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Mipha 09-17-2020 08:53 PM

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gotta submit smth i guess

Puzzler64 09-17-2020 09:34 PM

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From 1500m (personal record) all the way to this!!! Extremely lucky run!

badman7772 09-17-2020 10:00 PM

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Round 4

D1: Bicycle Break
D2: Less Talk More Rokk (Mark Saunders Remix)
D3: Rise Up
D4: Christmix 2014
D5: Bubble Bath Aftermath
D6: Little God Ch@nnel
D7: The Ordeal Becomes Great
D8: Blackmagik Blazing


Sponcon

A lot of time was grinded in the two sponcons from last round. Perhaps so much so that some players may have forgotten what the end-goal was. It's okay though. I'm here to help you get back on track.

In this sponcon, your task is to submit a passing score on FFR on what your favorite song/stepfile combination and describe why you picked your submission. This can come from any of the other engines outside of FFR's if you so choose. Complete this task and receive 4,000 credits!

There won't be a competition this time. You've got a long song to play this round and you'll need to use your energy this round to conquer it.


This round will end on Monday, September 21st at 11:59 Server Time

badman7772 09-17-2020 10:04 PM

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Should also mention this is a FFR sponcon, so submit it like you would a regular tournament submission.

PS. Sponcons for Round 3 will hard-close when the clock strikes midnight. Anything posted later will not be accepted.

_Zenith_ 09-17-2020 10:25 PM

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XJ-9 09-17-2020 10:39 PM

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Seeing how Nikita got a blackflag on an 87 today, I'm assuming I'll have to AAA this to stay tied with him. Might be able to pull it off, but it's definitely gonna be a rough ride for the rest of the tourney.

Ultimate Mike7 09-17-2020 10:42 PM

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Probably not gonna improve in the span of the next hour or so.


Seoulslayer 09-17-2020 10:54 PM

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Did not have as much time for this round unfortunately, but I grinded out crazy ball lol.
Here's those.



euphoriakisses 09-17-2020 10:57 PM

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Mr54supernoob 09-17-2020 11:12 PM

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late submission for the previous round. Didnt get to play as much as I had anticipated so heres this bad score

XJ-9 09-17-2020 11:14 PM

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For the round 4 sponcon, one of my favorite files/songs currently in FFR is Spaceman by Kola Kid, with the stepfile by Kommisar. As to why, I'm a bit of a sucker for chiptune styled music, specifically when it's more on the melodic end. (A big part of that is from all the gaming I did growing up.) The file is fun as hell for me to play, and it's one of the few where I play it just for the sake of playing it.

Puzzler64 09-18-2020 12:34 AM

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No idea how I even pulled this off the 1st time!

Many, MANY attempts! Came nowhere near my old score...

Hakulyte 09-18-2020 08:43 AM

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Pretty unhappy with this, but FFR doesn't seems to be my friend with stability atm. I'll try to look into it.



spon: Pretty simple reason here. I think it's a good warm up song. Having issues for getting a good score unfortunately.


popo55 09-18-2020 09:26 AM

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SK8R43 09-18-2020 09:55 AM

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Pretty dissapointed, not gonna lie...was getting 9g runs before this and aaaing the long one hand trill part every run. Literally got the good on the note right after it lol
Not playing again probably. That left jacky part is so hard



FlynnMac 09-18-2020 10:58 AM

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That's it. Last Trip for the meme.

CammyGoesRawr 09-18-2020 12:07 PM

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hitting the big peeb on the first try in months. possible sdg?



as for the sponcon, Mathsma Attack has always been one of the first songs that got me into Blitz Lunar, and chiptune as a whole (specifically this kind of energetic chiptune that strikes a balance between melodic flow and erratic bleep bloops and other noises. The chart does the song justice in alot of ways that I love, keeping the energy from start to end and even before I started being able to play it well, I found myself playing it alot and loving what kommisar did to make it what it is.

It's one of the only three 90+ charts I have over 500 plays on, the others being J'ai Envie de Plaisir X2 (nowhere near a favorite, i just grinded it many times) and 12 Bar Bloops. 9 years later, I still find myself constantly playing it.


