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reuben_tate 12-13-2017 12:38 PM

Re: Benguin's (and Xel's!) Rates Tourney #2 (Registration Open)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TheToaphster (Post 4601368)
If you use R^3 as well it is good to note that the "Raw Good" value that is given after each map is a way to immediately see how many goods you have (it uses the same math/method that reuben discussed) without having to pay attention to score. I'm pretty sure this is only in the R^3 engine but I'm not sure.

Just putting that out there for anyone who doesn't know

How have I not seen this feature? O.O Thanks a bunch for bringing this up xD

Quote:

Originally Posted by DDRNSTPMGMX (Post 4601371)
ok im starting to get it. So you generate an X amount of goods and the goal is to get the RAW goods the same or less than the generated number? Like for example 20 raw goods. I could get like 10 goods 10 boos 1 miss and 3 averages which is 19.8. Is that what you are talking about? Also we would need to get the amount of raw goods or less in 0.05 rate intervals trying to get the fastest interval without going over the raw goods that was generated?

Exactly, I think you got it ;) Just to clarify, the rates do need to be multiples of 0.05, but you don't need to do every 0.05 increment (i.e. you don't need to start at 1.00x, then go to 1.05x, then 1.10x, then 1.15x etc. You can start out by playing at 1.50x if you want and if you get within the required number of goods, then great! From there you can try 1.55x or if you felt that 1.50x was still easy, you could try jumping to 1.60x. We'll just take the fastest rate you can do it at, you don't need to play every single 0.05 increment).

The reason for the 0.05 increments is because we don't want people 1-up'ing each other by adding an unnoticeable amount to the rate (i.e. we don't want a situation where someone is like "oh, you played it on 1.4x rate? Well, I was able to do the song on 1.400000000000000001x rate!") Changing the rate by 0.05 is still at a level where it is noticeable. Anything less than that starts becoming less noticeable, so we felt like 0.05 was a good increment value.

Hope that answers your question!

reuben_tate 12-13-2017 12:38 PM

Re: Benguin's (and Xel's!) Rates Tourney #2 (Registration Open)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by XelNya (Post 4601366)
I'm so glad you're good at math so I don't have to be bothered

c:

XelNya 12-13-2017 12:43 PM

Re: Benguin's (and Xel's!) Rates Tourney #2 (Registration Open)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TheToaphster (Post 4601368)
map

Also, we don't play maps here.

:troll:

DDRNSTPMGMX 12-13-2017 12:59 PM

Re: Benguin's (and Xel's!) Rates Tourney #2 (Registration Open)
 
yes it ansered my question and no wonder you guys did 0.05 increasments and i appreciate the help :D also i dont know if you know but im in :V

reuben_tate 12-13-2017 01:12 PM

Re: Benguin's (and Xel's!) Rates Tourney #2 (Registration Open)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by XelNya (Post 4601366)
I'm so glad you're good at math so I don't have to be bothered

Quote:

Originally Posted by DDRNSTPMGMX (Post 4601383)
yes it ansered my question and no wonder you guys did 0.05 increasments and i appreciate the help :D also i dont know if you know but im in :V

no problem~

Also we've already added you to the participants list and the tournament spreadsheet (both found in the OP).

DDR_Anna 12-13-2017 03:13 PM

Re: Benguin's (and Xel's!) Rates Tourney #2 (Registration Open)
 
As an enthusiast of competition and credits I'm interested

Soundwave- 12-13-2017 07:06 PM

Re: Benguin's (and Xel's!) Rates Tourney #2 (Registration Open)
 
haha look at these nerds competing at rhythm games



Okay yes I'd like to participate too.

XelNya 12-13-2017 07:08 PM

Re: Benguin's (and Xel's!) Rates Tourney #2 (Registration Open)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Soundwave- (Post 4601446)
haha look at these nerds competing at rhythm games



Okay yes I'd like to participate too.

Nerd.

