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I'd like us all to take a moment and discuss the legitimacy of the new people in this forum. please note that a few of us have played stepmania since a long ****ing time ago, and we understand how long it takes to get that decent. I don't really understand how most of you can **** out AAAA's left and right.
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I haven't been around nearly as long as you and some others have.......but I just want to say that just because someone's new to the forum doesn't necessarily mean they're new to the game. I'm not saying they're legit, for all I know they fake every score they post...but it's still something to keep in mind.
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you'd probably know what i mean if you were: emccky boneti fusi0n tsutter evilpeer omegix kenzya yeah. |
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I would also like to point out that no one shows judge + ini in videos anymore nor does this via the correct method of searching your comp for stepmania.ini to verify that there aren't multiple copies in play.
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Wow I'm posting again I suck.
Yeah, this topic is full of truth. I don't even click topics anymore unless it's someone from "BACK IN THE DAY" (lol) that I recognize. Most of you new people seem so full of **** it isn't even funny. The fact that most of the new people are like "lol hay I can MA everything but my speed isn't worth dongs" kind of proves that. Awesome MA doesn't come naturally, poofaces. As for searching for stepmania.ini to show there aren't multiple ones, I figured out a way to counter that in 5 seconds. Videos do not PROVE legitimacy at all, it just reinforces it somewhat. They're so easy to bull**** it's kind of retarded. (no my wonderstory video is not bs) obligatory rofl stepmania |
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my ma is too garbage to be considered cheatz. 2 legit 2 quit.
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Ok, I understand what you're all saying, but at the same time it seems like you should give us newer folk a chance.....blah blah it's easy to BS but it seems like you seasoned veterans should still give us a chance, so that in a year or two we'll be as good as you are now..immediately assuming BS no matter who posts what score seems as if you're all just elitist...but you've gotta give us a chance, I guess.
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help im being doubted what should i do
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so pro la ^^^^^^^^^^
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omg, tsutter posted in the BB.
Hey tsutter, how about SSing the score in the video, showing the SS and then go backwards one step, into the data folder and showing the .ini? Can you still show the wrong .ini then? Just asking. Anyone doubting me? Feel free to say it and I'll make vids. |
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Tsch, I'm the total opposite. Signed up for FFR back in... whatever year my joined date says. Played it off an on for the last few years, and only in the last few months have actually started trying pretty hard at SM. Luckily, my scores still suck and I can't get through the stairs 30 seconds into FotS for the life of me. So it's OK.
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Still... why would people even bother to fake it? I doubt you could BS a score that comes close to some of the people here... I mean, even with BS, your scores still won't compare to Nima, Thaor, Reach, and the other pros. |
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o hay sup.
Anyways, my opinion is somewhat related to how I've gotten progressivly better. I started playing stepmania about two years ago, and never got hardcore into it until about october/novemeber of 2004, just before I started posting at a0. I used a modified judge and ini, and turned off marvelous because I actually felt good that I was doing well. Until one day, a mod by the name of Toph talked me into using Marvelous, and once I got started playing old school SMO (when you had to connect directly to the foe's computer) did I set everything to normal. This was arguably my best score I had for the longest time (http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y25...kickassAA.jpg), and I thought it was amazing. Nowadays, If I get a score like that I must have REALLY ****ed up. I've spent a good deal of time over the last 18 months getting to where I am now, and even still, the scores arn't anywhere near spectacular in comparison to the competition, even from two years ago. If I see people who randomly say "o hay i ben playin 4 6 months n im better then u", I nearly positive they are full of crap. I'm not the best player, but when someone who's played for a quarter the time I have and is just as good as me or even better, I'm 77.28% sure they arn't legit. |
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i have my doubts about 4 people after seeing this thread...i had 2 before this thread :). thanks for opening my eyes hayden.
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People should try being legit for once.
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oh my godz guyz where are da videosz? o wai :O
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I don't cheat.
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holy jesus it's a BLAST FROM THE PAST kind of thread.
PS: I completely agree, What was this, one of these "new players" was like aaaing quasar after a month of playing or something i think. |
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I don't care what everyone else thinks about me cuz I'm still new, if you guys can't grasp the fact that people progress at fast rates, that's sad. It happens with everything, the innovators or people who first play the game obviously don't have people better than them to compare scores with, the motivation of seeing legends' scores made me wanna be the best like you guys
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Once i started playing harder songs it only took me a few months to start getting good ****ty scores. I'm not doubting it. Plus some of them have been playing before and posting in other places. Not like even matters.
