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Arch0wl 07-2-2013 12:10 AM

Arch0wl's dexterity gym
 
figured I'd make a thread for this to keep me motivated.

some of my goals are, in order of difficulty:

* passing St. Scarhand one handed (B 8 9 0 setup, see this vid)

* getting a good score on Mei another kb7 (80% or above)

* passing Air solo

* getting a score like A or AA on Air solo

* AA'ing Quasar 1.5x rate one handed

* passing Quasar 1.5x double handed

* AA'ing Quasar 1.5x rate double handed (that is, pasting the regular quasar to another set of 4 arrows on 8 keys so you're playing regular quasar one-handed on the right hand and one-handed on the left hand; it's a huge dump of chordstream and 2x the NPS)

(I think if I achieve the last one, there really isn't anything left to do in music games. I'm done.)

all of these require a ton of dexterity and regular play so I thought I'd use this thread for progress

Ohaider 07-2-2013 12:11 AM

Re: Arch0wl's dexterity gym
 
I've always considered playing with that 1 handed setup, looks pretty cool

Arch0wl 07-2-2013 12:12 AM

Re: Arch0wl's dexterity gym
 
this is 0.7x, B890 setup.

obviously a far cry from 1.0x, but it's progress.


Choofers 07-2-2013 12:21 AM

Re: Arch0wl's dexterity gym
 
if you beat my score on air solo I will buy you a game on steam (up to $50)

this is not a jok (my score is 13 cbs)

alternatively beat my kyuin score

Arch0wl 07-2-2013 12:26 AM

Re: Arch0wl's dexterity gym
 
I can't even beat air solo yet so 13 cbs is a long way away

right now my 16th speed on my right hand is ~190-210bpm messy and ~150-160bpm clean. I need to get that to about 200 clean (since left hand will always lag by ~20bpm) to even attempt an A or AA on air and that's gonna take a lot of practice.

Choofers 07-2-2013 12:28 AM

Re: Arch0wl's dexterity gym
 
oh lol

well if you do end up beating that score by the end of da year, my offer still stands
have you tried playing semi-pettanko while holding your index fingers down?

Arch0wl 07-2-2013 12:29 AM

Re: Arch0wl's dexterity gym
 
I have not heard of "playing pettanko", do you have a description of this on hand?

qqwref 07-2-2013 12:44 AM

Re: Arch0wl's dexterity gym
 
Semi-pettanko = spread with middle/ring fingers on each hand
Pettanko = spread with ring/pinky fingers on each hand

Jonlovesddr 07-2-2013 12:49 AM

Re: Arch0wl's dexterity gym
 
i always thought about trying to practice pettanko since my ring and pinky fingers are like useless

mi40 07-2-2013 12:52 AM

Re: Arch0wl's dexterity gym
 
oh shit i always thought pettanko was middle finger + ring finger

geek 07-2-2013 12:54 AM

Re: Arch0wl's dexterity gym
 
how am I supposed to do any of this with 2 fingers.

Sakish 07-2-2013 02:01 AM

Re: Arch0wl's dexterity gym
 
what do you mean nothing left, pass mswgo with both hands while eating a sandwhich

korny 07-2-2013 02:49 AM

Re: Arch0wl's dexterity gym
 
I could probably pass quasar double handed with a solid months practice

Arch0wl 07-2-2013 03:08 AM

Re: Arch0wl's dexterity gym
 
assuming you meant quasar 1.5x double handed, that would be incredible.

quasar double handed wouldn't be *that* hard.

quasar 1.5 double handed though... that's approaching freedom dive tier.

korny 07-2-2013 03:16 AM

Re: Arch0wl's dexterity gym
 
I very well may be underestimating how difficult it may be to simultaneously use my hands even if the arrows are the same for both. In my prime I could use my less dexterous hand (left) fairly well. My stamina is practically non-existent at this point in stepmania terms I give out so easily now it's pretty sad and hard to believe I ever had as much stamina as I did. It might take me longer and I would have to be very dedicated. I'm pretty sure I aaa'd quasar one handed 1.5x back in the day.


Nvm, 28 greats.

dragon890x 07-2-2013 07:37 AM

Re: Arch0wl's dexterity gym
 
Have you ever considered using the X890 setup?

LongGone 07-2-2013 07:52 AM

Re: Arch0wl's dexterity gym
 
Double handed from what I tried is..harder than it sounds rofl

It'd be useful if you are using e.g. B890 to rip off the VGHN (adjacent) keys so you don't slip your tongue while playing

squeesfan 07-2-2013 10:38 AM

Re: Arch0wl's dexterity gym
 
Do you still index at all, or have you moved onto strictly one handed/double handed play? St Scarhand index is a bit of bugger but rewarding to pass. MSWGO is a classic rage filler as well. I'm trying to work on getting my index pass endurance back, but unfortunately the kb I now have to use is nowhere near as good as my old one for that :(

Arch0wl 07-2-2013 11:41 AM

Re: Arch0wl's dexterity gym
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by squeesfan (Post 3931304)
Do you still index at all, or have you moved onto strictly one handed/double handed play? St Scarhand index is a bit of bugger but rewarding to pass. MSWGO is a classic rage filler as well. I'm trying to work on getting my index pass endurance back, but unfortunately the kb I now have to use is nowhere near as good as my old one for that :(

Right now I almost exclusively play solo/one-hand/kb7. I don't play index much because (a) it's not fun on my current keyboard and (b) there isn't a lot of improvement room. I also don't play spread much, mostly because the gains don't translate well to solo, 1h or kb7.

I would play index-ish stuff more if my hypothetical clamshell pop'n setup were realized though. But that would cost like $500 to make, rofl.

Anyway, my ultimate goal for music games is to be able to play 10-key at an extremely competent level, and you can only do that by training up to it. I need to build a controller for this first, though.

LongGone 07-2-2013 12:12 PM

Re: Arch0wl's dexterity gym
 
Technically there is one arcade game which is 10k..

5keys each hand, scratch, middle footpedal
There is also another mode (Space Mix) which utilises the four red buttons in the middle


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