FirstMaple8 12-13-2017 07:49 PM

Re: Benguin's (and Xel's!) Rates Tourney #2 (Registration Open)
 
IM IN

Soundwave- 12-13-2017 08:27 PM

Re: Benguin's (and Xel's!) Rates Tourney #2 (Registration Open)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by XelNya (Post 4601447)
Nerd.

n-no u v-v

Tarrik 12-13-2017 10:31 PM

Re: Benguin's (and Xel's!) Rates Tourney #2 (Registration Open)
 
Really wishing i hadn't injured my left hand the other day. Hoping it will be usable before the end of round one..

awein999 12-14-2017 12:14 AM

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prec told me to - innerino

SoFast 12-14-2017 12:49 PM

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in

XelNya 12-14-2017 01:37 PM

Re: Benguin's (and Xel's!) Rates Tourney #2 (Registration Open)
 
Spreadsheet is tentatively updated to here.

beary605 12-14-2017 02:04 PM

Re: Benguin's (and Xel's!) Rates Tourney #2 (Registration Open)
 
sign me up :D
hype

-paexaea- 12-14-2017 07:01 PM

Re: Benguin's (and Xel's!) Rates Tourney #2 (Registration Open)
 
Eh. Screw it, add me.

sherellegirl 12-14-2017 11:54 PM

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COUNT ME INTOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO =]

iSquishy 12-15-2017 07:07 PM

Re: Benguin's (and Xel's!) Rates Tourney #2 (Registration Open)
 
I'm in!!! :)

this is also my first time posting on the forums. lol

Elmerz 12-15-2017 08:42 PM

Re: Benguin's (and Xel's!) Rates Tourney #2 (Registration Open)
 
I'm in

prongsie 12-16-2017 12:12 AM

Re: Benguin's (and Xel's!) Rates Tourney #2 (Registration Open)
 
Am down for this, pls sign up :)

reuben_tate 12-16-2017 01:53 PM

Re: Benguin's (and Xel's!) Rates Tourney #2 (Registration Open)
 
Updated to here!
A few notes:
-TheLegendofPie, you're the only person in D3 which is a bit of an issue. We'll finalize divisions by the end of the first round so hopefully we can get something figured out.
-We've reached 50 participants! Thanks guys for the awesome turnout so far :)
-Thanks to SoFast, TheLegendofPie, and -Blue7- for donating!
-Xel and I have a plan for official backing which means extra moar credits and TOKENS!. We'll let you know after event staff approves~
-We're gonna start round 1 early, so I hope y'all are ready! (^)>~

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Soundwave- (Post 4601446)
haha look at these nerds competing at rhythm games
Okay yes I'd like to participate too.

NERD.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tarrik (Post 4601588)
Really wishing i hadn't injured my left hand the other day. Hoping it will be usable before the end of round one..

Sorry to hear :( Round 1 is a week long, so hopefully that'll be a good amount of time for your hand to get better!
Quote:

Originally Posted by beary605 (Post 4601673)
sign me up :D
hype

Hype!!
Quote:

Originally Posted by iSquishy (Post 4601791)
I'm in!!! :)

this is also my first time posting on the forums. lol

Thanks for joining and welcome to the forums!

reuben_tate 12-16-2017 02:04 PM

Re: Benguin's (and Xel's!) Rates Tourney #2 (Registration Open)
 

(We're starting a little early here folks~)
Round 1
(Round 1 and Signups end Saturday, 12/23, 10PM server time)

Song Name: Happy Happy Shining Star!! [Light]
Max # of Goods: 22
Min Raw Score: 21,650

~Enjoy~

FirstMaple8 12-16-2017 02:09 PM

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Count me In

reuben_tate 12-16-2017 02:13 PM

Re: Benguin's (and Xel's!) Rates Tourney #2 (Registration Open)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by FirstMaple8 (Post 4601885)
Count me In

We already have you up on the participants list and the spreadsheet :)

DarkZtar 12-16-2017 02:25 PM

Re: Benguin's (and Xel's!) Rates Tourney #2 (Registration Open)
 


This feels like playing mutant corecore

TheToaphster 12-16-2017 02:29 PM

Re: Benguin's (and Xel's!) Rates Tourney #2 (Registration Open)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by XelNya (Post 4601377)
Also, we don't play maps here.

:troll:

Ah shoot u right osu!mania bitches are shunned around these places forgot /s

One Winged Angel 12-16-2017 02:41 PM

Re: Benguin's (and Xel's!) Rates Tourney #2 (Registration Open)
 


could probably go higher (a lot higher if I had my old laptop aarrghh)

-Blue7- 12-16-2017 02:43 PM

Re: Benguin's (and Xel's!) Rates Tourney #2 (Registration Open)
 
those tripple jacks are so messed up

beary605 12-16-2017 02:47 PM

Re: Benguin's (and Xel's!) Rates Tourney #2 (Registration Open)
 
forgot that I'm bad at jacks :( not gonna do so well haha

Hakulyte 12-16-2017 02:56 PM

Re: Benguin's (and Xel's!) Rates Tourney #2 (Registration Open)
 
Placeholder.