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I remember someone saying that newer people have a lot more simfiles of various difficulties to practise on, so they can improve faster, while the veterans had to do it with max300 and DDR steps for a long time.
Some people on this site are so retarded it isn't hard to believe they're BS though. |
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Don't you worry, guys, I'm not going to be AAA/AAAAing anything for ages, as it is my PA stinks and playing spread doesn't help.
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Generally, I think you'll find when you get to more advanced songs spread > index. Index is just a lot easier to learn. I'd recommend you stay learning spread, seeing as when you get to songs like Holy Thunderforce with Jumps in 16th streams, it get's very difficult.
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I'm going to keep spreading because I find indexing absolutely awkward after having as many fingers as there are keys to hit for so long.
And hitting hands is fun. |
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People might be cheating on a computer game, guys.. someone call the police. :<:<:<:<:<:<:<
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Hope nobody's calling BS on me--I made vids (forgot to show judge ini but hell you can see my fingers and hear keytaps and etc) and if you really want you can look up my old topics and see that I've been making steady progress.
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not bs |
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Ok good, lol.
And by the way, no new people are claiming to be at tsutter's level, except Skika and everyone knew he was fake. |
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I guess I'm just one of those people who improves at the rate that everyone else did back in the day, lol
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I don't cheat
but I have no idea how some people becomes so fast under such a short time. My fingers gets all ****ed up if I play nonstop for more than a week. btw fix my finger it's been borked since the birth of time |
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yea I don't see why ppl who have been playing for only a few months can nearly AAAA like 200bpm 16th stream stuff.
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My scores are so bland, It would be hard TO call my scores BS. Well except that V3 score. I seriously think I went SS3 on that song from annoyance.
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so im not BS rite guyz
cause i just aaaaaad quasar |
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SSJ3, not SS3
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Anyways the biggest difference must be the songs. People who start playing now don't have to set their aim at passing BMR's V and A, there are an insane amount of songs for all different skill levels. It's so much easier to just play lots of different stuff, you don't have to whore out the ddr songs that are all on a similar level of difficulty except for like, 5 of them. For example I had a friend over today and before he was going to leave we played a bunch of stepmania-songs. Two weeks ago he was around the skill level to play DDR sevens, today he passed Haydens high, Break Ya Neck, Open Your mind and songs like that and was never even close to failing. It's way easier to progress nowadays. Oops long post, you get cookie for reading it. Edit: Spelling |
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its exactly the same as ddr
people nowadays progress so much better, because they CAN. theres so much more room for them to improve, its not some ****ty offsync 10 footer with no speed mods and ****ty pads, now you can actually learn to FA and MA on songs. |
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I blame society
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I blame TV
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I blame Anuj, people can't beat his scores.
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Sorry for getting in this so late. But if you guys are wondering about my MA, ive actually been playing for 2 years, and ive gotten a lot better. I used to play 3 fingered on the normal keys for a year, but after that i realized jumps were becoming a pain in the ass, so my friend showed me spread. I practiced spread for about 4 months and got REALLY good. My MA JUMPED a lot because i play everyday for about an hour. Honestly i could care less if ppl think im legit or not.
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Well...its sad if nebody thinks im bs which i dont think they do...but i DID have a ****ty comp which was the same as playing on judge 5....it never registered triples either. My skilled jumped mainly cuz of comp change...no lie, in one night, a 75 perf AAA on Quasar became a 7 perf AAA....and now I can't even AAA it on the old comp nemore =(
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so all that about the "old" days is kind of bunk. When I started marvellous timing was well established, as was the case for most everyone on hayden's list.
There's also a case that can be made for people misjudging people who seem too good. Even when hayden first came to ffr, everyone called bs on him because no one knew who he was. |
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I remember when i first Aced max 300. i was so happy. That was when i didnt know about ffr and i was searching for sims on google and only found a few crappy things.
then there was the first ffr simfile database and thats when i really started to get better. With things like winter and 1st samurai. |
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Actually, to be more on the serious side, if there's any doubt about me I can probably borrow a cam and make some vids, if not dig up my ****ty webcam (good enough to hear keytaps).
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You should make some vids Zag, not saying your not legit, i just havent seen one of you yet.
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I want to see some zagh videos.
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I've made a couple of vids but that was a REALLY long time ago. The webcam is so ****ty so I figured it wasn't even worth it.
It is GREAT for keytaps though, so I guess I could make a couple. It'll have to be after monday though, I'm still arrested. |
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i dont want zag vids i want nima vids
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zag vids would be awesome. btw zag is 1000 percent legit f00z.
