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psychoangel691 05-18-2012 02:24 AM

Legacy FFR MP tourney!
 
Hey guys, I had wanted to do an MP tourney while I was still staff and never got around to it. Well, I'm gonna do it now ^_^ Now I know that a lot of people experience lag issues with MP so this may not be perfect, but it should still be a lot of fun!

Legacy MP Tournament

This tournament is going to be six divisions, and played with raw score. With the multiplayer system supporting two players, this tournament will be played as a double elimination tournament. What does this mean for you?

For those of you that aren't familiar with double elimination style tournaments, it's a very widely used format for gaming tournaments, giving the chance for stronger players that may have had a big mishap to fight their way back to the position that they rightfully deserve. How will it work in this tournament? The best way to explain is to provide an example, and what better way than to use an actual bracket.

In a double elimination tournament, everyone starts in top half of the bracket (or the winner's bracket). A loss in the winner's bracket drops you to the bottom bracket (or the loser's bracket), and a second loss in the tournament gets you eliminated. This is an all-inclusive rule, including the final round (which is a bit confusing, but I'll explain that a bit later). Let's go to the example.

(Please note: this is just a randomized group to illustrate how the bracket will work and is in no way a foreshadowing of divisional placements/tournament results.)

In this example below, we have two matches - Kayla (psychoangel691)/myself (TC_Halogen) and FrozenAngel91/Luis (samurai7694). The winners of the match have an orange number next to them, showing how many points (or matches) they had to win to get there. The winners will progress to the second round of the top bracket...


...and the losers of the round fall down into the bottom bracket. In this example, I took two out of three wins in the match:


...and I move on to the next round in the loser's bracket. Remember: once you lose a match, you fall into the loser's bracket and are competing in the tournament from there. Once you lose in the loser's bracket, you are eliminated.

It is also possible to win the entire tournament in the loser's bracket, given a very specific set of circumstances. Using the example below, Luis traveled to the final round through the bottom bracket, and I traveled to the final round normally, through the top bracket. The person entering the final round in the loser's bracket has to win TWO matches, to win the entire tournament. You may be asking "why?" or "how is this fair?" Remembering the rules of a double elimination tournament makes this very logical.


Being that I was in the winner's bracket, and lost the match, I then fall to the loser's bracket, and the final round recommences to determine the winner of the tournament.

I hope this explains any and all questions about how the tournament structure and how it will work. (If one of your question asks how the score can possibly be 3 to 0: it can't - it was just me putting in values to move the bracket along more quickly.)

Big thanks to AJ for making this example and explaining all this ^_^


Signups/Start Date

I'm going to have signups open for two weeks. I'd do this next weekend but being that it's a holiday I figure people may be away. So the start date will be Saturday June 2nd at 1pm server time. This should only be a one day event, but if for any reason it starts to get too late we'll carry it over into Sunday. Just leave a post in the thread that you want to be in just like any other tourney. This will give me time to match people up nicely.

Rules


1. NO CHEATING. Do not sign up with an alternate account and hope that you will get away with it. If we have a reason to believe that you are not using your main account, we will ask you. Be honest with us.

2. Be respectful to all other competitors in the tournament. Arguments will not be tolerated and are grounds for removal from the tournament.

3. If you are spectating a room do not use the chat while the competitors are playing. This tends to cause more lag and you wouldn't want someone to do it to you, right?


Prizes/Donations

Top 3 in each division will get a credit prize. I may pay more places if we get a significant amount of signups. I may even do a participation credit amount depending on how many people there are and donations. I'll be kicking off the pot with 500k. As always donations are greatly appreciated.


