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MinaciousGrace 03-9-2017 11:21 PM

THREAD MOTHAFUCKAS MINTY 2 BITCHES NEW PACK YEAH
 
YOU KNOW WHAT I WANT

IF YOU DONT

THEN DONT SEND ME ANYTHING







NO DEDLINE BUT START GETTING UR SHIT DONE AND SEND IT BECAUSE JUST CAUSE IM LAZY DOESNT MEAN YOU CAN BE


outright acceptance will be reserved only for the best submissions, everything else will be either denied or tentatively approved and the best ~60 files will be trimmed from the conditional pool in the weeks leading up to release

exceptional scoring files are welcome but dont send me stepmanias music unless ur file was forged from the fucking tears of an orgasming angel

edit: if you dont want me to put little to no effort into graphics for your file then dont send me gfxless files or files with shitty meme placeholder gfx, get someone to do a nice set and i'll respect it otherwise i'll replace it with one of the top 3 hits from a google or deviantart search of your songs title

edit2: released files (released in a pack, single releases are ok) will not be considered since lofty and i require the ability to work with people on their charts during the pack creation process, so unless you're committed to significantly altering an already released chart to the degree that it may be considered a restep, don't send it. If you wish to release a file in another pack that has been accepted to the pool, notify me and I'll remove it from the pool.

OK GET CRACKIN DARTDICKS


STUFF IS BEING ORGANIZED HERE
HERE MOTHAFUCKA IT'S A GODDAMN SPREADSHEET


THE MINTY WIPS THAT MAY OR MAY NOT BUT PROBABLY WILL BECAUSE WE'RE COMMITTED TO THEM BE FINISHED FOR THIS PACK
Caribbean Blue
Child's Play
Cuor Senza Sangue
Djurdjevan
Don't Hold your Breath
Drops of Jupiter
I Will Survive
Mahmure
Norf Norf
Rock Lobster
Run Devil Run
Sublunar
The Magic Duel
The Real Folk Blues
Torn
Vatstep DSP
We Belong

choof 03-9-2017 11:26 PM

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you're getting some idm as heck music

James May 03-9-2017 11:35 PM

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Welp there goes my idea of sending my dump for ALONE :U Might whip something up for this

-Tim- 03-10-2017 02:59 AM

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here i go

L.B.D.D 03-10-2017 05:37 AM

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graceful

DeadSignal 03-10-2017 05:55 AM

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k cool

Coolboyrulez0 03-10-2017 08:52 AM

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fuck yes

Flossy97 03-10-2017 09:07 AM

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hype

MSB Khelly 03-10-2017 11:39 AM

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Dont tell skwid

choof 03-10-2017 12:08 PM

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sent a chart

blindreper1179 03-10-2017 12:22 PM

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I'mma be that guy, what are you looking for, I WANT TO KNOW AND MAYBE SEND SOMETHING

choof 03-10-2017 12:33 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by blindreper1179 (Post 4529907)
I'mma be that guy, what are you looking for, I WANT TO KNOW AND MAYBE SEND SOMETHING

good, inspired dump charts to non-stepmania music
aka don't send sharpnel unless you think you're the goddamned pope of dump charts

lofty rhino 03-10-2017 12:41 PM

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^this

YoshL 03-10-2017 01:26 PM

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i can do a thing

Cataclysm- 03-10-2017 03:59 PM

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sheeet, looks like I got work to do.

MinaciousGrace 03-10-2017 10:30 PM

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golden sky (choof) - I'm not exactly excited by jumptrillable 48ths and I feel like you could do something more interesting with those parts of the song, but it's not a dealbreaker either. You could also play around with the rhythmic intensity during the 24ths a little more (particularly during "shine") as well. A little on the short side but, cool tune/file.

tassa elama on (Wh1teh) - I've already mentioned to you directly the slight awkwardness I felt in some of the jumpjack patterns. The short/minijack section starting around 43s feels a little bland to me and could maybe use another once over or restructure? Generally I like the pattern structure but I'll have to play it a few more times for any finer grain comments on pattern flow. Solid scoring file.

