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MinaciousGrace 03-21-2017 12:37 PM

Re: THREAD MOTHAFUCKAS MINTY 2 BITCHES NEW PACK YEAH
 
it's not a waste of my time if you learned something

also I'll be loosely reorganizing the pool based on my personal ranking rather than alphabetical with files I think are closest to earning locked spots at the top so people who have pooled files can make better judgments about where they want to place their effort

they won't be hard rankings and unless neon sends me something similar they will be sans his input (which is obviously an important factor)

Soul Evans 03-21-2017 01:15 PM

Re: THREAD MOTHAFUCKAS MINTY 2 BITCHES NEW PACK YEAH
 
Hmmm, i'll think about it

what you said wasn't false either, i thought phil could have done a better intro for it, but it is more technical than it is a dump i agree, at some point i can't really see what to change their except adding a bit variety in patterns and make it more dense with 32nds for vocals, and our intent was to highlight the chorus more, so it's going to be a bit difficult to change it.

So, i don't need a different approach to this file, i can edit the ones you mentioned and it could be accepted even though it's a bit on the technical side?

MinaciousGrace 03-21-2017 01:46 PM

Re: THREAD MOTHAFUCKAS MINTY 2 BITCHES NEW PACK YEAH
 
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Originally Posted by Soul Evans (Post 4536832)
So, i don't need a different approach to this file, i can edit the ones you mentioned and it could be accepted even though it's a bit on the technical side?

this is the one thing you can't do

if you just change what I tell you to change you're never going to learn to look at music differently and you'll just end up doing the same thing over and over again

lofty rhino 03-21-2017 01:48 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Soul Evans (Post 4536832)
So, i don't need a different approach to this file, i can edit the ones you mentioned and it could be accepted even though it's a bit on the technical side?

No. You need to read what Mina said over again. You DO need to take a different approach, because the one you have applied now is not up to snuff. There is no objective way to approach a file, so to claim that you have no other way of charting it after someone has given you the means to do just that is not acceptable. As of right now the file is missing out on a ton of interesting and fun vocal accentuation due to your so called 'technical' approach. Take another look.

Also, to reiterate Mina's point, if you send a 'purely technical' file to this pack (not saying your file is Soul), I will absolutely deny it flat out. I'm not saying that I don't appreciate technical files, or that I refuse to acknowledge the creativity that goes into them, but just that it is not what these packs are about. If you really care to understand what you are sending to, which you should, just look at some of Mina's packs, some of my packs, or (obviously) Minty 1.

SKG_Scintill 03-21-2017 03:01 PM

Re: THREAD MOTHAFUCKAS MINTY 2 BITCHES NEW PACK YEAH
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MinaciousGrace (Post 4536784)
The pair of 48th minijacks at around 32s are jarring and should be removed or repatterned (into triplets?). It doesn't play well to introduce the jack tension so early into the song.

Told csenc about this, they go to the sharp S-sounds of the vocals.
I think they're hilarious, who AAAs anyway.

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Originally Posted by MinaciousGrace (Post 4536784)
The repeated 11222333444 jack patterns become onerous- particularly at 115/120 when they appear in relatively quick succession. Personally I would mirror every other occurrence however if you want to keep the ascending PR of the vocals I would look for an alternative means to represent them (short trills that ascend is the obvious candidate?).

Fair enough, when I ever feel like fixing it.

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Originally Posted by MinaciousGrace (Post 4536784)
however, and this is fairly tricky given the structure of the file and the consistency of the lyrics of the last verse with the rest of the song, I would like to see moderate to significant pattern variation after 220s. Whether this involves some clever use of mirror and slight shifts of notes across columns or full repatterning is up to you, however there should be no sections of the ending/outro that are immediately recognizable from earlier segments of the chart. I tend to think of longer charts as journeys and I like my journeys to end anywhere but where they started.

Apparently you don't know how hearts are drawn.