SoFast 09-18-2020 02:34 PM

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placeholder unless i forget to update

XJ-9 09-18-2020 04:45 PM

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I had to spend a good amount of time on this one, but it paid off once I studied a few of the parts I was inconsistent on. (Mainly how one of the jump jack patterns transitioned out.)

Going into this tournament, I saw my potential at a 79 AAA limit if I put in a lot of work. Glad to be pushed to that!

Ipu Maipants 09-18-2020 04:47 PM

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First try at the song, wasn't expecting that ending honestly. Sucks I lost the fc lol


Ecoli 09-18-2020 05:17 PM

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radioamor 09-18-2020 05:20 PM

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Round entry, tentative as I feel I can improve this:


Sponcon:
Glitchcraft really stands out among the other 92s (save for the two legacy files, of course). I really enjoy the extreme contrast between the two halves of the file, the first of which I usually play on autopilot and the second that requires absurd discipline and attention. Playing charts with boring patterns and lazy jumpstreams to artificially increase difficulty is such a perfunctory and rigid form of a "challenge" for me, so I vastly prefer how technical the second half of Glitchcraft is. I probably won't ever AAA it, and it seems today I can't even FC it, but I have an absolute blast playing it since I haven't yet found a chart on FFR that makes me perform these wild patterns at insane speeds. It's faithful to the music and must have taken an excessive amount of time to perfectly chart, so I really appreciate how well made this file is.


Ecoli 09-18-2020 05:22 PM

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Sponcon:

Reason: I like it.

Ipu Maipants 09-18-2020 05:53 PM

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Updated score, got the fc


axith 09-18-2020 06:47 PM

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for round 3. late submission.


Round 4

badman7772 09-19-2020 12:36 AM

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Updated to here. Nice favorites so far!

Ecoli I halfway didn't want to count your reason but I didn't specify yet that reasons couldn't be half-assed. :P

Half-assed reasons just for a submission going forward will not be accepted.

Matthia 09-19-2020 02:22 AM

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woops i was a little late here


PaigePrefer22 09-19-2020 02:39 AM

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Pizza69 09-19-2020 02:41 AM

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Hoping to improve this to a low-mid SDG, but a non-terrible starter:


For the Sponcon, that award's gotta go to Antigravity. The song slaps to begin with, and file matches its intensity perfectly with its heavy layering and colourful bursts. The flow of the file is impeccable, which is particularly impressive given that for the most part the patterns aren't exactly cheesy--even the minijacks feel very fluid and fun to hit. Everything just feels right. An actual 10/10.

HBar 09-19-2020 03:44 AM

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My favorite song/stepfile combination is Ball of Malt. I'm not usually into country songs, but this one just rolls so well, and the stepfile rolls right along with it. When I first came back to the game after 13 years this is one of the fist difficulty 20+ songs where I got a FC, because every note just felt right. And the jack is good practice for novice players (or intermediate players in my case because I still didn't hit it perfectly).

Snupeh 09-19-2020 07:01 AM

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Zoobin4 09-19-2020 08:28 AM

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Another late submission but this time I don't have an excuse, blackmagik score probably tomorrow because I couldn't get a good score today.



Akaunei 09-19-2020 11:49 AM

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https://imgur.com/a/EAuSA2q

csoup1414 09-19-2020 02:35 PM

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For now


Sponcon
The reason I picked the legacy CIA Rave is when I first started playing FFR, I thought this was like, the hardest song ever. I really like how it sounds and this was the first "hard" song that I FC'd. I just thought the constant streams were super advanced and I remember getting really excited when I was finally able to FC it. I still have yet to AAA it lol but I really like playing it. It gives me a sense of nostalgia. The song just makes me happy and I know this is a legacy file because it doesn't quite fit the standards of the website now...but I like this version more than v2
Also the score sucks because I need to trim my nails lol but it's not about the score, right? =)

Janko2000 09-19-2020 04:15 PM

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Round 4 - Rise Up
https://photos.app.goo.gl/nbfsnSFwAgYhZZsb7
SCORE UPDATE 1
0 =>89975
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4th Sponcon
https://photos.app.goo.gl/RbNhRgGLLB5KzaE17
https://photos.app.goo.gl/RefSFQpE9y2fg3HW7

I picked 2 my most favorite songs, because I canīt choose between them which is my most favorite...

