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UserNameGoesHere 02-14-2013 09:06 PM

Re: Atheism/Theism thread
 
I would say most people are whatever religion they are because it's what they were brought up as and it's the religion their parent(s) is/are.

They may like to think they would have eventually converted to whatever current religion they are were they born in a different place and time, but it's more likely they would have had whatever religion was dominant in that place and time.

Also I think there are two very different questions in "Is this particular religion correct?" vs. "Is any religion correct?". To answer the first question, one may read the religious texts of a particular religion, speak with authority figures in the religion (priests/etc...) and study the religious beliefs, evaluate them, and see how they hold up under critical analysis. I don't think the second question can be answered as there can theoretically be an unlimited number of religions and new ones could appear at any time. There just don't exist the resources to tackle it.

Ohaider 02-14-2013 09:07 PM

Re: Atheism/Theism thread
 
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Originally Posted by 0 (Post 3861715)
pic

das cute

let's make yahweh seem as insignificant as all the other gods we don't believe in when in reality all we do is whine about yahweh on the internet

brought to you by stereotypical athiest

Reincarnate 02-14-2013 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Ohaider (Post 3861735)
das cute

let's make yahweh seem as insignificant as all the other gods we don't believe in when in reality all we do is whine about yahweh on the internet

brought to you by stereotypical athiest

They're all equally insignificant because they are all completely without evidence.

What makes one better than another?

Ohaider 02-14-2013 09:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Reincarnate (Post 3861737)
They're all equally insignificant because they are all completely without evidence

Not saying this isn't true^^

but most athiests don't even know of any of those other gods other than yahweh rofl

Choofers 02-14-2013 09:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Ohaider (Post 3861738)
but most athiests don't even know of any of those other gods other than yahweh rofl

this is probably not even remotely true, especially with the advent of the internet

Reincarnate 02-14-2013 09:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Ohaider (Post 3861738)
Not saying this isn't true^^

but most athiests don't even know of any of those other gods other than yahweh rofl

That isn't remotely true at all

Ohaider 02-14-2013 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Choofers (Post 3861739)
probably

i'm sure you can go off and inevitably find something on google regarding this considering the effort put forth, but having had not searched for this, i've never seen an instance in which an athiest on the internet has acknowledged any other god except yahweh and maybe allah haha

other than that cute pic ofc

edit: that's just me personally though haha

Reincarnate 02-14-2013 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Ohaider (Post 3861746)
i'm sure you can go off and inevitably find something on google regarding this considering the effort put forth, but having had not searched for this, i've never seen an instance in which an athiest on the internet has acknowledged any other god except yahweh and maybe allah haha

Most internet debates are between atheists and Christians, so Yahweh is going to eat up a fair chunk of the discussion.

"I know you're a Christian, but let us talk about Allah/Ra/Thor/Wotan instead!"

Nullifidian 02-14-2013 09:17 PM

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If people don't even know of at least the Greek or Egyptian gods then idk what they're teaching in schools over there.

Ohaider 02-14-2013 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Reincarnate (Post 3861751)
Most internet debates are between atheists and Christians, so Yahweh is going to eat up a fair chunk of the discussion.

"I know you're a Christian, but let us talk about Allah/Ra/Thor/Wotan instead!"

If you're regarding retaliations, correct haha

JJTrixX 02-14-2013 09:23 PM

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to answer all of that is simple, It all comes down to the matter of faith. I guess a more refined question to this discussion would be: to have faith vs. not to have faith?

You claim that atheism is not a religion, i could argue both ways that it is and it isn't, but for now let us say atheism is not a religion because it is the lack of belief in a higher being. I also understand there are different types of atheists. Is it you don't believe in a higher being or you don't beleive in anything that can not be proven? Or is your position of atheism a complete absence of faith?