MinaciousGrace 03-14-2017 01:44 AM

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eighto (wh1teh) - The song is kinda bland overall in terms of rhythmic dynamic (it's very borderline stepmanias music to me tbh) but it does lend itself nicely to a scoring file, and one that probably has the most natural feeling splithands I've ever played. The harder/scoring focused areas of this chart are well patterned and interesting beyond the generic nature of standard js, but as I've mentioned to you directly as well the slower sections are under-utilized by a large amount and could use a bunch of work. Glad to be getting some scoring files before lofty and I poison the well with our ambularrhea.

In Too Deep (tachyon) - FFR outro, random super long anchors that go to nothing, dense anchor-chain based js that goes to vocals/instrumentals that demand rolly light js at most. Choruses are straight 16th js but don't create a scoring file opportunity because of the huge difficulty spikes caused by anchors and awkwardly placed minichains on top of the 9+ note anchors. The most interesting part of the song, the solo, is also the most generic part of the chart at straight 24ths. Patterns like
that go to no vocal or instrumental cue or any combination of the two are unacceptable. You can't just rechart maximize and submit it with a new mp3. This song calls for a completely different approach and you would have to start from the ground up for this to be reconsidered. And I'd still probably reject it just based on song choice alone.

Love Boat Tracker (swiftwinter) - a) who r u. b) this is really close to getting a straight accepted. Awesome song choice, cool patterns and solid (if a little rough) execution. There are a couple of difficulty spikes I'm concerned about but I need some more time to playtest this to give really detailed feedback on patterns, but with a little refinement this could easily score the first locked spot of the pack. Good stuff.

Wow Wow Wow (scintill) - Ok I really like pretty much everything about this file except the entire first half. It either needs to be cut and start at 140 or a bunch of the sounds you skipped in the first half need to be stepped. Otherwise A+ chart, even if it wasn't really a dump. Still crossing my fingers for a scary halloween show 2 tho.


op is being updated with the files lofty and I are committed to finishing for the pack

lofty rhino 03-14-2017 02:12 AM

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B7Rffmq3uFw

swiftwinter 03-14-2017 03:03 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by MinaciousGrace (Post 4532405)
Love Boat Tracker (swiftwinter) - a) who r u. b) this is really close to getting a straight accepted. Awesome song choice, cool patterns and solid (if a little rough) execution. There are a couple of difficulty spikes I'm concerned about but I need some more time to playtest this to give really detailed feedback on patterns, but with a little refinement this could easily score the first locked spot of the pack. Good stuff.

cool, I knew nobody could resist classic chinese tunes. noticed a very small error that I didn't see before sending though that i'll send a fix to as well as maybe submit 1 more song with it tomorrow if that ok. thanks.

Shxfted 03-14-2017 05:32 AM

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hmm

choof 03-14-2017 02:44 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by swiftwinter (Post 4532433)
cool, I knew nobody could resist classic chinese tunes. noticed a very small error that I didn't see before sending though that i'll send a fix to as well as maybe submit 1 more song with it tomorrow if that ok. thanks.

if this is the XIAO MEI MEI meme then seriously fuck you I had a chart in progress for it

lofty rhino 03-14-2017 03:26 PM

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someone chart this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4is83n8xfLY

blazziken 03-14-2017 05:57 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by James May (Post 4529796)
Welp there goes my idea of sending my dump for ALONE :U Might whip something up for this



This would be goooood!! 8) alone by Marshmello right?

blazziken 03-14-2017 07:17 PM

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can i do this? ( full ver obviously) cuz the song is sad as fuc...

James May 03-14-2017 09:24 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by blazziken (Post 4532601)
This would be goooood!! 8) alone by Marshmello right?

Gigandect's remix actually :U Mina knows how silly the patterns are and it would need massive revamp tbh

contrapatior 03-14-2017 10:17 PM

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has anyone done an xmod dump chart

contrapatior 03-14-2017 10:17 PM

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like I mean good xmod gimmicks but then dumpy patterns

lofty rhino 03-14-2017 10:36 PM

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Not that I've seen?
I did some wonky expressive syncing for hallelujah, but I'd hardly call it x mod

riktoi 03-15-2017 08:41 AM

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gonna see if i can find some non-stepmania music to chart

Arntonach 03-15-2017 02:24 PM

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is video game music not-stepmania-y enough?

lofty rhino 03-15-2017 03:04 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Arntonach (Post 4533212)
is video game music not-stepmania-y enough?

