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Afrobean 06-24-2006 08:16 PM

Re: A question about gays/lesbians
 
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Originally Posted by Kles
Can you prove what YOU said?

No, I cannot prove what I said.

However, I was not so openly abrasive. His post could be summed up as:

"lol ur wrong ps i'm not going to post anything about why i'm right and ur not i'm just going to insult you and declare you as wrong"

T0rajir0u 06-24-2006 08:54 PM

Re: A question about gays/lesbians
 
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Originally Posted by flamingspinach
Down's Syndrome is not caused by a mutation - it's caused by an accident during meiosis

what the **** do you think a mutation is

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Originally Posted by Wikipedia
Mutations can be caused by copying errors in the genetic material during cell division and by exposure to radiation, chemicals (mutagens), or viruses, or can occur deliberately under cellular control during processes such as meiosis or hypermutation.

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Originally Posted by dancepuppet
THEIR THE ONES WHO FRIKKEN BROUGHT AIDS TO THIS WORLD!!!!!!!!

wow

way to be a jackass

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AIDS_origin

edit: no, **** ******s like you are too lazy to click on links

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Originally Posted by Wikipedia
HIV originated in primates as far as is known. Possible ways for this virus to have originally infected humans include the hunting and eating of the original primate species; a bite would be another possible route.


Kles 06-24-2006 09:05 PM

Re: A question about gays/lesbians
 
Wow. You just used Wikipedia against fs. The world ends.

Also, on the topic of AIDS... straight people get AIDS just as likely as a gay person! Shocking!!

T0rajir0u 06-24-2006 09:19 PM

Re: A question about gays/lesbians
 
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Originally Posted by Kles
Wow. You just used Wikipedia against fs. The world ends.

My point is that an accident during meiosis is an instance of a type of mutation. =/

Moogy 06-24-2006 10:49 PM

Re: A question about gays/lesbians
 
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Originally Posted by Kles
Wow. You just used Wikipedia against fs. The world ends.

HOLY **** ABANDON SHIP

flamingspinach 06-25-2006 03:23 AM

Re: A question about gays/lesbians
 
T0rajir0u, you're right - it is a mutation, I suppose. I was basically using a narrower definition of a mutation - i.e. one that only includes those mutations that can be considered independently random events. In other words, my point was that the Down's Syndrome is easily replicable, whereas other mutations are generally not. That would be why it doesn't "die out" - because if a mutated gene dies out, it's usually not likely to mutate again in the same way, whereas Down's Syndrome is.

-fs

Prince_Kheldar 07-11-2006 06:10 PM

Re: A question about gays/lesbians
 
Replying to Z3ratul *(I play starcraft too :)). A homo-sexual relationship doesn't always mean anal sex. I'm pretty sure that if they're having it, it isn't just 1 person getting pleasure from it...

Prince_Kheldar 07-11-2006 06:13 PM

Re: A question about gays/lesbians
 
You're kidding, you think that homo-sexuality is because of a mutation during Meiosis? lol. This is funny, about 99% of mutations in meiosis are bad, usually causing down syndrome. Putting it simply, if you take 2 clones and you raised them the same, you're probably going to get the same result in sexuality. IF however, you raised them each in a different environment (1 in homosexual friendly environment, and 1 in a homosexual biased environment) I can guarentee you they won't end up the same...

Prince_Kheldar 07-11-2006 06:15 PM

Re: A question about gays/lesbians
 
omg, very sorry, lmao...i didn't read all the posts before that >.< *winces*

Kles 07-11-2006 06:53 PM

Re: A question about gays/lesbians
 
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Originally Posted by Prince_Kheldar
You're kidding, you think that homo-sexuality is because of a mutation during Meiosis? lol. This is funny, about 99% of mutations in meiosis are bad, usually causing down syndrome. Putting it simply, if you take 2 clones and you raised them the same, you're probably going to get the same result in sexuality. IF however, you raised them each in a different environment (1 in homosexual friendly environment, and 1 in a homosexual biased environment) I can guarentee you they won't end up the same...

I agree: One will be openly gay and the other will hide it.

Haus 07-11-2006 07:43 PM

Re: A question about gays/lesbians
 
Gays have AIDS more often because the HIV virus lives in blood and semen. As a butthole is smaller than a penis, during anal sex semen comes (heh...) in contact with blood. Straight people don't usually get HIV because female genitals are specifically designed to facilitate heterosexual intercourse, and therefore bleeding doesn't usually occur except in particularly violent sex.