I chose "Guitar vs Piano" because I like Piano-styled songs and specially
in this song is mixed with guitar. I firstly heard it and play this song about 3 years ago
in SCGMD 4 game on Kongregate online game site. (SCGMD 4 is very similar game as FFR but not depends on notes perfection/awesome...hit... Is only about FCing all songs...)

Second song I chose "Sunless Daybreak" because of nostalgia from adventure mobile game "Furdiburb" which I played it firstly about 6 years ago and which also have an amazing sountrack and story.
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Snupeh 09-19-2020 04:37 PM

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All I can say that I fell in love with this song when I first listened to it and then no matter how many times I heared to it on any VSRG game, it never made me bored of itself. So, it still keeps its throne in my heart like the day I listened to it for the first time. Actually, I also love DJ Sharpnel's Gate Openerz and Takecore of Yourself but I think BF2014 has a different place for me according to these.


BigHayden1 09-19-2020 06:09 PM

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ill fix this soon, cant be asked rn cause im 2 days rusty

niope 09-19-2020 06:29 PM

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cup 09-19-2020 07:16 PM

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Phew...

PaigePrefer22 09-19-2020 09:08 PM

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Late Submission (I know there will be a penalty it was just super fun to play)

XtraFestive 09-19-2020 09:28 PM

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This was really stressful beyond what I imagined going into this chart. Glad to get this out of the way properly.

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For the Sponcon I chose Miserable Bastard. It's quickly become one of my favorites in FFR due to the short burst of intensity it gives. The constant trills are really satisfying to hit and the length makes it easy to jump back in for more attempts. (also 2nd 1.1x AAA woo!!)

Cryolien 09-19-2020 09:48 PM

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oof

badman7772 09-19-2020 10:55 PM

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Updated to here. Still digging y'alls picks. Figured I'd share mine.



I chose Divinity because it was the first FFR song to ever get stuck in my head. Every session back in 2007 I would play it a lot since there was no other way to listen to the song as it wasn't even on YouTube either. It marked the end of a school year and the start of what would go on to be great things ahead. The file was also great too for back in the day. It helped me master rolls and stuff.

Pizza69 09-20-2020 03:54 AM

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Improvement by 2 raw goods.

Hakulyte 09-20-2020 09:15 AM

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Slight improvement.

csoup1414 09-20-2020 03:19 PM

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My heart jumped in my throat when I literally just didn't push the key. My finger touched it and just never pressed it down =(


BigHayden1 09-20-2020 03:47 PM

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Puzzler64 09-20-2020 04:06 PM

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For the SponCon, I chose party 4u "holy nite mix" v2. I found this song to be a bit too easy for a difficulty of 67! Sure, it's a legacy song, offsync, but still an easy 67. Even many 50s I can't even handle!! How is it even possible I can handle this one?!

Bach96 09-20-2020 05:55 PM

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Dirtiest FC ever lmao


EDIT: Sponcon!
This file has been my favorite relatively recently. iironiic is honestly a terrific step-artist with very similar taste in music to myself. This song gives me goosebumps in like 3 different parts. Despite being almost 3 minutes long, it never feels that way. Probably one of the most well stepped files on the site if I am being honest!

PS: FINALLY GOT THE FC HOLY S#!T

Kitty11296 09-20-2020 06:01 PM

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soooo... thought they were week rounds. my b

Kitty11296 09-20-2020 06:03 PM

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Logman6656 09-20-2020 07:04 PM

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Sanjixcon 09-20-2020 08:41 PM

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dang i suck at this one

badman7772 09-20-2020 09:17 PM

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Updated to here. Still a lot of blanks for round 3 and this round. Submit round 3 now and only get -100 off score.

Mr54supernoob 09-20-2020 11:43 PM

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I can't remember if i submitted this already so here it is

PaigePrefer22 09-21-2020 02:13 AM

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SponCon R4 Song Submission: Mindless Self Indulgence (aka MSI) Straight to Video

MSI is my all time favorite band I picked this song because I have loved MSI's music even longer than when I first discovered FFR over 13.5 years ago. I remember seeing this song and being so excited that my favorite game had a song from my favorite band.

