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Any rational reading of the Bible makes it pretty abundantly clear that if you take it as any more than mere allegory, you believe in some really weird shit
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I'd like to point out a few things that I noticed in the previous thread that bothered me.
A theory is just theory: A theory is a well-substantiated explanation accounting for a body of well-substantiated facts. (Someone in previous thread said "just a theory". As Asimov said once: "Creationists make it sound as though a 'theory' is something you dreamt up after being drunk all night". That's in no way the case.) Atheism is a belief/religion: Atheism is as much a belief/religion as non-existence is existence. The non-existence of a deity is implicit and inherent, the existence of one is yet to be proven. Believing in the presence is just that; belief. There's no belief required to not believe (herp derp). |
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Love and be loved. The Bible truly is a work of art and there is a reason why it is the greatest story ever written regardless if its content is accurate or fabricated. The Bible's purpose isn't to justify its validity as most naive people suggest, but rather to express the meaning of what 'love' really is and God's overwhelming abundance of it. "For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved." John 3:17 "We love, because He first loved us." John 4:19 A perfect example to understand this concept would be to imagine if you had a son or a daughter. Wouldn't you love your child? Wouldn't you do anything to protect your own flesh and blood and try to do what's best for them? That natural love that you feel for your children comes from the love that God has for us, for we are all children of God. Everything is connected. Do not deviate from one another, instead try to understand that we are all pieces of a whole. We must work together as a team if we are to ever experience true bliss. Isn't that what we all seek in life? |
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The internet is the only place I run into religion. I tend to avoid all things religion. I believe that it is a huge waste of time.
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And even so, there's nothing in your statement that proves that you're right about the existence of a god (or your reasoning for that matter). It's circular logic. edit: There's just so many things floaty about your statements I don't even know where to begin to counter it. |
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The Bible tells us to place our faith in God and not in ourselves. Man’s way is a road to death and God’s way is a road to eternal life. This is good enough for me because my faith creates a 'peace of mind' . This peace of mind leads to my happiness :) Do you agree that when ones mind is not at peace, one can not be as happy as one whos mind is at peace? |
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Top Ten Signs You're a Fundamentalist Christian
10 - You vigorously deny the existence of thousands of gods claimed by other religions, but feel outraged when someone denies the existence of yours. 9 - You feel insulted and "dehumanized" when scientists say that people evolved from other life forms, but you have no problem with the Biblical claim that we were created from dirt. 8 - You laugh at polytheists, but you have no problem believing in a Triune God. 7 - Your face turns purple when you hear of the "atrocities" attributed to Allah, but you don't even flinch when hearing about how God/Jehovah slaughtered all the babies of Egypt in "Exodus" and ordered the elimination of entire ethnic groups in "Joshua" including women, children, and trees! 6 - You laugh at Hindu beliefs that deify humans, and Greek claims about gods sleeping with women, but you have no problem believing that the Holy Spirit impregnated Mary, who then gave birth to a man-god who got killed, came back to life and then ascended into the sky. 5 - You are willing to spend your life looking for little loopholes in the scientifically established age of Earth (few billion years), but you find nothing wrong with believing dates recorded by Bronze Age tribesmen sitting in their tents and guessing that Earth is a few generations old. 4 - You believe that the entire population of this planet with the exception of those who share your beliefs -- though excluding those in all rival sects - will spend Eternity in an infinite Hell of Suffering. And yet consider your religion the most "tolerant" and "loving." 3 - While modern science, history, geology, biology, and physics have failed to convince you otherwise, some idiot rolling around on the floor speaking in "tongues" may be all the evidence you need to "prove" Christianity. 2 - You define 0.01% as a "high success rate" when it comes to answered prayers. You consider that to be evidence that prayer works. And you think that the remaining 99.99% FAILURE was simply the will of God. 1 - You actually know a lot less than many atheists and agnostics do about the Bible, Christianity, and church history - but still call yourself a Christian. |
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Damnit, this thread was getting juicy too....
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Sanguinary circumstances will always exist because religion will always exist. Religion will always exist because humans are by definition capable of free will. Whether you believe in one God, multiple Gods, or no God, a belief is still a belief and when you get multiple people together who share a similar belief, that is what essentially makes up a religion.
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You say, "The non-existence of a deity is implicit and inherent, the existence of one is yet to be proven."
I say, the non-existence of a deity is also yet to be proven. |
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edit: "God's love" is killing millions of people in the bible due to their using of free-will (which he gave them) and sending countless people to spend eternity in hell, also for using free-will. |
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-Steven Weinberg Also see the video I posted earlier about why faith is a pretty dangerous concept |
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Asking someone to disprove something as a deity is virtually impossible btw
but so is proving a deity |
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But do you have any good reason to believe in them? How do you "prove" something doesn't exist? And once you answer that question -- what good is a belief in something that can't be disproven? Do you realize why this is worthless as a truth claim? |
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