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hi19hi19 02-27-2018 09:44 PM

How Does Pad Even Work
 
Been playing at least an hour of pad consistently 4 times a week this year. Been trying to git gud and also get in shape.
I've still just got an old RedOctane Ignition foam pad - it's nice one, but it is just foam - but I have built myself a dank bar setup that is super sturdy and feels a lot like the arcade, so that's nice.


Crossovers! This has become my go-to warmup song. Except that I got this score a month ago and I still can't beat it because my brain is disabled now or something.



175 BPM broken stream shits from a Touhou pack. I bet nobody will know this file because tbh it's not a great file, but I am so damn tantalizingly close to going to the moon.

I cannot go to the moon.

Feels bad.



Another obscure file, but this is a legit 11 by the old ITG scale and I can consistently pass it now, which feels good. Shoutouts to Nathan haHa nice song



Can consistently pass this now too, even though it's not pretty lol
It's a fun file but the shit that goes to the main melody with the candles and then you have to repeat notes on the same foot, man fuck that stuff. I prefer the stream sections any day.
My best is 67.26%DP but apparently I forgot to screenshot that run so have this instead.




Ye Olde Macks Three Hundred Score
You can tell from the life graph that my stamina is still shit. It's a work in progress.
Also how the fuck do you do the jacks at the end. Is there some secret foot-flopping technique or do I just need to get better at stanky leg



Not going to post "accuracy" scores because I don't want to burn everyone's eyes.
Yes I'm aware I consistently hit either way too early or way too late and I can't find a scroll speed that fixes this problem.
I always sucked balls at accuracy scores even on keyboard so maybe I just stop trying to be accurate and just go fast? Footspeed is more fun to me anyway lol

Anyway, suggest packs for me to get and songs for me to play please THANKS FOR READING <3

Psychotik 02-27-2018 09:57 PM

Re: How Does Pad Even Work
 
I'm gonna plug my own pack I made like six years ago lmao. Haven't stepped anything years but the pack is still super solid and some of my best work.

Kraezymann 02-27-2018 09:59 PM

Re: How Does Pad Even Work
 
Man, Energizer HD is so much fun. Gratz on the pass!

Also hot damn you seem to be around my current skill level. RIVALS?? I need motivation!

hi19hi19 02-27-2018 10:03 PM

Re: How Does Pad Even Work
 
I should probably mention here's all the packs I already have:


Shit like DDR Hottest Party and Mario Mix are in there for ~nostalgia~ btw lol


Quote:

Originally Posted by Psychotik (Post 4610681)
I'm gonna plug my own pack I made like six years ago lmao. Haven't stepped anything years but the pack is still super solid and some of my best work.

Aight will check it out next time I play

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kraezymann (Post 4610683)
Man, Energizer HD is so much fun. Gratz on the pass!

Also hot damn you seem to be around my current skill level. RIVALS?? I need motivation!

lol you're on
lmk what scores you're proud of and I'll try to beat em >:]

Energizer is fun for me mostly because it's such a dope song.
I vastly prefer the Standard difficulty 9 chart; I hate the candle pattern/repeated foot shit in Heavy so much but I still love to play it largely because the song is fire

Kraezymann 02-27-2018 10:05 PM

Re: How Does Pad Even Work
 
Aight famalam hit me up with a few of them packs that aren't DDR or ITG and then I will take you on. I've been waiting for a moment like this for a bit now.

LETS DO IT

hi19hi19 02-27-2018 10:10 PM

Re: How Does Pad Even Work
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Kraezymann (Post 4610687)
Aight famalam hit me up with a few of them packs that aren't DDR or ITG and then I will take you on. I've been waiting for a moment like this for a bit now.

LETS DO IT

As for songs not from DDR or ITG, check this one out:
It's fun as fuck, just a sampler of all the patterns I need to get better at in one file lol

SICKOVENOMOUS 02-27-2018 10:11 PM

Re: How Does Pad Even Work
 
Never seen anyone play pad on etterna, in till today, that's narly dude

Kraezymann 02-27-2018 10:17 PM

Re: How Does Pad Even Work
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by hi19hi19 (Post 4610690)
As for songs not from DDR or ITG, check this one out:

Aight I'm gonna get some of those packs. Meet me at the monkey bars after school and I'll TAKE YOU DOWN!!!

FirstMaple8 02-27-2018 11:00 PM

Re: How Does Pad Even Work
 
I wouldn't play pad in etterna if i were you

rayword45 02-28-2018 01:46 AM

Re: How Does Pad Even Work
 
download the tachyon packs

or more srsly mute sims and hopscotch mix (nostalgia liek fuq someone get a song by chuck in the game)

Mollocephalus 02-28-2018 03:45 AM

Re: How Does Pad Even Work
 
you're missing out on the majority of the best pad content out there, let me suggest you some new banger packs! Also, the best pad experience comes with simply love for sm5.