That said- MSI (since its experimental counterculture industrial electronic rock to put it in the simplest of terms <3) has so many AMAZING tracks that can potentially be AMAZING FFR songs. Anyone out there love MSI and want to make them into some songs for me? Lol

Also- MSI's newest music is the album Euringer. Best album I've heard in 10 years. The album has vocal guests like Grimes, Serj Tankian (System Of A Down), and Gerard Way (My Chemical Romance). This is also an entire album that can be made into FFR songs.

Honestly, I wish I could make an MSI server lol

Aery 09-21-2020 07:50 AM

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Sponcon: Comptine D'un Autre Ete Techno Mix

This song is actually really close to me because this was the first song i learnt to play on the piano. I remember all those struggles I made in order to learn this song as I did not have good hand independence.
When I joined FFR 4 months back, I was new to VSRG games. I randomly searched up this song and to my surprise this song was there. It was my dream to FC this song. It took me like around 1000's of attempts to FC this song (with like 100 boos) which once again reminded of the struggles I had while learning it on the piano.Thus, this is also one of my favorite songs in FFR.


SK8R43 09-21-2020 08:40 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Puzzler64 (Post 4743320)
For the SponCon, I chose party 4u "holy nite mix" v2. I found this song to be a bit too easy for a difficulty of 67! Sure, it's a legacy song, offsync, but still an easy 67. Even many 50s I can't even handle!! How is it even possible I can handle this one?!

Songs are mainly rated on a factor of getting the aaa. Plus, the background is what made it a 67. It's not bad at all without it. With it, and all blue notes a few parts are pretty damn hard. I couldn't get the aaa until the new engine had the no background option. I had 2 clean for yearssss lol
Marisa stole the precious thing is the same way. I had a bf until no background. It's so hard to read, but it's pretty simple without it.

Nikita3006 09-21-2020 10:10 AM

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Idk what is the problem but I can't set an AAA-score on this. This feels weird. Rhythm is inconsistent and I can't play it normally like other charts. As XJ-9 mentioned, I've completed much more harder charts here. Maybe the problem is in unstable weather and continuous headaches. Anyway, I won't stop participating in this tournament until a big trouble happens. Hope I'll be able to finish all 6 rounds.

badman7772 09-21-2020 11:04 AM

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All these song picks are really good ones. I'm not just saying this. All those songs either got stuck in my head way back when or I just played them a lot, just didn't merit a #1 spot for me.

coolkidameer 09-21-2020 11:46 AM

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https://photos.app.goo.gl/k6FfxvZDYmADKA938
Raw Score: 68,325

SK8R43 09-21-2020 11:46 AM

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Spon con: Southern cross has always been my favorite song on here. I really like the song, but also the chart is pretty well rounded in terms of patterns and a good warmup for sure. I have 236 plays on this, and thats because I used to literally play it every single session back when I One Handed lol




Also, i played the D6 file just for LULs and yup...im still garbage. But apparently i would have tied my best of 29-0-3-1 on it if i had missed one less XD


MyNameIsNothing 09-21-2020 12:24 PM

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improvable for sure but for now

radioamor 09-21-2020 02:22 PM

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Updated score. I'm assuming you have already retained my Sponcon so I don't need to post that again.

FlynnMac 09-21-2020 02:39 PM

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I would have preferred Blue Rose by a massive fucking landslide, I HATE OHT dependent files like this one.

FlynnMac 09-21-2020 02:46 PM

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This isn't the best run, but I love this one since it just makes for a very good jumpstream practice file, plus it's my highest AAA :)

kadef 09-21-2020 07:15 PM

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Probably just playing for 2nd at this point. Would have been nice to not miss at the end XD


axith 09-21-2020 07:45 PM

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Todays favorite song goes to.....Heavenly Spores. It was one of the songs that introduced me to chiptunes (blitz lunar in particular). The chart seemed impossible for a long time, and turned out to be one of my first fmo AAA's. Still play the song occasionally. And it's made its way into being one of the alarms on my phone in the morning. Fun chart, fun music, will play again.


Sanjixcon 09-21-2020 08:35 PM

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Kitty11296 09-21-2020 09:07 PM

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kainivy 09-21-2020 09:13 PM

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Matthia 09-21-2020 09:41 PM

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badman7772 09-21-2020 10:00 PM

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Round 5

D1: Emotional Adventure
D2: Butterflies (Short Edit)
D3: Nintendon't
D4: Colibri
D5: MEPHISTO
D6: Sayonara Cosmonaut
D7: _.Pulse
D8: Mishnu


Sponcon

I'll say it again. Your favorite songs from the previous round's sponcon were amazing! There was like, only one song that wasn't picked including my pick that was part of my eye-opening soundtrack from my good ol' High School days. I'll definitely say you all nailed it! Now to reward you with a very random Family Guy infomercial...but with a twist.

