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j-rodd123 06-24-2016 01:29 AM

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talking down to people actually motivates them duh

im doing a good thing here

Elmerz 06-24-2016 01:30 AM

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^_^

.Gazelle. 06-24-2016 01:32 AM

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can i drop laugh.jpgs

.Gazelle. 06-24-2016 01:32 AM

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lofty rhino 06-24-2016 01:32 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by j-rodd123 (Post 4444468)
talking down to people actually motivates them duh

im doing a good thing here

well there's those

but we are on ffr and the other side of the coin is crawling into a corner and dying of existential anxiety and questions of self worth

j-rodd123 06-24-2016 01:35 AM

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ok well I hope elmerz doesn't crawl into a corner and die of existential anxiety and questions of self worth

lofty rhino 06-24-2016 01:37 AM

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Originally Posted by .Gazelle. (Post 4444473)

:)__:)

Elmerz 06-24-2016 01:37 AM

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I don't think I'm going to do that.. but you know anything is possible.

.Gazelle. 06-24-2016 01:37 AM

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:^)

One Winged Angel 06-24-2016 01:37 AM

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j-rodd I heard ur coming to the casino with us

j-rodd123 06-24-2016 01:39 AM

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of course I am!

Kanzas 06-24-2016 01:40 AM

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Hype

One Winged Angel 06-24-2016 01:41 AM

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nice man if dynamo and remedy don't wish to partake in completely irrational and absurd betting I hope you'll join me at least

ItsOnlyDanO 06-24-2016 01:41 AM

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I wake up this morning to find that the UK has left the EU and that someone had a meltdown about a placement in a ffr tournament

What a time to be alive!

j-rodd123 06-24-2016 01:42 AM

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Originally Posted by One Winged Angel (Post 4444482)
nice man if dynamo and remedy don't wish to partake in completely irrational and absurd betting I hope you'll join me at least

i wouldn't have it any other way

psychoangel691 06-24-2016 01:47 AM

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Just a heads up, there will be no more preview videos for this tournament. I apologize guys.

badman7772 06-24-2016 01:48 AM

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Originally Posted by psychoangel691 (Post 4444485)
Just a heads up, there will be no more preview videos for this tournament. I apologize guys.

just how i like it actually. the REAL element of surprise every saturday.

psychoangel691 06-24-2016 01:54 AM

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Originally Posted by badman7772 (Post 4444486)
just how i like it actually. the REAL element of surprise every saturday.

Yeah well the preview videos actually draw attention, the first one is up to over 1,200 views right now.

Kanzas 06-24-2016 01:57 AM

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Why no more? I like them, always reminds me there is a tournament lol

MinaciousGrace 06-24-2016 01:59 AM

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every saturday i wake up and spend about an hour and a half manually ripping out all my nose hairs one by one

when im done i look into the mirror and call myself a champion

this is how i selfmotivate

Tarrik 06-24-2016 02:00 AM

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Originally Posted by MinaciousGrace (Post 4444490)
every saturday i wake up and spend about an hour and a half manually ripping out all my nose hairs one by one

when im done i look into the mirror and call myself a champion

this is how i selfmotivate

So this is the secret to SM

dell2150 06-24-2016 02:01 AM

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What a thrilling read. Kayla, the 5-year-old tantrum comment was impeccable. Tarrik, grats & look forward to competing with you, also happy to be here and proud of being able to make it up here, even if we don't stand a chance against the elite :) Gazelle, after YoshL's response to my lag question in his thread, post all of the laugh.jpgs you can. Forever. Also no preview videos is okay with me, I imagine they are a lot of work to do (on top of the already strenuous work that comes with an OT) and I think having 7 new files to play through each week with no expectations is one of the most exciting things that's happened on this site in a while. Very excited to play in the tourney. Good luck everyone!

psychoangel691 06-24-2016 02:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Kanzas (Post 4444488)
Why no more? I like them, always reminds me there is a tournament lol

I'm not going to go into specifics, there's unfortunately circumstances outside my control that will prevent them from being able to be done.

Kanzas 06-24-2016 02:04 AM

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Originally Posted by psychoangel691 (Post 4444493)
I'm not going to go into specifics, there's unfortunately circumstances outside my control that will prevent them from being able to be done.