Monstercat minipack, fraxtil's beast beats, fraxtil's arrow arrangements, dl them here:
https://fra.xtil.net/simfiles/ (you will also find some stamina files but they might be overkill at this point)

trancemania 3: http://www.mediafire.com/file/xung11...nceMania_3.rar
(if you like long streamy files with multiple difficulties you should look for 1 & 2)

3guys1pack:
https://xrgtmx.github.io/3guys1pack

notice me benpai
https://www.dropbox.com/s/vwxinzd2eb...enpai.zip?dl=0

all of mute sims:
http://r21freak.com/phpbb3/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=23564

all of mute resyincs, including some old DDR mixes:
http://r21freak.com/phpbb3/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=20851

here is a list of the latest released pad packs in the latest year, although not all of them might be for you.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...#gid=803099864

You're missing out also a lot of files from mudkyp, mootz, joe, sudziosis, the latest valex and talon packs and more but i don't know if you're willing to download like 4 gigs of stuff all at the same time so up to you. www.divinelegy.com, www.r21freak.com and the group "DDR + ITG players" on facebook are the best places to look for and ask for pad files.

If you're feeling REALLY BRAVE here is a community dropbox with basically ANY pad pack ever made https://www.dropbox.com/sh/o9t6z8n3g...Tb8oa/R21?dl=0

(yes i've been playing a lot of ITG)

ilikexd 02-28-2018 10:11 AM

Re: How Does Pad Even Work
 
"another obscure file"

what level of irony are we on here

i'd upload my 25-30 pad files but sadly they're like itg 13 at a minimum

ddr_f4n 02-28-2018 12:35 PM

Re: How Does Pad Even Work
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by hi19hi19 (Post 4610679)
175 BPM broken stream shits from a Touhou pack. I bet nobody will know this file because tbh it's not a great file, but I am so damn tantalizingly close to going to the moon.

I cannot go to the moon.

Feels bad.

I will tell CondorTalon that. :V

Also, how do you have GPOPS I and II, but not my third one yet? SMH

hi19hi19 02-28-2018 02:56 PM

Re: How Does Pad Even Work
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by FirstMaple8 (Post 4610694)
I wouldn't play pad in etterna if i were you

lol why not

- I only have one pad so the fact Etterna is single-player only makes no difference to me.
- The amount of performance and scoring data kept by Etterna is, to my knowledge, far above any other Stepmania theme or even 4k VSRG I've ever seen. I find that awesome. Graphs are pretty! Plus occasionally I'm actually serious and want to be able to analyze my play.
- I'm not playing anything difficult enough to warrant wanting the different timing windows of StomperZ or whatever shit the absolutely nuts players are using now.
- I'm not that interested in mod courses at the moment; if I was, I'd get OpenITG or something for the two player capability but I have no need for that right now.
- Etterna has a search function.

Tell me why I shouldn't use Etterna

Quote:

Originally Posted by SICKOVENOMOUS (Post 4610691)
Never seen anyone play pad on etterna, in till today, that's narly dude

See this guy gets it
Etterna is sweet

Quote:

Originally Posted by ilikexd (Post 4610722)
"another obscure file"

what level of irony are we on here

like,, maybe 5, or 6 right now. my dude

hi19hi19 02-28-2018 03:07 PM

Re: How Does Pad Even Work
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rayword45 (Post 4610700)
download the tachyon packs

or more srsly mute sims and hopscotch mix (nostalgia liek fuq someone get a song by chuck in the game)

I actually have all of these packs on a different harddrive:


I'm keeping them there because nearly everything in them was too hard for me when I got them and it was taking a while to load.
I'll definitely go put Mute Sims back in my main songs folder and see if I've gotten good enough to enjoy them

also realtalk I can't do many of the Tachyon files with my fingers

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mollocephalus (Post 4610709)
you're missing out on the majority of the best pad content out there, let me suggest you some new banger packs! Also, the best pad experience comes with simply love for sm5.

Monstercat minipack, fraxtil's beast beats, fraxtil's arrow arrangements, dl them here:
https://fra.xtil.net/simfiles/ (you will also find some stamina files but they might be overkill at this point)

trancemania 3: http://www.mediafire.com/file/xung11...nceMania_3.rar
(if you like long streamy files with multiple difficulties you should look for 1 & 2)

3guys1pack:
https://xrgtmx.github.io/3guys1pack

notice me benpai
https://www.dropbox.com/s/vwxinzd2eb...enpai.zip?dl=0

all of mute sims:
http://r21freak.com/phpbb3/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=23564

all of mute resyincs, including some old DDR mixes:
http://r21freak.com/phpbb3/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=20851

here is a list of the latest released pad packs in the latest year, although not all of them might be for you.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...#gid=803099864

You're missing out also a lot of files from mudkyp, mootz, joe, sudziosis, the latest valex and talon packs and more but i don't know if you're willing to download like 4 gigs of stuff all at the same time so up to you. www.divinelegy.com, www.r21freak.com and the group "DDR + ITG players" on facebook are the best places to look for and ask for pad files.