One Winged Angel 12-16-2017 03:03 PM

Re: Benguin's (and Xel's!) Rates Tourney #2 (Registration Open)
 


less than a good away from 3.25 aarrghh, 3.4ish probably where I'd cap out

edit: nope my kb literally won't register the second note in a minijack at faster speeds

I'm hoping the round picks aren't all going to force jacks as the dominant skill tested because I have horrible kb actuation issues for faster jacks

Hakulyte 12-16-2017 03:32 PM

Re: Benguin's (and Xel's!) Rates Tourney #2 (Registration Open)
 
Feels like gambling.



Edit: Can we use mirror ?

DDRNSTPMGMX 12-16-2017 03:42 PM

Re: Benguin's (and Xel's!) Rates Tourney #2 (Registration Open)
 
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1PH...x0ug5Q32JTblci
i could probably do better :V

reuben_tate 12-16-2017 03:52 PM

Re: Benguin's (and Xel's!) Rates Tourney #2 (Registration Open)
 
I'll try to be answering any questions/concerns as they come up. Will update the spreadsheet in one batch later tonight.

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Quote:

Originally Posted by One Winged Angel (Post 4601926)
I'm hoping the round picks aren't all going to force jacks as the dominant skill tested because I have horrible kb actuation issues for faster jacks

Nice scores nonetheless! Xel is doing the song picks...I'll be sure to relay to him that we want to test various types of ffr skills/patterns :)
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hakulyte (Post 4601941)
Feels like gambling.

Edit: Can we use mirror ?

Gambling, how so? XD
To answer your question, both mirror and non-mirror are acceptable.

SoFast 12-16-2017 04:18 PM

Re: Benguin's (and Xel's!) Rates Tourney #2 (Registration Open)
 
placeholder.. was 2 goods away from 3x :(

Precarious 12-16-2017 04:29 PM

Re: Benguin's (and Xel's!) Rates Tourney #2 (Registration Open)
 
Even going from 1.85 to 1.9 felt like a huge difference. :S

https://i.imgur.com/5vqFdGY.png

EDIT: Well, quick improvement at least.


SoFast 12-16-2017 04:34 PM

Re: Benguin's (and Xel's!) Rates Tourney #2 (Registration Open)
 
wooo... maybe i can go higher?


EDIT: Yes I can... barely got this one lol. almost got 3.1x on several occasions but this'll do for now.

XelNya 12-16-2017 04:43 PM

Re: Benguin's (and Xel's!) Rates Tourney #2 (Registration Open)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by reuben_tate (Post 4601944)
I'll try to be answering any questions/concerns as they come up. Will update the spreadsheet in one batch later tonight.

=====================================



Nice scores nonetheless! Xel is doing the song picks...I'll be sure to relay to him that we want to test various types of ffr skills/patterns :)

Gambling, how so? XD
To answer your question, both mirror and non-mirror are acceptable.

What I'm hoping to get are files that test varying patterns, and files that equally test your ability to execute long and short songs.

There is absolutely going to be a round with a longer song choice. I'm trying to pick under two minutes predominantly though.

ositzxz369 12-16-2017 05:00 PM

Re: Benguin's (and Xel's!) Rates Tourney #2 (Registration Open)
 
So a round lasts a week, and people have that amount of time to improve their rate/score?

Edit: I didn't see that screenshot option above, should I crop out the image for this one?


Charmoeleon 12-16-2017 05:13 PM

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This'll do for now.

DDR_Anna 12-16-2017 05:20 PM

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unyu

suicidaln00b 12-16-2017 07:17 PM

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Precarious 12-16-2017 07:31 PM

Re: Benguin's (and Xel's!) Rates Tourney #2 (Registration Open)
 
22 goods exactly is still within the threshold, right?


PrawnSkunk 12-16-2017 07:58 PM

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To start off.


Tarrik 12-16-2017 08:05 PM

Re: Benguin's (and Xel's!) Rates Tourney #2 (Registration Open)
 
Placeholder i suppose. Still waking up. What are those triple jacks lol.

juckter1 12-16-2017 09:07 PM

Re: Benguin's (and Xel's!) Rates Tourney #2 (Registration Open)
 
Placeholder, wish I wasn't trash at jacking


Tarrik 12-16-2017 10:10 PM

Re: Benguin's (and Xel's!) Rates Tourney #2 (Registration Open)
 
I think this is better than my 2.6x idk

One Winged Angel 12-16-2017 10:48 PM

Re: Benguin's (and Xel's!) Rates Tourney #2 (Registration Open)
 
I'm gonna propose you guys change how scoring works for this tournament. If best in each division is simply largest additive of all rates for each round, it places substantial emphasis on early rounds where tacking on increments of 0.05x doesn't impact the difficulty nearly as much as it would for higher difficulty charts.