Ah, ok. I think I saw something about a copyright... What kind of rude person would do that?

psychoangel691 06-24-2016 02:06 AM

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The copyright isn't an issue on youtube, just makes it so that they monetize it for the person claiming the copyright.

Anyway, I've been up since 6am it's 2am my time and I have to be up 6:30am so I'm off. Most of the division stuff is done but there are a few that we're still debating on, plus late entries/people who entered not having enough plays. Those will be finished tomorrow.

TC_Halogen 06-24-2016 02:12 AM

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It has nothing to do with a copyright -- it has to do with the fact that content in the tournament exists on custom engines and people are getting to access it early, when others don't have the means or knowledge on how to do that. Obviously it's less of an issue in higher divisions where most players know how to use the R^3 engine, but it's fucked up that this can even happen in the first place (not to mention anyone not native to that engine gets screwed too).

This could all be mitigated if content was promptly removed on custom engines when asked, but... well, when asked to remove the chart from FFRMania (which afaik is the only source to play the file), the response was simply "not my problem" and "it doesn't provide a real benefit."

While I do agree with the latter point in that practicing will probably do nothing more than harm you, there were rules in the past about content being removed from custom engines when files were in queue/put in game. Simply put, there are only two solutions to this problem - either the content gets removed accordingly, or preview videos stop so that the playfield is as leveled as possible for everyone. Unfortunately, we had to go with the latter.

Tarrik 06-24-2016 02:15 AM

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Originally Posted by TC_Halogen (Post 4444496)
It has nothing to do with a copyright -- it has to do with the fact that content in the tournament exists on custom engines and people are getting to access it early, when others don't have the means or knowledge on how to do that. Obviously it's less of an issue in higher divisions where most players know how to use the R^3 engine, but it's fucked up that this can even happen in the first place (not to mention anyone not native to that engine gets screwed too).

This could all be mitigated if content was promptly removed on custom engines when asked, but... well, when asked to remove the chart from FFRMania (which afaik is the only source to play the file), the response was simply "not my problem" and "it doesn't provide a real benefit."

What file is it again? I can attempt to find it and remove it.

Cold Kitten 06-24-2016 02:15 AM

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Originally Posted by TC_Halogen (Post 4444496)
(which afaik is the only source to play the file)

it was released in the hi19 pack, which means it could be played on SM too. unless i'm sorely mistaken, but. i don't think i am.

Kanzas 06-24-2016 02:17 AM

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Got it. Oh well, stuff happens. Thanks for putting that out there though, always cool to know exactly what goes down behind the scenes here.

psychoangel691 06-24-2016 02:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Cold Kitten (Post 4444498)
it was released in the hi19 pack, which means it could be played on SM too. unless i'm sorely mistaken, but. i don't think i am.

Playing on sm isn't the same as playing on ffr and there's more than this round file.

TC_Halogen 06-24-2016 02:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Cold Kitten (Post 4444498)
it was released in the hi19 pack, which means it could be played on SM too. unless i'm sorely mistaken, but. i don't think i am.

SM != FFR -- different game, different appearance, and for many, different framerates. There's a reason why SM skill and FFR skill are not transferrable.

Tarrik: you don't have to delete the level from the engine. Simply comment out the XML code containing the level information (google this if you're unsure for any reason). That way, when the round is completed, you can uncomment it out and it'll be back on with no issues.

psychoangel691 06-24-2016 02:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Kanzas (Post 4444499)
Got it. Oh well, stuff happens. Thanks for putting that out there though, always cool to know exactly what goes down behind the scenes here.

I'd have loved to say excatly what is going on but unfortunately it would just get me in trouble. I'm doing my best to stay out of trouble and just make this this best tourney i can for you guys before being removed from staff.

Cold Kitten 06-24-2016 02:20 AM

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I know SM isn't the same, but you said only source to play it, which is incorrect. SM is a source. It may not be the same, but still.

Tarrik 06-24-2016 02:21 AM

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Originally Posted by TC_Halogen (Post 4444501)
Tarrik: you don't have to delete the level from the engine. Simply comment out the XML code containing the level information (google this if you're unsure for any reason). That way, when the round is completed, you can uncomment it out and it'll be back on with no issues.

Brilliant. I'm on it.

Kanzas 06-24-2016 02:22 AM

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Originally Posted by psychoangel691 (Post 4444502)
I'd have loved to say excatly what is going on but unfortunately it would just get me in trouble. I'm doing my best to stay out of trouble and just make this this best tourney i can for you guys before being removed from staff.

