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trillobyite 06-28-2005 03:40 PM

Should there be a world government?
 
Should we be governed by a "world government", with the United Nations Assembly becoming a directly elected parliament? Should nation-states give up more of their sovereignty to supranational institutions?

The model of the nation-state has traditionally provided the basis for international relations. However, there are many problems which are impossible for individual nation-states to solve and which require international cooperation, for example environmental problems, third world poverty, international law, trading rules, etc. And cosmopolitanism is coming back into fashion; many people consider there to be such a thing as an international society with international laws. This has serious implications for the old nation-state model and evokes the possibility of the United Nations evolving into a popularly elected "world government". Should (and could) such a government exist?

gardyloo 06-29-2005 08:08 PM

RE: Should there be a world government?
 
I don't know, people might start calling you the Antichrist.

esupin 06-30-2005 08:33 AM

RE: Should there be a world government?
 
I don't think this idea will work; the world is just too big, and there is no way every country will agree to join. Even now, the UN is having trouble enforcing their law(economic sanctions do not work every time).

There will be countries looking for loopholes in the law, and there are bound to be complaints of the "world government" being biased against smaller countries.

I have always thought that large countries (like Russia/USSR, USA, China) have a hard time keeping track of everything that goes on in their respective country, and it will be even harder for a government to keep track of the world.

Tank101 06-30-2005 08:56 AM

RE: Should there be a world government?
 
But is there one man or woman on Earth that knows all the details of every single country on the planet?

No, that's why we have many people who know more about their specific areas.

esupin 06-30-2005 10:44 AM

RE: Should there be a world government?
 
But even with so many people running things, there is no way every problem will get resolved.

jewpinthethird 06-30-2005 07:57 PM

Re: RE: Should there be a world government?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by esupin
I have always thought that large countries (like Russia/USSR, USA, China) have a hard time keeping track of everything that goes on in their respective country, and it will be even harder for a government to keep track of the world.

That is why the government is divided up into three levels, Federal, State and Local. Adding an International division on top of that doesnt seem entirely unrealistic.

FishFishRevolution 07-1-2005 06:48 AM

RE: Re: RE: Should there be a world government?
 
This is why we need some sort of super-computer to run things. Robots keep the rebellious countries in line.

Sera13 07-1-2005 09:22 AM

RE: Re: RE: Should there be a world government?
 
I think its a bad idea simply becuase its to larg to be controled by one government they have tried to rule over large areas in the past and they simply cannot do it, They can enforce laws in some places where they cannot in others they can control in some places where they cannot in others and the laws very so greatly upon countries now theres no way they could come to any soft of equallibrium. Who says any of the coutries would join, and what if some did and some didnt or all but one..

Tps222 07-1-2005 04:14 PM

RE: Re: RE: Should there be a world government?
 
Well, everyone knows what happens to single gov'ts with big empires. Rome, Greece, Ottoman. There need to be seperate levels of this idea.

Eyoshi 07-1-2005 04:44 PM

I don't think there should be a world government. This is how I see it. While it might act well in the beginning, eventually it'll break down. The government cannot enforce its laws everywhere effectively, and some parts will be ignored. Then, some countries may want to secede possibly because they are dissatisfied, and they build their power in the ignored areas, causing a large problem for the world government to deal with.

vashthestampede0987 07-1-2005 10:12 PM

We do have a world government, it's called America. :D

No, there shouldn't even with the power being split in to local, state, and federal the entire world would be too hard to run with because there aren't enough optimists to run it. Sure, there's a handful qualified for the job, but not enough to fufill the needs of the world at the same time.

gardyloo 07-2-2005 08:17 AM

Re: RE: Re: RE: Should there be a world government?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by FishFishRevolution
This is why we need some sort of super-computer to run things. Robots keep the rebellious countries in line.

That reminds me of the worst movie ever: Stealth. If anyone goes to see this I hope you cry when you don't get your money back.
Oh no! A lightning strike caused our super computer to turn evil and is going to nuke every country!

FishFishRevolution 07-2-2005 08:19 AM

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It's a fail-safe for all computer systems. When some piece of it breaks, and it's no longer able to function to its fullest capacity, it defaults to EVIL.

Sera13 07-2-2005 10:58 AM

RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Should there be a world government?
 
all i need to say is think about the matrix, i mean seriously one of these days we could very possibly out do our selves to the point it cuases us harm. Not saying th matrix is in anyway fact, however would knows what really could happen, somthing can only be so good before its bad.. not to mention all the flaws and faults and shit in technology right now, its barely reliable.. do we really want that running our lives.. talk about mass chaos.

lypso345 07-2-2005 11:04 AM

RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Should there be a world government?
 
i saw a movie were this happens and the antichrist comes down to kill people

HamHack 07-2-2005 01:44 PM

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this is a good idea because world problems would be solved which would save all ppl and humans would be more united

Eyoshi 07-2-2005 09:23 PM

RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Should there be a world government?
 
I doubt that people would be more united as the result of a world government because usually people tend to group with others who share the same opinions. Supposedly, if there was a world government, what would happen if there is an issue in which many parties with many opinions disagree on? Let's say that none of them wish to compromise. When a decision a reached, it somewhat favored a few of the parties and not the others. Those parties would likely get mad and accuse the favored parties, and this would cause a large conflict.

imported_Fw-Tuna 07-7-2005 03:20 PM

RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Should there be a world government?
 
what a stupid post, you just watched star wars 3 and came back and made this wtf, such a gd noob like ull nvr be a jedi, ur liek stupid

trillobyite 07-7-2005 08:44 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Fw-Tuna
what a stupid post, you just watched star wars 3 and came back and made this wtf, such a gd noob like ull nvr be a jedi, ur liek stupid

Dude I never even saw a star wars movie in my life.

Anyway, the issue of human rights is indeed universal. To that end, intergovernmental cooperation has secured the UN Universal Declaration of Human Rights and numerous subsequent conventions. There are many intergovernmental conferences on human rights and other global issues such as the environment. And where agreements are not reached, or are not satisfactory, this reflects the genuine difference of interest and opinion amongst the different nation-states; it would be wrong for a global government to impose a single policy in these circumstances.


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