whole lot to add. I mean, it's inevitable with where we're going now. Something could of course cause things to change like what tps mentioned.

trillobyite 06-22-2006 11:31 AM

Re: Will we become one race soon?
 
Whether or not "race" exists, there are distinct morphological groups of humans as a result of evolutionary adaptations to different ecosystems on Earth. One reason why humanity could all look alike soon would be the massive globalization and homogenizing of the international community through urbanization, but there would still be deviants. I doubt humanity could combine into one race anytime soon, though in the far future, if we are still extant, it could be possible.

Edit: I am speaking in terms of evolution though, not interracial sex, so I can see where I'd be pointed out as wrong. As far as an international cluture, however, that is impossible. Culture tends to develop as a result of local customs in specific regions, not as a result of race. Are Chinese and Japanese culture equivalent? Not even close. Is Nigerian culture equivalent with Zimbabwe's culture? Not even close if you read either nation's cultural history.

jewpinthethird 06-22-2006 02:38 PM

Re: Will we become one race soon?
 
I hope so, halfies are hot.

Will there be one universal race? One cannot rule out that possiblity, but there are too many variables to consider before one can come to a solid conclusion on the matter.

I honestly dont believe a universal race will ever come about. And I am convinced there is no way a universal culture will ever form.

Mindfields 06-22-2006 03:27 PM

Re: Will we become one race soon?
 
I don't think so. Not anytime soon, atleast. Blasians have a LONG way to go. I've only seen two and that was on the internet. Religions get involved; there's just no way some people will sleep with another color.

Minion133 06-22-2006 03:55 PM

Re: Will we become one race soon?
 
gay

Suzuru 06-22-2006 04:10 PM

Re: Will we become one race soon?
 
edit: meh

Z3ratul 06-22-2006 11:00 PM

Re: Will we become one race soon?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mindfields
I don't think so. Not anytime soon, atleast. Blasians have a LONG way to go. I've only seen two and that was on the internet. Religions get involved; there's just no way some people will sleep with another color.

Not anytime soon, of course. But the religion argument fails because nowadays a certain race of people aren't all bound to the same religion.

Reach 06-22-2006 11:10 PM

Re: Will we become one race soon?
 
Not to mention fanatical religion is on the decline. The barriers are breaking down. As civilizations become more advanced they globalize and begin to homogenize. It's happening faster than a lot of people think.

Arguments like 'we'll be going into space' do not hold up any value. So what? How does this prevent homogenization? This does not stop globalization. Going into space is not necessarily a barrier at all.

flamingspinach 06-23-2006 02:05 PM

Re: Will we become one race soon?
 
Um. We'd all better hope that we're not becoming one race, if a race is defined as "a population of humans or non-humans", because that destroys much of our species's survival capability. Being reduced to one population, no matter how large, would be a disaster. Hell, it already is becoming one. I'm all for understanding other people and cultures, but in a biological sense, globalization is one of the worst things that could happen to our species.

Reach 06-23-2006 04:54 PM

Re: Will we become one race soon?
 
What? I don't understand how it would be a disaster at all. If anything, it would be a great advantage. It would destroy many of the problems in our world now. Not to mention global government.

I don't see how it would hinder our survival capacity. Explain this to me. "survival capability" wtf? We completely rely on technology. I fail to see how this is relevant *confused*

trillobyite 06-23-2006 04:59 PM

Re: Will we become one race soon?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Reach
Not to mention fanatical religion is on the decline.

?? Maybe in America & Europe....not in Africa, the Middle East, or India....and those are some heavily populated places.

Reach 06-23-2006 05:10 PM

Re: Will we become one race soon?
 
Oh it is still on the decline and it's only going to drop further as they develop. Don't be fooled. A lot of African countries are exploding development wise. It's not just tribes running around contracting aids anymore. India is also developing rapidly and will be a powerhouse in around 50 years.

flamingspinach 06-23-2006 08:21 PM

Re: Will we become one race soon?
 
I said on a biological level. The homogenization of a species leads to a loss of biodiversity and therefore a lack of flexibility. I highly suggest that you read the book Ishmael by Daniel Quinn - I don't usually point people to books as part of an discussion because nobody ever actually reads such references, but I think the points of that book are very important for everyone to understand. Humans are, notwithstanding the proud place we assign ourselves in the world order, still a biological species, and we need to take care that we not go the way of the dinosaurs, so to speak. Any ecologist will tell you that multiple populations (i.e. multiple groups of individuals that don't usually breed with each other) are very important to a species's success.