Oh, don't worry! And aren't you supposed to be sleeeeeeping? You gotta wake up soon!

And, just from the first preview, which was damn epic, this will be a great tournament, by the looks of it. You're doing good, no worries.

Tarrik 06-24-2016 02:24 AM

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Done. It has been removed from FFRMania.

psychoangel691 06-24-2016 02:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Kanzas (Post 4444505)
Oh, don't worry! And aren't you supposed to be sleeeeeeping? You gotta wake up soon!

And, just from the first preview, which was damn epic, this will be a great tournament, by the looks of it. You're doing good, no worries.

Unfortunately I'm a bit upset and sleep doesn't come easy. Yes i care too much about these tournaments.

Kanzas 06-24-2016 02:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Tarrik (Post 4444506)
Done. It has been removed from FFRMania.

Badass

psychoangel691 06-24-2016 02:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Tarrik (Post 4444506)
Done. It has been removed from FFRMania.

There's more in upcoming rounds :/

Tarrik 06-24-2016 02:28 AM

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Originally Posted by psychoangel691 (Post 4444510)
There's more in upcoming rounds :/

PM me them and i'll get onto those too.

psychoangel691 06-24-2016 02:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Tarrik (Post 4444511)
PM me them and i'll get onto those too.

I have to find out all of them. I'm on mobile now upstairs so will reach out tomorrow.

-paexaea- 06-24-2016 02:48 AM

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Sorry you had to deal with that shit. I havent even checked my placing and idgaf what it is. I'll do my best regardless of division. You're doing good work.

psychoangel691 06-24-2016 02:52 AM

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Originally Posted by -paexaea- (Post 4444515)
Sorry you had to deal with that shit. I havent even checked my placing and idgaf what it is. I'll do my best regardless of division. You're doing good work.

Thank you.

I do have to say so far weve had a lot more positive than negative comments from people. You guys have no idea how much that means to us. I really hope you all enjoy the tournament and I can't wait for it to start <3

igotrhythm 06-24-2016 02:59 AM

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Originally Posted by RagedBerserker (Post 4444354)
Oh eff I got moved to D7.

enjoy unconnected breh

devonin 06-24-2016 03:43 AM

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The fact that any tournament files were left in a place where any user could access them ahead of time is a pretty serious mess up for whoever is responsible.

And the fact that one person said -no- to removing them before Tarrik stepped up? If I were admins, I'd consider making sure whoever gave that no isn't involved in the tournament anymore.

You guys run this as a cash event now, you kinda can't afford to not take it seriously. This should be "replace every song that was available for play before the event with new songs" territory.

igotrhythm 06-24-2016 04:15 AM

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Originally Posted by devonin (Post 4444527)
The fact that any tournament files were left in a place where any user could access them ahead of time is a pretty serious mess up for whoever is responsible.

And the fact that one person said -no- to removing them before Tarrik stepped up? If I were admins, I'd consider making sure whoever gave that no isn't involved in the tournament anymore.

You guys run this as a cash event now, you kinda can't afford to not take it seriously. This should be "replace every song that was available for play before the event with new songs" territory.

Sounds like what happened was a recently released Stepmania file was promptly converted and put onto FFRMania without the knowledge that it would be used as a tournament file. The refusal to take it out once this little tidbit became evident, though...that's a paddlin'.

devonin 06-24-2016 04:18 AM

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Sounded like it was more than one file from what I read here. Regardless, I'd be more concerned about the 'no' than the leaked file(s).

MinaciousGrace 06-24-2016 04:22 AM

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it's not going to influence the outcome of the tournament on any level so actually it's really not a big deal

i mean in the time it took you to write that post some kid lost a limb to a landmine somewhere and nobody even gives a shit about that

actually i agree with you that insubordination is a big deal

Soundwave- 06-24-2016 07:02 AM

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Originally Posted by MinaciousGrace (Post 4444545)
it's not going to influence the outcome of the tournament on any level so actually it's really not a big deal

i mean in the time it took you to write that post some kid lost a limb to a landmine somewhere and nobody even gives a shit about that

actually i agree with you that insubordination is a big deal

This post.

What is it.

It gives me mixed feelings.

Why do I even care about this post?