T0rajir0u 07-11-2006 07:51 PM

Re: A question about gays/lesbians
 
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Originally Posted by Haus
Gays have AIDS more often because the HIV virus lives in blood and semen. As a butthole is smaller than a penis, during anal sex semen comes (heh...) in contact with blood. Straight people don't usually get HIV because female genitals are specifically designed to facilitate heterosexual intercourse, and therefore bleeding doesn't usually occur except in particularly violent sex.

The HIV virus lives in blood, semen, vaginal fluid, breast milk, and cowper's fluid. Moreover, the membranes surrounding both the penis and the vagina are mucus membranes. This means that they are porous, so when semen or vaginal fluid touches them, **** gets through.

This is the easiest type of anti-gay **** to debunk because it's just plain untrue, and if you're not willing to listen to facts, then go ahead, keep having straight sex and thinking you won't get HIV.

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Originally Posted by www.thewellproject.org
Myths About HIV Transmission

The myth: "Straight people don't get HIV."

The reality: The majority of HIV+ people worldwide are heterosexual. Men infect women, and women infect men. Risk is not about labels, it is about behavior. A 'straight' woman who has unprotected sex with men is at more risk for HIV than a 'gay' man who always practices safe sex.


stfuitsbrandon 07-11-2006 09:38 PM

Re: A question about gays/lesbians
 
thank you for proving him wrong, that was one of the dumbest "facts" ive heard.

windsurfer-sp 07-13-2006 01:12 AM

Re: A question about gays/lesbians
 
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Originally Posted by JKPolk
There's enough people on the planet that we could use some more gays/lesbians/people just plain not reproducing.

Yeah well gay and lesbian couples still want to have children though so its not that likely to slow down breeding. Someone else has to do the work for them though :P

T0rajir0u 07-13-2006 01:17 AM

Re: A question about gays/lesbians
 
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Originally Posted by windsurfer-sp
Someone else has to do the work for them though :P

http://www.ivf.com/ivffaq.html

http://www.spermbankdirectory.com/NSindex.htm

windsurfer-sp 07-13-2006 01:24 AM

Re: A question about gays/lesbians
 
IVF is still someone doing something so that they could have children.

If there was a gay couple on an island they could not have children. If there was a straight couple on the island they have the potenial to have children (right age, working body, etc..).

And another thing i always thought that alot of people who are gay were sexually abused during childhood. I don't have any evidence but was wondering if that rings true with you guys?

I guess its just another case of the enviroment causing homosexuality.

ReachfortheLight 07-13-2006 02:48 AM

Re: A question about gays/lesbians
 
On that environment topic. . . what of a child and his/her relationship w/the father? I've heard that can have quite a big effect.

Also out of curiosity. . . have we as humans always upheld the rules for natural selection throughout history? You know, with like, wars and stuff, or keeping people alive so much longer. . . it just doesn't seem to work the same way with us as it does in nature where there's no higher thinking. So perhaps if homosexual tendencies were in the genes, they would just be another man-made diversion from natural selection?

flamingspinach 07-14-2006 03:08 PM

Re: A question about gays/lesbians
 
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Originally Posted by smartdude1212
I remember one day we were talking in health class and one kid asked the teacher how people became homosexual. She said that some studies said that when a pregnant mother breathed in a lot of polluted air, the chemicals in the pollutants would sometimes (not always) mess up the chromosomes. Then, while the baby was still growing, the changes would mess it up, causing them to like a member of their own sex or be born with a different body part than what ultrasounds would show earlier in the pregnancy.

I guess this all goes back to the environment subject...

High school teachers tend to not know **** about sexuality. Hell, 90% of anyone tends to not know **** about sexuality. I'd go look up an actual academic resource if I were you.

T0rajir0u 07-14-2006 07:29 PM

Re: A question about gays/lesbians
 
Guess what guys?

Like I said before, a lot of research shows that people who turn out to be gay start that way from birth or very early childhood.

Homosexuality is hormonal, not psychological.

TIMEDISORT 07-14-2006 07:32 PM

Re: A question about gays/lesbians
 
I think that gays/leses are fine. And no i am not one. Bitch.

I think that their parents might be like..........you know..........
Like James Blunt or whatever his name is. His dad shot him because he was gay. That aint cool.


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