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Noun: A physical substance in general, as distinct from mind and spirit; (in physics) that which occupies space and possesses rest mass, especially as distinct from energy. Verb: Be of importance; have significance. Some thing that occupies physical space i.e. "matter" has significant value in that it isn't "nothing". Are you implying that because they are not "interchangeable" definitions I can't use both of them in the same sentence to describe each other? edit: I'll just let you use common sense to digest weather or not I used both meanings in the same context. |
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Does survival matter to a virus?
Does wind erosion matter to a rock? |
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What are the other components he's asking then MrPop?
Anyway, picture the universe without any conscious being there to observe it. What would have value? What does that tell you about inherent value? |
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I think the fact that we exist enabling us to ask and discuss such a question matters in and of itself. To neglect ourselves as a component only opens the hypothetical paradigm were ironically we are trying to prove what some thing is isn't on both sides of the spectrum.
Yes, innately, an answer would imply personification of a beginning with no beginning vice versa a beginning that is by its very definition. How could some thing not have a beginning? It seems their are two distinctly parallel perspectives who will never reach agreement making questions as these unanswerable much like the nature of our composition were it takes two terminals of positive and negative charge to arch existence giving energy. |
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Looks like my human view post is pointless, let's try again with a slightly more objective view.
"Nothing matters with only one known exception." If a human being or any form of life with reasoning capabilities decide to assign matter a value and care about it, anything can matter (for them). What matters is going to become directly interconnected to the being that care about it. It can be expanded to others through communication and become something that matters on a bigger scale. Matter is a property which is assigned a value by something else, it cannot undeniably matter by itself. It's like trying to talk to someone except that there's no one to begin with.. you need at least two person to talk, or even one that could talk to itself, but talking become impossible if there's no one. Something can matter if you're alone, something can matter even more with multiple people, but nothing can matter if there's nothing to make it matter. You guys will have fun for a long time if you try to find a yes/no answer to this. |
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Oh okay then, nothing matters.
Nothing can matter because nothing can objectively make things matter. Enjoy. ..and yes, mattering is entirely subjective according to me. |
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this won't make sense to you either: Semantics never do change meaning in actuality because even words matter... |
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You're right, that didn't make sense either.
Semantics is meaning as it exists in language. So what you basically just said is "Meanings never change meaning", which is nonsensical. As far as parallel perspectives and different wavelengths, that's just word salad. If you're trying to make a metaphor for something you'll need to rephrase or just be more straightforward. |
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Semantics is a branch of linguistics and logic concerned with meaning to be more specific, thus it might be "logical" that in the context that I used semantics was to refer to some one using words only in a means to manipulate the sum of the parts in their sentence structure so they "can't" be wrong. |
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That sentence I just wrote is total bullshit and means nothing even though it tries to sound technical or smart. That's word salad. On another note, this is a discussion very rapidly devolving into semantics and [while some people are making valid points] nobody is really talking about the same thing. The guy who made the thread probably didn't really care about having an answer and just wanted to post philosophical bullshit in this board. We answered his question in what is possibly the best way possible and the discussion went off in a tangent. You guys really should define "matter" very carefully because you're already conflating a fuckton of topics together, including human perception and subjectivity, linguistics, epistomology, etc. |
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I suppose we needn't more than 3 characters to achieve a resounding yes or no huh |
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