Don't forget that this is a dump pack. From my side of things, I would say vg music is fine.
There's tons of interesting vg music.

MinaciousGrace 03-15-2017 04:22 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Arntonach (Post 4533212)
is video game music not-stepmania-y enough?

to me the term stepmanias musics is a descriptor of style/essence, not origin or even genre

something like the tristram theme/byzantium is fine, but don't send me straight 16ths to a static bpm generic 8bit wannabe track

DeadSignal 03-15-2017 06:55 PM

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guess that's my cue to get crackin' again on my rechart for la notte etterna (hold on to that spot for me pls)



also how in the fuck has our despicably unholy generic african mammal not charted this beauty yet
(I might actually end up doing it myself if I find the time to do it though)

also vatstep dsp hahahaha fucking gay

lofty rhino 03-15-2017 09:16 PM

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this sounds more like a mina thing

Arntonach 03-15-2017 09:34 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by MinaciousGrace (Post 4533251)
to me the term stepmanias musics is a descriptor of style/essence, not origin or even genre

something like the tristram theme/byzantium is fine, but don't send me straight 16ths to a static bpm generic 8bit wannabe track

but what if it had a saxophone solo in the midst?

Oh whatever, I stepped this and I'm just gonna send it.

DeadSignal 03-16-2017 11:00 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by lofty rhino (Post 4533591)
this sounds more like a mina thing

upon re-glycerine glancing flower-dancing upon the thread op and noticing this i hereby completely retract my disapproving stance

THE MINTY WIPS THAT MAY OR MAY NOT BUT PROBABLY WILL BECAUSE WE'RE COMMITTED TO THEM BE FINISHED FOR THIS PACK
Cuor Senza Sangue


the idea of an emma shapplin dump meta revival instance just gets me going so much you have absolutely no idea at all

i hope to god this actually happens

lofty rhino 03-16-2017 11:32 PM

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That song is fucking dope, too.
I'll make sure it gets done.

Xozel 03-17-2017 11:01 AM

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can yolo some shiet, already have an idea on which song

MinaciousGrace 03-18-2017 05:11 AM

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note: released files will not be considered since lofty and i require the ability to work with people on their charts during the pack creation process, so unless you're committed to significantly altering an already released chart to the degree that it may be considered a restep, don't send it. If you wish to release a file in another pack that has been accepted to the pool, notify me and I'll remove it from the pool. Also you guys suck first locked spot is going to this asshole i swear this isnt semiautoism (technically swiftwinter was first but i couldnt resist using the word semiautoism)

restep dsp (lofty) - yeah its good. And what you stinky mother fucker you want something from me?

emerald alice (klaius) - unfortunately this is the lowest energy and least interesting hatsuki yura song I've heard, and the file reflects that. I'm not sure you could have done anything more with the chart to make up for it, and I don't really have any suggestions at the time. It's good enough for the pool but I wouldn't be surprised if it was one of the first cut when the time comes.

Best Friends and Bike Rides (klaius) - ok you've got something pretty nice going on here. My only major complaint is that the 32nds into 4th hands that form minijacks with the 16ths (52s/63s) are not only a good measure harder than anything else, but they feel forced and awkward. Repattern them or just remove the component of the hands that form the minijacks. Also, 78.6s has a 2211 same-hand minijack, which should be repatterened/removed given that no other similar patterns exist within the file. I'd like to see the file extended another 30s or so until the slowdown, but it's not required. With fixes you have my vote for a locked spot.

City of Revelry (Antronach) - You've got me on a fence with this one and my ass is starting to hurt. This is very borderline stepmanias music to me and were it not for both the sax and the way in which you stepped the sax this would be an instant reject. The chart itself is very promising, with emphasis on the promising. I'll get a little more detailed with my comments on this chart.