There's going to be massive rate disparity between players early on with the easier files, but this will diminish as difficulty ramps. If each round is weighted equally, later round performance will mean next to nothing when players are within .1x of each other (despite satisfying the good threshold on a 95 .1x above another player in the same division being vastly more impressive than being .1x ahead on a 20)

awein999 12-16-2017 10:57 PM

Re: Benguin's (and Xel's!) Rates Tourney #2 (Registration Open)
 
i have spent a lot of time playing flashflashrevolution on flashflashrevolution.com in the past

HardstyleLover 12-16-2017 11:14 PM

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storn42 12-16-2017 11:29 PM

Re: Benguin's (and Xel's!) Rates Tourney #2 (Registration Open)
 
had i better one that i forgot to save or something. either way have a starting score.

Elmerz 12-16-2017 11:37 PM

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It's a start


supermoe1985 12-17-2017 01:24 AM

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RenegadeLucien 12-17-2017 01:28 AM

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bad

Gir 12-17-2017 03:27 AM

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this score has been surpassed in this post





this score has been surpassed in this post

Andrew WCY 12-17-2017 03:28 AM

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Agh. Those jacks.


Gir 12-17-2017 04:56 AM

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the road to 2.0~





AWWW SHEEEIT JUST MADE IT HAHAHA

Zoobin4 12-17-2017 07:18 AM

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this is what happens when i try to upload a score and i don't know how to fix it

Zoobin4 12-17-2017 07:58 AM

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pls save me

Andrew WCY 12-17-2017 08:02 AM

Re: Benguin's (and Xel's!) Rates Tourney #2 (Registration Open)
 
Maybe you can upload the screenshot of your results to a website such as Google Drive or Imgur, and insert its link here.

Sometimes the image will appear like the icon in your post, but if you right-click the icon, you can open the image in a new tab and view the image.

Zoobin4 12-17-2017 08:04 AM

Re: Benguin's (and Xel's!) Rates Tourney #2 (Registration Open)
 
i have tried opening the image in a new tab and it doesn't work so ill try to upload it to something like google drive

Zoobin4 12-17-2017 08:08 AM

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ok this works thank for your help

FirstMaple8 12-17-2017 02:46 PM

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FirstMaple8 12-17-2017 02:50 PM

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rushyrulz 12-17-2017 03:31 PM

Re: Benguin's (and Xel's!) Rates Tourney #2 (Registration Open)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Zoobin4 (Post 4602222)


ok this works thank for your help

use imgur buddy

mrpreggers 12-17-2017 05:02 PM

Re: Benguin's (and Xel's!) Rates Tourney #2 (Registration Open)
 
has me out of breath

iSquishy 12-17-2017 07:23 PM

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MERRY UNCE UNCE CHRISTMAS UNCE UNCE

xXOpkillerXx 12-17-2017 08:04 PM

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I suck at jacks go easy on me pls


xXOpkillerXx 12-17-2017 08:05 PM

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Oops ffr doesnt like long links I think


xXOpkillerXx 12-17-2017 08:10 PM

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Yeah w/e I'll take this very temporary first place


Fantasticone 12-17-2017 10:02 PM

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Pizza69 12-17-2017 10:04 PM

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this is such cancer lmao, idk how much i can improve this

Kawaii025 12-17-2017 11:33 PM

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Placeholder for now.


Took me less tries to AAA this on rates than it did when I was originally going for the AAA. :|


xXOpkillerXx 12-18-2017 12:12 AM

Re: Benguin's (and Xel's!) Rates Tourney #2 (Registration Open)
 
Was gonna keep this but probably would forget to post

first 27 seconds get I guess


Pizza69 12-18-2017 10:27 PM

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I swear this is like the best jack score i've ever gotten
Lmao I'm so bad at jacks

sickufully 12-18-2017 10:46 PM

Re: Benguin's (and Xel's!) Rates Tourney #2 (Registration Open)
 
Mashing my way to victory. First try on 2.6 as well







rushyrulz 12-18-2017 11:00 PM

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TheLegendofPie 12-18-2017 11:15 PM

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TheLegendofPie 12-18-2017 11:31 PM

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was struggling at 1.65 so i turned it up and this is my cleanest attempt yet?? idk how


rushyrulz 12-19-2017 03:54 AM

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keep goin!


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