Bacon in a cup,
Bacon in a cup,
Bacon ehn uh cup!

That's right! In this sponcon you're going to play Put-Bacon (in a cup!) Your objective is to to literally have bacon strips land inside the cup (most of the time from the pan) to score a point. There is a very hefty learning curve to this though. Submit a score of 5 points or higher and you'll win 5,000 credits! The top 5 players will each win an additional 15,000 credits for a total of 20,000!

Oh and back to the picks. Name the song that wasn't picked by myself and other previous sponcon participants that I would have wanted to see picked. If you guess correctly, you win 20,000 credits! If you guess wrong, you have to wait until 5 different people post their picks in order for you to try again. Failure to follow this rule will DQ you from this sponcon. The hint should already be somewhere here, and don't ask for it. You won't need to post a score on your selection, just post your guess.

One last thing. Remember to post OS timestamps and proof of FFR login for the non-FFR sponcon. Haven't counted one without either of of these yet, and it won't start now.


This round will end on Friday, September 25th at 11:59 Server Time

Seoulslayer 09-21-2020 10:01 PM

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I unfortunately thought I would have more time for this round, so I did not collect a score for my favorite stepfile.

Either way, there are many files that I really like. Of them all, I would have to pick Black as my favorite, primarily for my journey with it. This was one of the first songs that I actually recognized when I started playing almost three years ago. Homestuck might not have been as big a part of my life as other people's, but it was still a lovely webcomic, and this song was iconic. Playing it for the first time terrified me. I thought it was absolutely impossible, something I would never be able to play. Feeling my proficiency with it grow as I got better and better at the game was remarkable. Every time I had played it, it would feel less and less daunting. Now, I have a blackflag on it and am wondering how I ever thought it was impossible.

badman7772 09-21-2020 10:04 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Seoulslayer (Post 4743423)

I unfortunately thought I would have more time for this round, so I did not collect a score for my favorite stepfile.

Either way, there are many files that I really like. Of them all, I would have to pick Black as my favorite, primarily for my journey with it. This was one of the first songs that I actually recognized when I started playing almost three years ago. Homestuck might not have been as big a part of my life as other people's, but it was still a lovely webcomic, and this song was iconic. Playing it for the first time terrified me. I thought it was absolutely impossible, something I would never be able to play. Feeling my proficiency with it grow as I got better and better at the game was remarkable. Every time I had played it, it would feel less and less daunting. Now, I have a blackflag on it and am wondering how I ever thought it was impossible.

you got 3 hours left. you can do it. :)

XtraFestive 09-21-2020 10:23 PM

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Sponcon submission:


Lpoool 09-21-2020 10:32 PM

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I thouhgt it ends in 3 hours...

https://imgur.com/L9QmJV5
I'm rusty recently and didn't like the chart...

Ultimate Mike7 09-22-2020 12:14 AM

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At least i got the SDG, woop.


Sponcon:
I wouldn't say i have an exact favorite (let alone for anything.) but i am a sucker for nostalgic songs, but if i had to pick a song on the spot it would definitely be Starman, not really based on the file itself but the song itself freaking bops for me! As soon as i started playing this song back in 07 and started collecting tokens, i listened to this song and wanted it super badly! Unfortunately at the time it was locked behind one of the hardest requirements which can now be cheesed with offsets but when i unlocked this about in 2010-11, i played this everyday just listening to the bop that is this song. Everytime i play this i always get a wave of nostalgia over me and even goosebumps because it's got that certain charm for it. Bonus points for the unintentional equiv number on this lol and played it 1-handed for the hell of it because that's probably how i would've played this as back in the day.

Cryolien 09-22-2020 01:37 AM

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i can't play this good

HBar 09-22-2020 01:48 AM

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Sponcon:


I'm guessing the missing song is Beethoven Virus, that's the one that got stuck in my head more than any other during FFR's early days.


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