39-42s: I'd like to see something more creative/interesting to the sax sound here, I think you're missing out on some pretty good opportunity (though I can understand why you have what you do)
64-111.5s: This whole section is too easy and uninteresting and it breaks the flow of the file. This is sort of like writing a murder mystery in which during buildup to the climax you spend 4 chapters on a character that has nothing to do with the rest of the story whatsoever. I don't think much is needed to fix the issue though, I think with a more prominent/rigid jack theory structure you could keep the 16ths you have and it would be fine, you could also consider putting short 32nd or 24th burst patterns to the heavy bass hits. I don't want to beat a dead horse but this entire section really feels like a let down given how much fun the prior minute was.
120-123s: The buildup here could be more heavily layered/interesting, I can understand why you left it as empty as you did if you were giving the player space for the climax however...
123:124.5s: No. I know you can do better than this because you already spent half the file showing me you could. This is way too hard compared to the rest of the file and significant departure from how you charted much of the other sax sounds. The sax is your god in this file, I would abandon trying to layer in the snare(?) hits and do what you've already been doing, weave 48ths/light polys/light 32nd js together here and I think you've nailed the climax and tied up the entire file with a nice ribbon.
128s: I'd like to see a descending 32nd roll here to match the echo of the ascending. This also gives you an opportunity to end the file on a closing note and cut the ffr outro.

I'm adding this to the pool with the expectation of major changes, but unlike some (most?) of the other files in the pool this stands a 0% chance of making it into the final cuts without revision. If you want to keep it as-is and pull it as a submission, that's also fine.

Future Swag (choof) - I assume you're submitting the oni chart. Also, lmao.

Bandira Bandira (lofty) - When HSMP meets 2017. I think you went a little too far with some of the jack sequences in the outro and we can discuss edits later.

Migrant at Daybreak (swiftwinter) - It's like a more playable rockhill. This is also something that I'll have to play a bunch to really get a good grasp on the file, so no comments for now. On the subject of your other submission, I've played the fixed version a couple times through expecting to be able to pick out glaring pattern awkwardness, but I couldn't. I find the 32nd slow trill transitions slightly awkward but that's about it and that could just be me. Both lofty and I are comfortable to bumping this up to locked, though we may still ask for minor changes in the future as the file gets played out more.

choof 03-18-2017 09:19 AM

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i've already released future swag but i'm definitely prepared to make a v2 for da pack

MinaciousGrace 03-19-2017 06:54 AM

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just use an mp3 shitty enough that twitch cant tell the difference problem solved

Xozel 03-19-2017 07:24 AM

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or shuffle and speed that shit up so its an entirely new song

SKG_Scintill 03-19-2017 09:39 AM

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only play on rates

lofty rhino 03-19-2017 11:42 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by MinaciousGrace (Post 4535919)
just use an mp3 shitty enough that twitch cant tell the difference problem solved

Been using this technique for years.

DourGent 03-19-2017 02:52 PM

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woah

Wh1teh 03-19-2017 03:20 PM

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Every Finnish song in existence gets muted because Teosto is fucking nazi

lofty rhino 03-19-2017 03:35 PM

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Telephone (MinaciousGrace)- 11.928-I hear an eight note here--did you intentionally leave this out? 12. 118-I would represent this trill. I really enjoy the patterning of the 32nd notes in the musical section that starts at 24.59. LOL the bouncy, rhythmic pass-and-throw at 36.699 is fucking genius. Also, those 24th alternating jump jacks are really fitting, but at 52.400 another sound is introduced in the bg that you do not represent. See other repetitions where this comment applies. 60.912-the call noise doesn’t end on the fourth, it ends on the eighth. I wouldn’t extend the 1 jack until then, though. Add a 16th after the red note on 3 to make a sort of chain jack. Continue this patterning every time the call noise repeats in this section. Man, those 32nds after the sillyphone section are savage lmao. I guess what I’m really trying to say is I appreciate this a lot, like, ya know, like I don’t say this to everyone, like, this file is pretty cool. I mean, it’s really cool. I’m not going to lie, I’m going to be truthful, you’re a really nice stepfile author. Like, ya know? Cool is cool and what is right with the world. The world spins and so should this file, and like I think it does spin. Ring Ring spinning me right round with this file, I guess. Someone ought to pick up this file cause there’s some phony stuff about it but it’s definitely really chill. Arctic.