Choofers 02-14-2013 09:23 PM

Re: Atheism/Theism thread
 
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Originally Posted by Ohaider (Post 3861746)
i'm sure you can go off and inevitably find something on google regarding this considering the effort put forth, but having had not searched for this, i've never seen an instance in which an athiest on the internet has acknowledged any other god except yahweh and maybe allah haha

other than that cute pic ofc

edit: that's just me personally though haha

about 33% of the world's population is christian, about 23% is islam

it makes sense that the majority of atheist vs theist content on the internet is against yahweh or allah

Nullifidian 02-14-2013 09:27 PM

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Originally Posted by JJTrixX (Post 3861758)
to answer all of that is simple, It all comes down to the matter of faith. I guess a more refined question to this discussion would be: to have faith vs. not to have faith?

You claim that atheism is not a religion, i could argue both ways that it is and it isn't, but for now let us say atheism is not a religion because it is the lack of belief in a higher being. I also understand there are different types of atheists. Is it you don't believe in a higher being or you don't beleive in anything that can not be proven? Or is your position of atheism a complete absence of faith?

My position is a complete absence of blind faith. I don't take something for granted just because someone says so. I have faith that another day will come tomorrow because it's a consistent and observable phenomenon. I don't have faith in something I can only know is true when we die, given the premise that there is something after death (which also cannot be proven or disproven).

Ohaider 02-14-2013 09:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Choofers (Post 3861759)
about 33% of the world's population is christian, about 23% is islam

it makes sense that the majority of atheist vs theist content on the internet is against yahweh or allah

cool ty for supporting my point

make yahweh seem as insignificant as any other god in a pic when in reality he's by far the most highly noted, disparaged god haha

Reincarnate 02-14-2013 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by JJTrixX (Post 3861758)
Is it you don't believe in a higher being or you don't beleive in anything that can not be proven? Or is your position of atheism a complete absence of faith?

Atheism = lack of belief/faith in higher powers/the supernatural. It is not a religion. It's a lack of religion.

Reincarnate 02-14-2013 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Ohaider (Post 3861766)
cool ty for supporting my point

make yahweh seem as insignificant as any other god in a pic when in reality he's by far the most highly noted, disparaged god haha

So you think that what's true comes down to what's the most popular/noted?

Choofers 02-14-2013 09:31 PM

Re: Atheism/Theism thread
 
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Originally Posted by Ohaider (Post 3861766)
cool ty for supporting my point

make yahweh seem as insignificant as any other god in a pic when in reality he's by far the most highly noted, disparaged god haha

Why would a christian or muslim bring up gods from polytheistic religions if their religion is monotheistic?

JJTrixX 02-14-2013 09:32 PM

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I've come to know that the biggest difference of atheists vs. theists is that atheists are always searching for a truth they will never remotely grasp as suppose to a theist who has already accepted a truth based on faith.

I ask you, as an atheist, of all the information and science known throughout the entire universe, about what amount in terms of percentage would you say you understand?

Furthermore, do you find it wise or logical to spend your entire lifespan trying to understand everything about the universe rather then using that time more considerably like caring for the ones you love and spending time with them?

dragonmegaXX 02-14-2013 09:37 PM

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I worship Tiamat, queen of chaos and dragons

Nullifidian 02-14-2013 09:38 PM

Re: Atheism/Theism thread
 
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Originally Posted by JJTrixX (Post 3861775)
I've come to know that the biggest difference of atheists vs. theists is that atheists are always searching for a truth they will never remotely grasp as suppose to a theist who has already accepted a truth based on faith.

I ask you, as an atheist, of all the information and science known throughout the entire universe, about what amount in terms of percentage would you say you understand?

Furthermore, do you find it wise or logical to spend your entire lifespan trying to understand everything about the universe rather then using that time more considerably like caring for the ones you love and spending time with them?

What you're stating as truth is a truth based on falsehood. There's nothing that proves that that is the actual truth.

Anyway, understanding can improve your life in ways you wouldn't know of if you didn't understand. That said, there's a whole lot of things I don't know (yet), but that's fine by me. I understand that I won't be able to understand everything there is to understand, so I focus on things that matter for me and my well-being. For example, I'm studying to become a concept artist and for that I have to have understanding of various things in physics (such as how light works in different situations and why). If you understand it, you're better capable of using it to your advantage. I also find it just fun to learn new things (and using it to my advantage in every day life).


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