If you're feeling REALLY BRAVE here is a community dropbox with basically ANY pad pack ever made https://www.dropbox.com/sh/o9t6z8n3g...Tb8oa/R21?dl=0

(yes i've been playing a lot of ITG)

Thanks! Will check em all out.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ddr_f4n (Post 4610732)
I will tell CondorTalon that. :V

Also, how do you have GPOPS I and II, but not my third one yet? SMH

Serious criticism if you're actually going to tell him lol:
First half of the file rhythms don't feel right to me. I know they probably are, but they're super un-intuitive and I wind up just hitting them like 12ths not because I'm lazy or can't do the proper rhythm, but because the proper rhythm kinda feels off. That said I have no idea how I would step that section at this difficulty level in a different way so eh, who am I to complain
EDIT- upon looking in DDReam I have confirmed the rhythms are definitely correct. Conclude: I'm the one who's bad and not this part of the file
The offbeat notes in the section before the final stream make sense as a way to get your life back but they're also definitely not what I would have stepped in that section and they feel weird to hit too. Honestly my biggest gripe
Difficulty curve is pretty all over the place. But I guess that's the point lol

That said, I still enjoy the file so idk, it's probably better than I'm giving it credit for. It's definitely doing its job of motivating me to get better, it's super frustrating how many times I've barely failed it.

Also, grabbing third pack.

rayword45 02-28-2018 03:09 PM

Re: How Does Pad Even Work
 
Does etterna have chord cohesion? That'd be a deal breaker on pad if not

hi19hi19 02-28-2018 03:14 PM

Re: How Does Pad Even Work
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rayword45 (Post 4610746)
Does etterna have chord cohesion? That'd be a deal breaker on pad if not

p. sure the version 0.54 I have is from before it was removed

If not then ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ guess I fucked up
I'm still improving at the game though, that would only mean I can't compare my scores with anyone else which tbh I don't really give a fuck about.
Can still have a rival like Kraezymann even if we're only roughly comparing how we do on files instead of being able to exactly measure relative DDR epenis sizes down to the micron

Honestly though I'm open to changing, tell me which theme I should be using. I'll miss my graphs and my actually having a goddamn search function tho


EDIT- yeah chord cohesion was removed in 0.55, I still have it

Wayward Vagabond 02-28-2018 03:22 PM

Re: How Does Pad Even Work
 
Want to be pad rivals

hi19hi19 02-28-2018 03:24 PM

Re: How Does Pad Even Work
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Wayward Vagabond (Post 4610749)
Want to be pad rivals

if u wanna fite me bro post some scores

rayword45 02-28-2018 05:20 PM

Re: How Does Pad Even Work
 
Simply Love is tournament standard theme

Mahou 02-28-2018 05:28 PM

Re: How Does Pad Even Work
 
Make videos

AutotelicBrown 02-28-2018 06:41 PM

Re: How Does Pad Even Work
 
In later Etterna versions you can re-enable chord cohesion by changing the DisableChordCohesion flag on preferences.ini.

ddr_f4n 02-28-2018 10:16 PM

Re: How Does Pad Even Work
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by hi19hi19 (Post 4610745)
Serious criticism if you're actually going to tell him lol:
First half of the file rhythms don't feel right to me. I know they probably are, but they're super un-intuitive and I wind up just hitting them like 12ths not because I'm lazy or can't do the proper rhythm, but because the proper rhythm kinda feels off. That said I have no idea how I would step that section at this difficulty level in a different way so eh, who am I to complain
EDIT- upon looking in DDReam I have confirmed the rhythms are definitely correct. Conclude: I'm the one who's bad and not this part of the file
The offbeat notes in the section before the final stream make sense as a way to get your life back but they're also definitely not what I would have stepped in that section and they feel weird to hit too. Honestly my biggest gripe
Difficulty curve is pretty all over the place. But I guess that's the point lol

That said, I still enjoy the file so idk, it's probably better than I'm giving it credit for. It's definitely doing its job of motivating me to get better, it's super frustrating how many times I've barely failed it.

Also, grabbing third pack.

I can show him this, but it's been a while since that pack was released, so our charting styles has both improved and probably changed as well :V

Kraezymann 03-29-2018 06:45 PM

Re: How Does Pad Even Work
 
That's etterna, not stepmania. It's Mina's creation, focused more for keyboard but still easily used for pad. Provides better score info but doesn't have chord cohesion which you might want for DDR

DossarLX ODI 03-29-2018 07:09 PM

Re: How Does Pad Even Work
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Reincarnate (Post 4614655)
chord cohesion?

It's the concept that if you have more than one arrow in the same placement (e.g. 4th) it is only treated as a hit if all arrows are hit.

A quad/all four arrows will be a miss unless all four arrows are hit. Without chord cohesion, you can hit 3 notes but miss one in the quad.

dAnceguy117 03-29-2018 10:04 PM

Re: How Does Pad Even Work
 
you're obviously gonna know what that means, but just to put in a super easy comparison that gets overlooked IMO: ffr does not have chord cohesion

TheSaxRunner05 03-30-2018 12:54 PM

Re: How Does Pad Even Work
 
Fun fact - this is not another thread about puzzles and dragons


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