MinaciousGrace 03-19-2017 04:01 PM

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ok holden

MinaciousGrace 03-19-2017 04:39 PM

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ps. future swag has been removed from the pool pending the future re-swagging of said future swag

DeadSignal 03-20-2017 02:58 PM

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cool dude but have you reviewed the real telephone file yet

Soul Evans 03-20-2017 05:49 PM

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Is this type of song acceptable for this pack? was thinking of charting this for you guys but don't really know if it's good or not
not really expecting you will accept my file or not so thought i'd give it a go, haha.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SwYd...el=ChrisRayGun

MinaciousGrace 03-20-2017 06:53 PM

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no

MinaciousGrace 03-20-2017 06:54 PM

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i find everything about that video to be a stupid waste of time

MinaciousGrace 03-20-2017 06:54 PM

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i think triggered is the stupidest word to enter the modern english vocabulary

MinaciousGrace 03-20-2017 06:54 PM

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social justice is a false concept

MinaciousGrace 03-20-2017 06:55 PM

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its also a shitty song

MinaciousGrace 03-20-2017 06:55 PM

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with shitty lyrics that scream trying too hard to be a man bro guy

MinaciousGrace 03-20-2017 06:57 PM

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also the guy is bitching about not being able to make money off his video which

who fucking cares

MinaciousGrace 03-20-2017 06:57 PM

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people who whine about sjw's are just as bad as sjw's

MinaciousGrace 03-20-2017 06:58 PM

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actually they're worse

MinaciousGrace 03-20-2017 07:00 PM

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ubOaIhlRX0

here step this instead

DeadSignal 03-20-2017 07:04 PM

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constructivemanias

SKG_Scintill 03-20-2017 07:12 PM

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how's my other file?

MinaciousGrace 03-20-2017 07:17 PM

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i havent felt like writing a detailed review but word on the street is its good

and with some minor revisions would get a flat out accept

DeadSignal 03-20-2017 07:20 PM

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also turns out i really wanna fucking chart this

but not feeling like actually starting it until i'm certain enough about cutting points (if applicable)


also wonder what you guys think of the song itself

DeadSignal 03-20-2017 07:21 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by SKG_Scintill (Post 4536575)
how's my other file?

i can say for certain that it was a very heart-felt love confession to me

MinaciousGrace 03-20-2017 07:33 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by DeadSignal (Post 4536578)


also turns out i really wanna fucking chart this

but not feeling like actually starting it until i'm certain enough about cutting points (if applicable)


also wonder what you guys think of the song itself

58s-178s would be an acceptable cut

SKG_Scintill 03-20-2017 07:34 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by MinaciousGrace (Post 4536576)
i havent felt like writing a detailed review but word on the street is its good

and with some minor revisions would get a flat out accept

sik shit

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeadSignal (Post 4536579)
i can say for certain that it was a very heart-felt love confession to me

gay shit

MinaciousGrace 03-20-2017 09:20 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by MinaciousGrace (Post 4536559)
no

on the off chance i wasn't clear about this seriously do not send me a file for that or any other half ass parody song that involves inane social commentary

DeadSignal 03-20-2017 09:24 PM

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my lyrics are bottomless

just like the abyss as it gazes into me

Soul Evans 03-21-2017 01:50 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by MinaciousGrace (Post 4536615)
on the off chance i wasn't clear about this seriously do not send me a file for that or any other half ass parody song that involves inane social commentary

Hmmm, i only found the song pretty catchy, i care not for what ever that music holds, but i've sent something else instead.

