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xp_guardian 05-27-2005 08:53 AM

Dreaming
 
ok, i know i have acted stupid on this forum before but this is a serious question. no this isnt a "are dreams windows to the future" thread.
Have you ever noticed that while having a dream you always seem to wake at the best part of the dream. is there a chemical that your body releases? or is it just bad luck or something. i would really like to know.

deposition 05-27-2005 02:27 PM

RE: Dreaming
 
You probably tend to think you always wake up at the exciting part of a dream because that’s when you remember your dream. Remember you dream every time you sleep even if you don't remember it.

That is unless you remember all your dreams...I don't remember mine unless I think about them right after I wake up, which usually only happens if something exciting in my dream just happened, and then I can usually remember what just happened; not much before. I also remember reading that you dream at a much faster rate then thing would happen, although I don’t remember how fast, which would mean that people dream of many things, including exciting things, while they sleep.

pntballa18 05-28-2005 10:52 AM

RE: Dreaming
 
Ok, heres what I think, but it might be confusing.

It seems like you wake up at the best part because that is when you are about to wake up. You start to hear things from the real world and things become more clear. For example, you are about to wake up, and on TV there is a Arnold Schwartzinater(sp) Movie on. You start to dream about the things in the movie, like the gun fights or whatever. But since you are hearing the things in the real world, you start to wake up.

I have no idea if that made any sense to anyone besides me, but thats what I think. Hope I helped you.

blahblah18 05-28-2005 10:53 PM

RE: Dreaming
 
nope, it didn't.. but depo was right so it is superfluous

pntballa18 05-30-2005 09:14 AM

Re: RE: Dreaming
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by blahblah18
nope, it didn't.. but depo was right so it is superfluous

Didnt sound confusing or didnt help?

hydrojakep 05-30-2005 09:49 AM

RE: Re: RE: Dreaming
 
Ever whispered in someones ear when they sleep? That's basically what paintballer was trying to say. It works, but i'm not sure why.

deposition 05-31-2005 11:22 AM

RE: Re: RE: Dreaming
 
He was talking about, if you hear something while you’re dreaming, you often incorporate what you hear into your dream as something in your dream making that sound. Like when Stewie's parents were having sex, Stewie dreamt that he was on a rocking chair rocking back and forth.

bloodyrevenge 05-31-2005 11:50 AM

RE: Re: RE: Dreaming
 
I think sometimes you wake up at the best part of a dream becasue it is something you haven't experienced yet. Like when ever you have a dream where you die you ususally wake up right before you die because you don't know what its going to be like or how its going to feel.

Specialsock 05-31-2005 12:08 PM

RE: Re: RE: Dreaming
 
Hmm Blood Revenge thats a good point, but then how do 12 year olds have wet dreams when they cleary havent experienced sex before?

Tonberry_Kid 06-2-2005 06:37 PM

RE: Re: RE: Dreaming
 
when you remember your dreams your not in a too deep of sleep...its just enough for you to wake up from a dream...and when you sleep heavy, like i do(i never have dreams, which btw sucks totally)you have dreams you remember....although some dreams that i actually remember having...all nightmares....i die and i actually seriously die in the dream...and i dont wake up...and you no those falling dreams???Arent those the coolest ever???lol well supposedly you die when you hit that ground and dont wake up...i have had that happen to me a couple of times....and about the sound thing....its true someimes...and some ppl converse with you in their sleep lol

dancingmaniac3 06-3-2005 10:32 PM

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As i learned in health class, Dreams only last about 5 minutes...which is about 5 minutes before you wake up. Naturally, when you dream, you are about to wake up. Usually, you dream about 5 minutes before you wake up the natural way; alarm clock, ur body says to wake up, etc. I sometimes think that supernatural causes make you dream before you wake up under all circumstances...like...its as if your body knows you're about to wake up by someone waking u up, a friend waking u up, etc...so u have a dream right before. anyway. yeah. i learned that your dreams are only like 5 or less minutes long which is why you remember them so well. Ppl usually think they have an all-night dream. not true. the rest of the time, when ur not dreaming, your body is an in almost-dead state. your REM (rapid-eye-movement, which is the number of times ur eyes move side to side in ur sleep) increases rapidly as your sleep becomes deeper. So basically, you're almost dead for up to 7 or 8 hours. awkward, but true. My teacher once referred to sleeping as being stoned: you enjoy it so much that you dont want to wake up, just as if you enjoy being stoned so much u dont want to be un-stoned, or u want to do it again lol. anyway, yeah, thats my 2 cents.


I personally like those dreams where u randomly fall of a random object to your death or to the ground of some sort....and when u hit the ground, your body has a reflex reaction and your body physically shakes as if it came in contact with the ground. those are kewl.

Also...sometimes dreams are only like "flashes" of events. like you only see like 4 seconds of a part of a multiple dream sequence. except some other parts u see like up to a minute of it. thats why sometimes when you try to explain a dream to someone, you never quite know what u were doing in that locatoin or why or how you got there.

blahblah18 06-4-2005 09:31 AM

RE: Re: RE: Dreaming
 
its not 5 mins before you wake up, its 5 minutes near the end of ever sleep cycle... sleep ccles last 45 minues, therefore, many a dream

dancingmaniac3 06-4-2005 11:26 AM

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yet, you still kinda wake up. you wake up from your "sleep cycle," even if that means not physically opening your eyes...which is sometimes why u see different dreams in one night, ur right.

knuckles 06-15-2005 10:56 PM

I'd like to bring up the topic of "lucid dreaming".
I haven't been to these forums in a VERY long time so I don't know how familiar any of you are with this topic. Anyway, as a quick refresher, lucid dreaming is just a term for being fully aware that you're dreaming and being completely in control of the dream.
I had one of those dreams once, and it sparked my interest in dreaming. I was able to control my environment, but was unable to control the people around me. It was fairly simply to control where I wanted to be, and who was around me, but the people around me never moved. Unfortunately, I woke up before I could do any more "testing", and I've yet to have another dream quite like that.