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I remember doing DDR 9 footers after like 1 or 2 days
ps it was on keyboard pps I played like 48 hours the first 2 days lol |
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too bad I can't find my webcam I'll borrow Blurk's or something Blurk bring your webcam to school on monday |
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hey guys, lets make top 5 lists of our favorite cheaters
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I found a cam today...my friend is gonna lend me his, woot!
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I need to find the CD and reinstall it first I'm gonna make that HotD vid then too rofl |
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There are only a few people who I will believe the scores of without any real doubt. These are the people that I have seen progress through the game along with myself, and get better over time. Furthermore, their scores have always been consistent to some extent.
The biggest reason that I have a hard time putting faith in the scores of the current big one handers here (Yessssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss and Macgyver, I guess) is because I never saw them improve. My first sight of their scores was when they were already at a very high level of play. And I know, from personal experience, that building skill as a one hander is a very slow, gradual process - my biggest evidence for this is that both Kilga and I improved at practically the same rate for well over a year. I understand that the Brag Board is a much harder place to make any sort of impact on now than it was back in the infancy of my SM days. The bar is simply much higher now than it was in the past, and thus it isn't unlikely that someone waited until they had substantial skill before posting. However, I have run into a lot of people that claimed to have substantial skill in the past after playing for only a few months, and that simply does not compute. Oh, and I'm not calling BS on either Yesssssssssss or Macgyver. Both of them have always posted consistent scores, as far as I am aware. I just wouldn't bet anything important on the credibility of their scores. |
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However, there are people who came out of nowhere with really good scores who have proven that they are legit... just look at cky's OML vid
Yeah he uses his thumb, but you don't get that good overnight. |
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That's a better OML score than I'll ever do because I'll never play that OML again.
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I got called BS on my first score post because all the oldbies who played back in the very slow progression days saw it first and thought my rate of improvement was stupidly good.
But we all know I suck now. EDIT: I forgot I already replied, ugh, I'm out of it. |
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If you BS on a "nerdy" game like SM and FFR, you have some serious self-esteem issues. I don't see any reason to play SM/FFR for anything but fun and for personal gratification at your progression.
(Edit was because I haven't had English class in a while o_O) |
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whoever said back in the day when me, justaguy, ep, boneti, fusion etc played there was less competition was wrong. there was more competition then than now, and it was good competition.
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lol
I'm gonna put FotS, CotB and MSWGO in one folder and play endless mode sometime rofl |
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sounds like boring! |
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there was WAYYY more competition back then, trust me. |
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afronova, again and again and again.
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I remember failing max 300 over and over and over before i finally passed, i was so proud of myself, lol
My first pass was on smo, brb finding it EDIT: Haha July 2005 http://stepmaniaonline.com/index.php...5&round=456401 |
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lol I got better by playing Moogy's Delirium a lot
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I whored PSMO on light on my first day, it was a 2 footer....I AAd it, then I whored all the other Paranoias....finally I passed the Oni after like...2 weeks aha, I played like 4 hours a day minimum too
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Wow. This makes me feel like i've been playing for so long, because it has been almost a lifetime of this game. I've been playing for ~5 1/2 years. Yea, its been way too long. There was no SM or FFR back when I started. We had crap like dietdietrevolution and some other s***. And there were only ddr songs and a few crap songs, excluding plaguemix (which at the time was amazing) and some of ren's really early work. first 3 years were 1 handed, until I found the brag boards here and learned of index, which i immediately switched to. Unfortunatley, I didn't realize how good I was at 1 hand at the time or I would have probably kept with it more. about 3 years ago now, I could do Ren's Act and Karma v2 1 handed, and that was pretty hard back then, since I hadn't figured out speed mods yet. Anyways, after 1 hand, i went index for about a year, and got decent at that. Now, for the last year or whatever, I've been playing spread and this is where i've had the most improvement. Thats probably a story that is way too long but whatever. I don't think anyone is doubting me, but I've been wrong before /life story
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ps no vids for 3 years and counting bitches |
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and the awesome part was that it was pretty friendly competition too, people weren't at eachothers throats and **** #flashflashrevolution lol |
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eureka
i've found seven |
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People are playing more in less amounts of time.
In the beginning there was no pressure to (for example) AA something like Gravity because barely anyone could do it, so there was not as much as a drive to play so much until you achieve that AA on Gravity. Now that people have been playing for long periods of time you can commonly see people AAA'ing Gravity. The average n00b will play Gravity and get disapointed from the results. The only solution would be to play more and reach the set norm that everyone else is doing. Need an example? I have one for you: Female That is all. |
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