Devilchilly 06-24-2016 07:07 AM

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Oh wow, I got D6 at the start, now I'm on D7 at the signup deadline. Time to die k thx bye plz giv memeconnected.
Also, who had the idea of putting me on D7? Just wanna know, not angry with it or anything.

TC_Halogen 06-24-2016 08:23 AM

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Originally Posted by devonin (Post 4444527)
The fact that any tournament files were left in a place where any user could access them ahead of time is a pretty serious mess up for whoever is responsible.

And the fact that one person said -no- to removing them before Tarrik stepped up? If I were admins, I'd consider making sure whoever gave that no isn't involved in the tournament anymore.

You guys run this as a cash event now, you kinda can't afford to not take it seriously. This should be "replace every song that was available for play before the event with new songs" territory.

The inherent issue here simply revolves around the fact that files have been left in judgment or simply left in a situation to wait for release and these players have intent with releasing other content including in large packs - this is frequently a case for hi19hi19, because he is a goddamn charting machine. That's absolutely no fault to hi19 - he shouldn't have to hold up a large pack of charts because of waiting for something to go public, nor should he feel like he can't release something in a pack, especially given that his (recent) packs are themed as well.

In any case, the person involved isn't directly involved with the tournament - they're just one of the few managers of a custom engine that had the chart uploaded prior to it being used for tournament use: Le Carnaval was released in a StepMania pack in December of 2015, but it was sent to FFR sometime in November (it was in the third set of files judged for the tournaments). FFRMania dedicates their custom engine to have FFR conversions for StepMania packs, and that file got converted likely as soon as the pack was released.

The fault is less in it being public the entire time, as no one would have known that the song was being used in the specific spot that it was in -- it's moreso the fault that when action was attempted to be taken in an effort to alleviate the issue, it was initially denied.

I'm not sure what this means for preview videos; I'll consult Kayla about it again later.

EDIT: also would like to mirror that general reception towards the tournament has been substantially better than I'd expected, so yeah - thanks for that, guys. it's good to see that when i've got negative thoughts about wanting to do things, they turn to positive ones when actually working.

Contrapasso 06-24-2016 08:39 AM

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devonin

Kraezymann 06-24-2016 09:23 AM

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@ halogen & psycho: is there anything I can do to help?

Soundwave- 06-24-2016 10:10 AM

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tfw going to sleep only to wake up to go time boiz.

rushyrulz 06-24-2016 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Devilchilly (Post 4444591)
Oh wow, I got D6 at the start, now I'm on D7 at the signup deadline. Time to die k thx bye plz giv memeconnected.
Also, who had the idea of putting me on D7? Just wanna know, not angry with it or anything.

We reached a unanimous decision. Your scores on thinking of you and SMW on Shrooms were just good enough to push you over the edge.

MikeShinoda12345 06-24-2016 10:26 AM

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Probably a stupid question, but what does SMW mean again?

rushyrulz 06-24-2016 10:27 AM

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super mario world

TC_Halogen 06-24-2016 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by MikeShinoda12345 (Post 4444624)
Probably a stupid question, but what does SMW mean again?

Playing Super Mario World While Taking Mushrooms, which is a hyper-fucking-technical 91.

MinaciousGrace 06-24-2016 10:32 AM

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suck my weaboo, bitches

Poison- 06-24-2016 10:42 AM

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I know placements aren't finalized yet, and I apologize for bringing it up in this thread, but it kind of confuses me how devilchilly is D7 but I'm not haha

Cold Kitten 06-24-2016 11:21 AM

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edit: reading is a skill

YoshL 06-24-2016 11:22 AM

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Quote:

If you happen to have any issues with placements, do not post them in any threads. Instead, send a private message to me via FFR, or send me a message on Skype at saphira251. I will do my best to respond to everyone in regards to everything. Continual disregard of this rule will result in removal from the tournament.
..

Cold Kitten 06-24-2016 11:25 AM

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oops. fix'd

psychoangel691 06-24-2016 12:19 PM

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Alright so the late entries are placed and anyone who didn't have enough plays but do now. All we have left were the 3 people we were still debating on. So basically you can pretty much count on what's up there now. Please direct placement issues in PM and we'll look into anything that seems off.

psychoangel691 06-24-2016 12:47 PM

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I should probably note also before I get a lot of PMs that the lines did shift a little and a lot of people who were borderline and would normally be pushed up were left lower.