Shxfted 03-21-2017 02:25 AM

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Do you want a really dumb O Fortuna file that I may or may not ever finish

Mourningfall 03-21-2017 03:03 AM

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downloaded etterna yesterday, fell in love after first play

i sent a technical file, probably fun on rates, sorry about the shitty gfx

Soul Evans 03-21-2017 03:17 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by MinaciousGrace (Post 4536571)

Damn i just saw the video, heh

MinaciousGrace 03-21-2017 06:49 AM

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expect the next batch of reviews to roll in later today

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mourningfall (Post 4536733)
i sent a technical file, probably fun on rates

just fyi, as lofty has mentioned before the focus of the pack is dump files, that doesn't mean technical files will be auto rejected (although if you ask him it does) but it means they'll have to be a cut above their competition and good enough to overcome the lofty bias horn

also if you guys are wondering what kind of music to pick-
send me your guilty pleasures
send me music you would be ashamed of other people knowing you enjoy

DeadSignal 03-21-2017 08:38 AM

Re: THREAD MOTHAFUCKAS MINTY 2 BITCHES NEW PACK YEAH
 
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Originally Posted by MinaciousGrace (Post 4536756)
also if you guys are wondering what kind of music to pick-
send me your guilty pleasures
send me music you would be ashamed of other people knowing you enjoy





perfect

thank you for granting me a vessel for my repressed childhood french anime weabooism to finally be expressed

pretty much means i'll have plenty of shit on my plate to work on in light of how busy i've been lately

but i'll see what i can do

DeadSignal 03-21-2017 08:47 AM

Re: THREAD MOTHAFUCKAS MINTY 2 BITCHES NEW PACK YEAH
 
k here's the list of stuff i have on my minty-palatable plate templar template for now

Higher-priority:
Yanni - For All Seasons
Joe Dassin - L'Ete Indien
Marie Dauphin - Clementine

Conditional:
Emma Shapplin - La Notte Etterna (if cuor senza sangue happens)
Within Temptation - The Howling (if time allows and i've taken care of all three)


keeping track of this here for the sake of my own sanity and peace of mind

if anyone has any particular thoughts about it that they would like to express regarding my song choice and whatnot, then by all means go for it

MinaciousGrace 03-21-2017 09:26 AM

Re: THREAD MOTHAFUCKAS MINTY 2 BITCHES NEW PACK YEAH
 
Shape of My Heart (Scintill) - When I looked at this initially in the editor I had some reservations about the file, mostly involving some pattern use and the decision to not cut the file. After playing it some of those concerns have been dissipated. You captured the delicate nature of the song well and this is a welcome departure in pacing/feel both chart and music-wise from the rest of the submissions thus far. That being said there are still a couple of concerns I have regarding some patterns and in general the need for a little bit of pattern variation.

The pair of 48th minijacks at around 32s are jarring and should be removed or repatterned (into triplets?). It doesn't play well to introduce the jack tension so early into the song. The repeated 11222333444 jack patterns become onerous- particularly at 115/120 when they appear in relatively quick succession. Personally I would mirror every other occurrence however if you want to keep the ascending PR of the vocals I would look for an alternative means to represent them (short trills that ascend is the obvious candidate?). After playing the file I think not cutting the latter third/outro is the correct approach, ending shortly after the climax would rob the chart of the sense of closure that the ending affords, however, and this is fairly tricky given the structure of the file and the consistency of the lyrics of the last verse with the rest of the song, I would like to see moderate to significant pattern variation after 220s. Whether this involves some clever use of mirror and slight shifts of notes across columns or full repatterning is up to you, however there should be no sections of the ending/outro that are immediately recognizable from earlier segments of the chart. I tend to think of longer charts as journeys and I like my journeys to end anywhere but where they started. I would also advise looking towards adding some other pattern variation throughout the file however this is not a critical component of review. This file is at the top of the pool for both neon and I and critical fixes would push it into the green zone. "just let him know its good" - neon

Ignite (Fanta) - This file has remained unchanged since you sent it to me initially a long time ago and my comments on it are pretty much exactly the same. I still think this is easily your best file and the song choice is great for the buildup. I also still think there are occasional gross errors in pattern judgment that detract greatly from the file. It'll actually be much easier for me to make the fixes and then send them to you rather than the reverse so that's what I propose, if you want to make fixes on your own I can give you a detailed list of the problematic areas and you can submit fixes. You get a blue stamp conditional upon fixes irrespective of where they come from (assuming they you know, are fixes and don't make things worse somehow).