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Originally Posted by MinaciousGrace (Post 4536784)
This file is at the top of the pool for both neon and I and critical fixes would push it into the green zone. "just let him know its good" - neon

Thx

MinaciousGrace 03-21-2017 03:15 PM

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no i know what they go to im just saying they dont play well, it has nothing to do with aaa'ing or not

i stand by the rest of my comments

ps.

desire of ages best hearts

SKG_Scintill 03-21-2017 03:35 PM

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the shape of your hearts aren't nearly expressive enough
be more free, scrub

lofty rhino 03-21-2017 03:53 PM

Re: THREAD MOTHAFUCKAS MINTY 2 BITCHES NEW PACK YEAH
 
arrows kinda look like hearts

wow, those are a bunch of hearts

Wh1teh 03-21-2017 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Soul Evans (Post 4536700)
Hmmm, i only found the song pretty catchy, i care not for what ever that music holds, but i've sent something else instead.

Why wouldn't you use the original song? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wBgp5aDH23g

SKG_Scintill 03-21-2017 09:15 PM

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sent fix

Fantasticone 03-21-2017 09:16 PM

Re: THREAD MOTHAFUCKAS MINTY 2 BITCHES NEW PACK YEAH
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MinaciousGrace (Post 4536784)
COLOR="RoyalBlue"]Ignite (Fanta) - This file has remained unchanged since you sent it to me initially a long time ago and my comments on it are pretty much exactly the same. I still think this is easily your best file and the song choice is great for the buildup. I also still think there are occasional gross errors in pattern judgment that detract greatly from the file. It'll actually be much easier for me to make the fixes and then send them to you rather than the reverse so that's what I propose, if you want to make fixes on your own I can give you a detailed list of the problematic areas and you can submit fixes. You get a blue stamp conditional upon fixes irrespective of where they come from (assuming they you know, are fixes and don't make things worse somehow).

I forgot the section you wanted me to look at, would appreciate the time stamp for it.

Would like the list of problematic areas to look at as well to see what I can do.

lofty rhino 03-21-2017 09:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Wh1teh (Post 4537191)
Why wouldn't you use the original song? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wBgp5aDH23g

i would love a chart for this tbh

Soul Evans 03-22-2017 02:04 AM

Re: THREAD MOTHAFUCKAS MINTY 2 BITCHES NEW PACK YEAH
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Wh1teh (Post 4537191)
Why wouldn't you use the original song? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wBgp5aDH23g

Fuck this is actually better LOL

thanks for bringing this up, i'll be charting it!

MinaciousGrace 03-22-2017 08:24 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Fantasticone (Post 4537294)
I forgot the section you wanted me to look at, would appreciate the time stamp for it.

Would like the list of problematic areas to look at as well to see what I can do.

153s- right hand 34 gallop that leads into a [34] jumpjack that immediately leads into a 2134 48th roll is an ungodly rush trap.
163s- the left hand chain pattern here is almost the hardest thing in the entire file and it goes to a sound that I can barely hear. Also the sound repeats like 6 times and the only other time you have a chain pattern to it is...
170s- the left hand chain pattern here is the hardest thing in the entire file and we're still in the buildup to the climax. Pattern the chains like the rest of the 32nds, or come up with a consistent way to place jacks to the sound that doesn't involve multicb difficulty spikes even if you can fc the rest of the file.

those are the only major offenders but they're bad enough that they have to be fixed

I can nitpick over any other patterns at a later time

MinaciousGrace 03-22-2017 08:25 AM

Re: THREAD MOTHAFUCKAS MINTY 2 BITCHES NEW PACK YEAH
 
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Originally Posted by Soul Evans (Post 4537563)
Fuck this is actually better LOL

thanks for bringing this up, i'll be charting it!

i have an image in my mind of someone watching a kidz bop commercial and thinking "wow those kids write some pretty catchy original songs"

DourGent 03-22-2017 09:01 AM

Re: THREAD MOTHAFUCKAS MINTY 2 BITCHES NEW PACK YEAH
 
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Originally Posted by MinaciousGrace (Post 4537585)
i have an image in my mind of someone watching a kidz bop commercial and thinking "wow those kids write some pretty catchy original songs"

does that mean you're looking for kidz bop files

MinaciousGrace 03-22-2017 09:07 AM

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if you think you can make a convincing chart with one sure

contrapatior 03-22-2017 10:55 AM

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sent atomhead

Coolboyrulez0 03-22-2017 11:13 AM

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legit wanted a file for this for the longest time

lofty rhino 03-22-2017 12:19 PM

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Chocolate syrup, I got chocolate syrup. :'U


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