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DossarLX ODI 05-29-2017 09:49 AM

Re: How to hit walls of death without vibrating
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Rapta (Post 4554993)
Is there currently a tutorial on how to do overlay setup?

Not that I know of. Some players here have used it before.

Shadow_God_10 05-29-2017 10:07 AM

Re: How to hit walls of death without vibrating
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DossarLX ODI (Post 4554991)
Ok so that is almost 250 BPM 16ths. Basically, overlay setup is when you have a keyboard that is sensitive enough to allow for two fingers to hit on the same key without having to entirely lift up your finger.


I'm a visual guy so looking at my keyboard (I use qwop) I would use all 4 fingers on qwop from pinky to index on qw on my left hand and index to pinky on op on my right? Is that how that works?

DossarLX ODI 05-29-2017 10:26 AM

Re: How to hit walls of death without vibrating
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Shadow_God_10 (Post 4555000)
I'm a visual guy so looking at my keyboard (I use qwop) I would use all 4 fingers on qwop from pinky to index on qw on my left hand and index to pinky on op on my right? Is that how that works?

For a roll on all four arrows, you'd need to use 8 fingers total.

In your case, you could do the following.

Left Hand
- Pinky and ring fingers for q
- Middle and index fingers for w

Right Hand
- Index and middle fingers for o
- Ring and pinky fingers for p

Because of how cramped and uncomfortable that setup is, it makes sense that the hits are mostly like quads.

Rapta 05-29-2017 10:34 AM

Re: How to hit walls of death without vibrating
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DossarLX ODI (Post 4555003)
For a roll on all four arrows, you'd need to use 8 fingers total.

In your case, you could do the following.

Left Hand
- Pinky and ring fingers for q
- Middle and index fingers for w

Right Hand
- Index and middle fingers for o
- Ring and pinky fingers for p

Because of how cramped and uncomfortable that setup is, it makes sense that the hits are mostly like quads.

Once you get used to it you won't have much trouble transitioning during songs, and it becomes more comfortable to use.

Rapta 05-29-2017 10:36 AM

Re: How to hit walls of death without vibrating
 
I will make a tutorial video on how to do it probably tomorrow.

MinaciousGrace 05-29-2017 02:16 PM

Re: How to hit walls of death without vibrating
 
tbh i prefer layover setup

that's where you huddle in a corner of a dubai airport for 9 hours between each note

rushyrulz 05-29-2017 02:31 PM

Re: How to hit walls of death without vibrating
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DossarLX ODI (Post 4554996)
Not that I know of. Some players here have used it before.

I used it to AAA PWND

Untimely Friction 05-29-2017 07:10 PM

Re: How to hit walls of death without vibrating
 
I'd argue that I don't think that's quiiiite legit, pretty sure that was described as 1 finger 1 button, 2 fingers 1 button while adhering to not double setup, and while requiring reasonably more skill, is still kinda crapbaskets, not everyone will have a keyboard that even allows it making this legit strat an actual expense, I don't think it should be outlawed to specify, but I'm not impressed at cheese, and there are a lot of other signs I've seen that rapta might DS, I'd really like a hands video of this strat, I don't see it as totally fesible to simulate cohesive quads at that speed with 8 fingers, it doesn't make sense to me, especially given the transition and near AAA of the pre vibra roll wall, but given you shoulda AAA'd the pre-vibra roll I can understand that you might have been setting up during that roll, it still seems pretty lame tho.

Edit: the other reason I feel this, but that might have been resolved, is that you're recently returning and I don't believe you have the stam for this yet, at least I'd seen you drop out of some files for stam reasons, but you doooo play a lot.

Really though posting this kind of thread, it's pretty reasonable to be asked to show a hand video heh

V-Ormix 05-29-2017 08:21 PM

Re: How to hit walls of death without vibrating
 
oh i was hoping you found a way to twitch jack with rist and compound motions better than me... I am disappointed :v

Rapta 05-29-2017 11:02 PM

Re: How to hit walls of death without vibrating
 
This is pretty bad for a tutorial but I can't do the tutorial I wanted because my good camera is being annoying.
Once I fix my camera I will do a professional tutorial

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sboRnEdQcdg

Rapta 05-29-2017 11:08 PM

Re: How to hit walls of death without vibrating
 
This is definitely a legit method, I have two god given hands and I am using the 4 keys mapped to the 4 receptors. I tried it with a Logitech k120 and it didn't work but again I got this keyboard so I wouldn't have the problem of not being able to press 3 or more keys at the same time, it makes playing unfairly hard because to attempt to hit triples or quads you have to hit two separate jumps or a jump and a note which can screw with you at high levels of play. This is a technique that would mainly be used at high levels of play as well. Also just because it is a somewhat difficult technique to learn, and you need a decent keyboard to do it with, doesn't disqualify this being able to be a "actual expense".

Rapta 05-29-2017 11:12 PM

Re: How to hit walls of death without vibrating
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Untimely Friction (Post 4555173)
Edit: the other reason I feel this, but that might have been resolved, is that you're recently returning and I don't believe you have the stam for this yet, at least I'd seen you drop out of some files for stam reasons, but you doooo play a lot.

Really though posting this kind of thread, it's pretty reasonable to be asked to show a hand video heh

The technique doesn't use much stamina
I posted a video that is unlisted but I linked it in the thread

Sidek 05-30-2017 01:15 AM

Re: How to hit walls of death without vibrating
 
i would like to see how than fast can vibrate attang using that way.

MinaciousGrace 05-30-2017 02:15 AM

Re: How to hit walls of death without vibrating
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Rapta (Post 4555427)
This is definitely a legit method, I have two god given hands

i do not consider invoking divine aid as legit

Rapta 05-30-2017 02:24 AM

Re: How to hit walls of death without vibrating
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MinaciousGrace (Post 4555631)
i do not consider invoking divine aid as legit

lmfao

DossarLX ODI 05-30-2017 09:09 AM

Re: How to hit walls of death without vibrating
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Sidek (Post 4555625)
i would like to see how than fast can vibrate attang using that way.

That is dependent on whether or not a key will register when two fingers are hitting two different spots on the key. If it is the case that the keyboard allows two fingers to hit one key like that, it could go past 400 BPM 16ths for a jack if the player is already doing 200+ normally.

Shadow_God_10 05-30-2017 09:13 AM

Re: How to hit walls of death without vibrating
 
I doubt this would work on a laptop kb

Untimely Friction 05-30-2017 11:33 AM

Re: How to hit walls of death without vibrating
 
Okay I concede defeat, but it still doesn't look fun so screw that

Walrusizer 05-30-2017 11:53 AM

Re: How to hit walls of death without vibrating
 
but that requires you to use a disgusting key setup

YoshL 05-30-2017 12:28 PM

Re: How to hit walls of death without vibrating
 
people overlayed on shift for the crowdpleaser trill

¯\_(ツ)_/¯


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