Now Loading (MourningFall) - Aside from a few odd sections there isn't too much wrong with this objectively as a chart. There are some really cool and interesting patterns, and I especially like the section that starts at 46s. Unfortunately it falls into a number of "not really what we were looking for" categories, most notably the "stepmanias musics" category and the "not really a dump" category. I actually think you could get pretty far with this doing a dumpy/technical hybrid file but I don't know that it would be enough for a resubmission and I wouldn't engage in any serious attempt at one unless you really want to. I think you'd get much more mileage out of your work to date submitting this to another pack for which it is better suited. You'll have a better chance of acceptance with less effort, and more importantly you'll get (I should hope) useful feedback that focuses on and adheres to more traditional charting methods. Also whatever you do cut the ending, it looks hilarious in the editor but I mean come on, really?

Sleepwalking (Phil x Soul) - You've got the right idea about the right idea, but at the risk of sounding any more pretentious than I already do, you've got to clear another conceptual hurdle before you really "get" it. I don't really know how to succinctly provide direct feedback in this area, so before I get too far into it I'll say that you can resubmit this with some key changes that show you understand what I'm saying and this has a high chance of getting pooled.

The dump file continuum ranges from "more or less technically correct only there are 32nds instead of 16ths in some places" (most hi19 dumps exist on this end) to "batshit freeform that tries to convey the subject matter of the music via patterning rather than the actual music" (traintrack theory in orange blossom special). Good and bad dumps exist at every point on the continuum, but what you have here exists too far outside the continuum. Put simply, it's "too technical". If this is a collab between you and another person I should be able to see visible signs of distinct styles and character, but I can't. If I had to take a guess the chart was split half and half, but that would be based solely on minor variation in 32nd patterning.

Files on the "more or less technical" side of the spectrum tend to lend themselves to approachable scoring files, and this is appropriate for the song and for your charting style, but you need to break away from the technical charting mentality just a little more. The only difference between the instrumental introduction and the point at which vocals kick in are more prominent freezes on 4/8/16ths at the onset of individual words. Then you graduate to 32nds almost immediately forming an abrupt transition of patterning that doesn't make sense given the musical gradation of instrumentals->instrumentals with low intensity vocals->instrumentals with higher intensity vocals. There are like a half dozen patterns involving just 24ths that would be more interesting and provide a better transition into the 32nds. The only hint of creativity in the file are the two 48th freeze notes near the 90s mark which, given the file as it is, feel more out of place than anything else. The vocals at 95s/100s stand out and should have much more interesting (sweeping left/right patterns?) that follow them more closely rather than being ignored. You need to spend a little more time picking out the interesting elements of the song that rise above the background and highlight them. The song doesn't give you much opportunity to do this, but that's what makes doing it that much more important. The 32nds at the start are so much easier than other parts of the file, take a little time to insert some flair into them. You don't need to go overboard, but do more than leave half the file as filler. If anything you mostly need to stop representing vocals with freezes. That might work in osumania but in sm it's either unnoticeable or uninteresting.

All that being said this file is, to your/phils credit, actually pretty fun. There are some awkward patterns in the harder sections that can be ironed out but otherwise it functions fairly well as a scoring file. I don't care at all for the song and I won't hold that against you if you resubmit, but you need to show me some originality and creativity if you do. Don't fundamentally change the file, reshape the less interesting sections enough to charm me. Don't give me what you think I want to see, give me what you see. Just look a little harder.

Mourningfall 03-21-2017 11:42 AM

Re: THREAD MOTHAFUCKAS MINTY 2 BITCHES NEW PACK YEAH
 
haha the ending, I've no idea what happened there I just got lazy I guess

Thank you for that mina, sorry to be a waste of time

maybe I'll be able to produce a good dump before your quota is filled, if not best of luck with the pack. looking forward to it's release :mrgreen:


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