To give a human example, people of different ethnic backgrounds (by which I mean that before globalization happened, their ancestors lived and bred in disparate locations and were separate populations to a large extent) tend to still retain genetic differences from each other, one of the more minor examples being skin color. These genetic differences, while making people of all races no less human, do in fact contribute to the phenotypic expression of the vast amount of genetic diversity that we, as a global species, can command. However, if globalization reduces us to just one huge population, the more "rare" genes will start dying out, slowly. Again, this is from a biological perspective, and not a human perspective, necessarily - though ultimately our civilization needs to reconcile the two or we're going to be in deep **** :/

trillobyite 06-30-2006 01:21 PM

Re: Will we become one race soon?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Reach
Oh it is still on the decline and it's only going to drop further as they develop. Don't be fooled. A lot of African countries are exploding development wise. It's not just tribes running around contracting aids anymore. India is also developing rapidly and will be a powerhouse in around 50 years.

No of course not tribes running around. I'm talking about North Africa... but in Nigeria for example Muslims rioted against Christians, Christians rioted against Muslims, and in Somalia various religious factions are competing to establish an authoritarian government. India is indeed developing, but in practically all the outlying villages (IE not big cities), the whole caste system of untouchables is alive and working well, illegally. In the cities there are disputes regarding affirmative action in helping lower classes, which were derived from traditional castes. But I guess you're right in that radicalism is in no way increasing in India, but in Africa and the ME I think the point still stands.
Edit: Sorry for bumping a kinda old thread :)

TheRaiRaiEatsBalloons 06-30-2006 03:09 PM

Re: Will we become one race soon?
 
Though we may be seemingly moving in a direction towards cultural semi-unison now, I definately don't think that the species homo sapien will be the last species to come out of this particular line of evolution.

"Races" might become more intertwined within the next few hundred generations, but over the next few thousand generations, I think that a lot of [what we consider] "post apocolyptic" cultures of the future may theoretically be on rather significantly different paths.

Suzuru 06-30-2006 03:29 PM

Re: Will we become one race soon?
 
We may be on a path to becoming an artificially altered humans species, sort of like the Abh in Seikai no Monshou, Senki.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abh

TheRaiRaiEatsBalloons 06-30-2006 03:55 PM

Re: Will we become one race soon?
 
Theoretically, but I was more suggesting a sort of split.

emptiness 07-1-2006 02:22 AM

Re: Will we become one race soon?
 
well soon the main language in the us will be spanish. Thats a start

Suzuru 07-1-2006 02:39 AM

Re: Will we become one race soon?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by emptiness
well soon the main language in the us will be spanish. Thats a start

Japanese will be main language gtfo ;p

aperson 07-1-2006 03:41 AM

Re: Will we become one race soon?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Reach
A lot of African countries are exploding development wise. It's not just tribes running around contracting aids anymore. India is also developing rapidly and will be a powerhouse in around 50 years.


Uhh. Umm.

What?
Yes, India is exploding development-wise.

Africa, though? No. Africa is not. Africa is tanking, crumbling, and ripping at the seams. If you would like I can pull up countless sources citing how poorly Africa is doing in our globalizing economy.

emptiness 07-1-2006 06:36 AM

Re: Will we become one race soon?
 
im sorry..japan is gonna get hit with another bomb..j/kj/k

Reach 07-1-2006 11:07 AM

Re: Will we become one race soon?
 
Quite a few african countries are developing ap, and fast. It's going to cause a lot of over population too.

But I mean, overall you could say it's doing pretty ****ty because a lot (most) of it is still a hell hole.

Big Market wise you only have like 5 countries there that are actually doing stuff and becoming a political power, but I wouldn't say that is *necessary* for globalization at all. There are a few countries that have quite a bit of money and ****ty markets.

Either way, yea, africa is still a pretty big problem, but I mean talking about how long it will take to globalize the entire planet across the time scale of how long we've been here as homosapians, it won't be that long (assuming some really horrible things don't happen)


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