Shadowcliff 06-24-2016 12:52 PM

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Wtf. My not-FFR-playing friend texted me a couple of days ago with a link to Follow You Rhythmics Remix, saying "dude this would be an epic song on that rhythm game you play." I agreed with him, and even started making a stepchart for it, which I then lost halfway through the song due to my computer randomly shutting down. It wasn't until just now that I realized this is my round 1 song.

psychoangel691 06-24-2016 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Shadowcliff (Post 4444665)
Wtf. My not-FFR-playing friend texted me a couple of days ago with a link to Follow You Rhythmics Remix, saying "dude this would be an epic song on that rhythm game you play." I agreed with him, and even started making a stepchart for it, which I then lost halfway through the song due to my computer randomly shutting down. It wasn't until just now that I realized this is my round 1 song.

I love the song so much, one of my faves for the tournament. I really enjoyed the file for it as well. Hope you will too :)

rushyrulz 06-24-2016 01:22 PM

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I can only hope and pray that with so much monstercat attention in round 1 that that dank pegboard nerds file I submitted will get in eventually xD

Gamemaster789 06-24-2016 01:58 PM

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It seems ive moved up to D3 which was a suprise lets hope that improves next year :)

Kanzas 06-24-2016 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Gamemaster789 (Post 4444679)
It seems ive moved up to D3 which was a suprise lets hope that improves next year :)

Oh, you will. Most people in the lower divisions move up quickly during or after the tournaments. Good luck!

Gamemaster789 06-24-2016 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Kanzas (Post 4444682)
Oh, you will. Most people in the lower divisions move up quickly during or after the tournaments. Good luck!

ive been playing this on and off for 4-5 years now and when i got back to this recently i just found that the older version of me is just better at this game

cedolad 06-24-2016 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by psychoangel691 (Post 4444653)
Alright so the late entries are placed and anyone who didn't have enough plays but do now. All we have left were the 3 people we were still debating on. So basically you can pretty much count on what's up there now. Please direct placement issues in PM and we'll look into anything that seems off.

Thank you Kayla for all the amazing work you've done. You have tremendous patience.

Deidara837 06-24-2016 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Kanzas (Post 4444682)
Oh, you will. Most people in the lower divisions move up quickly during or after the tournaments. Good luck!

e.g. me in late 2013

D1 -> Autobump after R1 misplacing -> D2 -> 13th Place -> D5 by May

It does happen, gotta dig down, keep playing, aim to improve and good things will come about

Gamemaster789 06-24-2016 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Deidara837 (Post 4444688)
e.g. me in late 2013

D1 -> Autobump after R1 misplacing -> D2 -> 13th Place -> D5 by May

It does happen, gotta dig down, keep playing, aim to improve and good things will come about

yeah this i agree with. i do hope to make vet status by next years tournament. Im just over half way there at this point

Cold Kitten 06-24-2016 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Gamemaster789 (Post 4444694)
yeah this i agree with. i do hope to make vet status by next years tournament. Im just over half way there at this point

you can do it!!!

psychoangel691 06-24-2016 03:32 PM

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Man I just want to say that I am super happy to see how many people have actually been busting their butt to improve and then coming to me hoping for a division bump up.

You guys have been super awesome so far <3

Xiz 06-24-2016 03:40 PM

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wtf kayla im in d3 but im d1 player bump me down n00b im telling my momo on u #freexiz #respect #love #noragrets #simpleplan #ffr #flash #flash #revolution #flashflashrevolution #fleshfleshreconstruction #xiz #psychoangel691 #tournament #11 #official #zelda #round1 #hype #statefarm

psychoangel691 06-24-2016 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Xiz (Post 4444711)
wtf kayla im in d3 but im d1 player bump me down n00b im telling my momo on u #freexiz #respect #love #noragrets #simpleplan #ffr #flash #flash #revolution #flashflashrevolution #fleshfleshreconstruction #xiz #psychoangel691 #tournament #11 #official #zelda #round1 #hype #statefarm

That being in there cracked me up

rushyrulz 06-24-2016 03:55 PM

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what are you wearing, "jake from state farm"?

Cold Kitten 06-24-2016 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Xiz (Post 4444711)
#statefarm

like a good neighbor, statefarm is... sandbagging?


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