I'd also like to add that I've died in my dream before. I was killed by zerg-like aliens at the mall, and instead of being in first person, the point of view went into third person and I watched my body lay there until I woke up. Bizarre indeed.

GuidoHunter 06-15-2005 11:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by knuckles
I'd also like to add that I've died in my dream before. I was killed by zerg-like aliens at the mall, and instead of being in first person, the point of view went into third person and I watched my body lay there until I woke up. Bizarre indeed.

I did that, too, kind of. I was escaping a concentration camp with some Jews when some officer caught us. We were inside a building and we all hit the deck, but he burst through the door, looked to his right (right at me), and fired his pistol. I felt the bullet enter my head and I knew I was dead, but I remained in first-person. I could hear the screaming and shooting that was going on, but I couldn't see anything or move (what with being dead and all).

--Guido

http://andy.mikee385.com

AlbinoLime 06-16-2005 02:06 AM

Re: RE: Re: RE: Dreaming
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dancingmaniac3
As i learned in health class, Dreams only last about 5 minutes...which is about 5 minutes before you wake up. Naturally, when you dream, you are about to wake up. Usually, you dream about 5 minutes before you wake up the natural way; alarm clock, ur body says to wake up, etc. I sometimes think that supernatural causes make you dream before you wake up under all circumstances...like...its as if your body knows you're about to wake up by someone waking u up, a friend waking u up, etc...so u have a dream right before.

I don't think that makes any sense at all, how do you know when you are going to wake up? You could be having a dream and be woken up in the middle of the night by some random noise outside, like a car crash or something. Your body doesn't know that the noise will occur, so it can't start the dream 5 min before something that it doesn't know is going to happen. The supernatural maybe, but probably not. You can't just say that the supernatural is the reason we dream right before we wake. The supernatural would have to control the whole night's sleep, not just the 5min before waking part. The sleep cycle idea makes more sense, but I still don't think that has to do with what you're talking about.

Problems 08-6-2005 09:16 PM

Bump'd.

Most of my dreams are "lucid dreams". I know that I am dreaming, and I always try to fly or like spit fire because I realize it's a dream but it never works. And to the dreams that incoporate things that are going on in real life around you, I once had a dream that someone was stabbing me around my nose, but I woke up soon after and realized it was just my mom touching my face because she had came home from work late that night but I was already asleep.

Whoa run on sentence.

Tps222 08-7-2005 03:59 PM

People who can lucid dream rock. I wish I could do it. I really don't remember my dreams anymore, but I never remember a dream of me dying or falling, which is weird according to my friends, as they say they have all had them.

Guido, you would be a sucky refugee :)

Pinsy14 08-7-2005 09:31 PM

Tps I couldn't agree more with you. I am completely jealous of people who can/do lucid dream. I know that personally I have had maybe one or two lucid dreams, but I'm pretty sure being aware that I was dreaming just made me wake up. How unsatisfying. Anyway, dreaming is good sh*t. I wish I did more of it but unfortunetly I am a very deep sleeper myself, and concurring with someone's post I read not too long ago, I think that when you recall dreams when you wake up, it is because you were not totally asleep, or in a lighter sleep. Also I guess I can use that to answer the question at hand. Perhaps most people wake up during the best part of the dream is because; 1 they are in a lighter sleep, and 2 getting subconciously excited (or aroused) from a good part of a dream, forces them to wake up. Who knows for sure. I'd like to find out more about it if anyone finds any websites of experiments involving dreams and what not, let me know. Just as a side note, I've also heard that some people actually can have up to 200 dreams an average night of sleep, because they are infact accelerated, but I'm not certain on this idea.

Skikamukazi 08-7-2005 10:32 PM

People have many sleep cycles as they sleep at night. During the first few, there are usually no dreams. As you sleep longer and longer, the dreams are "imprinted" into your short term memory. As your body begins to wake up, it recognizes the last dream you had and erases the others from your short term memory. You will usually only remember the last dream you have at night.

There are exeptions to this, however, for example; not too long ago I woke up remembering three dreams I had that night.

There are also situations where you dream that you are having a dream. (The dream in a dream Idea) When this happens, the brain keeps a dream going after the sleep cycle has ended. The old dream is incorporated with the new dream, usually because you dream of yourself falling asleep. When this happens, your brain usually denies this double dream from being imprinted into your short term memory. As I stated above, there may be exeptions to this.

There are other dreams that I don't feel like getting into, such as "sleep walking".

"Sleep walking" occurs when your brain relates a dream to an everyday activity and the body responds as if it were the natural thing to do. For example, Back when I was Five years old, I went sleep walking. I walked down the stairs into the main living room where I asked my mom when dinner was going to be ready. It was 11:30'ish PM. When I was Five, I would always take a nap before going downstairs for dinner. Apparently, when I went to bed that night, I had a dream about going downstairs for dinner, which is when my body "realized" that it was time for me to go downstairs for the daily routine.

There are many other variations of dreams, which I don't feel like going into.


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