Current Prize Pool

2,200,000

Donations

TC_Halogen - 1,600,000
psychoangel691 - 500,000
yo man im awesome - 60,000
igotrhythm - 30,000
Jake Ferguson - 10,000



Participants
  1. sticklydude
  2. RagedBerserker
  3. justin_ator
  4. ohsosilly
  5. Jake Ferguson
  6. Evascythe
  7. who_cares973
  8. icontrolyourworld/Princess Luna
  9. FrozenAngel91
  10. awein999
  11. Zyphoror
  12. j-rodd123
  13. pikakirby123
  14. MrPreggers
  15. Reshiram
  16. Bloodyy
  17. prefx
  18. DJzAIKz
  19. samurai7694
  20. thesunfan
  21. Winrar
  22. typing like wat
  23. SocoNhydro420
  24. gold stinger
  25. Darkomni
  26. megamon88
  27. Arbliterator
  28. .Gazelle.
  29. yo man im awesome
  30. Soul.
  31. Elite Ninja
  32. Riotpolice
  33. gabrieljd
  34. magicturbo
  35. Zekramcross
  36. Emo_Saur_
  37. emulord
  38. Puzzler64
  39. nois-or-e
  40. TC_mistrisofevl
  41. TehNoobkiller
  42. Hazelle
  43. 3lijah
  44. iEnvy TR0lls
  45. TheSaxRunner05
  46. Kirbyman1990
  47. Kokonoe Rin
  48. V-Ormix
  49. reuben_tate
  50. Blu3Dream
  51. YOSHl
  52. _Zenith_
  53. i will pwn u

Divisions

D6
  1. Samurai7694
  2. icontrolyourworld/Princess Luna
  3. justin_ator
  4. awein999
  5. Zyphoror
  6. yo man im awesome
  7. V-Ormix

D5
  1. RagedBerserker
  2. MrPreggers
  3. Reshiram
  4. SocoNhydro420
  5. megamon88
  6. Arbliterator
  7. Elite Ninja
  8. TC_mistrisofevl
  9. YOSHl
  10. _Zenith_

D4
  1. sticklydude
  2. j-rodd123
  3. Bloodyy
  4. Soul.
  5. Riotpolice
  6. Emo_Saur_
  7. emulord
  8. i will pwn u

D3
  1. who_cares973
  2. FrozenAngel91
  3. prefx
  4. Winrar
  5. gold stinger
  6. Darkomni
  7. .Gazelle.
  8. gabrieljd
  9. magicturbo
  10. Zekramcross
  11. 3lijah
  12. reuben_tate

D2
  1. Jake Ferguson
  2. pikakirby123
  3. thesunfan
  4. ohsosilly
  5. nois-or-e
  6. Hazelle
  7. TheSaxRunner05
  8. Kokonoe Rin

D1
  1. Evascythe
  2. typing like wat
  3. DJzAIKz
  4. Puzzler64
  5. TehNoobkiller
  6. iEnvy TR0lls
  7. Kirbyman1990
  8. Blu3Dream


Volunteers
  1. who_cares973
  2. prefx
  3. SocoNhydro420
  4. TC_Halogen
  5. 00Razor00
  6. Sky Kitten
  7. j-rodd123
  8. Elite Ninja
  9. gold stinger
  10. yo man im awesome
  11. TC_mistrisofevl

Brackets
D6
D5
D4
D3
D2
D1

bmah 05-18-2012 02:27 AM

Re: Legacy FFR MP tourney!
 
Approved.

sticklydude 05-18-2012 02:30 AM

Re: Legacy FFR MP tourney!
 
This sounds pretty cool. Not that good at legacy, but im in.

RagedBerserker 05-18-2012 02:31 AM

Re: Legacy FFR MP tourney!
 
Hmmm... Good ole MP. I'm in. (At least I'm pretty sure I'm not doing anything the 2nd)

justin_ator 05-18-2012 02:32 AM

Re: Legacy FFR MP tourney!
 
in

ohsosilly 05-18-2012 02:32 AM

Re: Legacy FFR MP tourney!
 
Yessss in!

psychoangel691 05-18-2012 02:34 AM

Re: Legacy FFR MP tourney!
 
I'll pretty up the OP more later on haha. I will also send out reminder PMs the Friday before the tourney starts.

Jake Ferguson 05-18-2012 02:41 AM

Re: Legacy FFR MP tourney!
 
Rarely play mp in legacy but why not? I'm in, and 10,000 sent :)

TC_Halogen 05-18-2012 02:42 AM

Re: Legacy FFR MP tourney!
 
in!

psychoangel691 05-18-2012 02:43 AM

Re: Legacy FFR MP tourney!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jake Ferguson (Post 3695037)
Rarely play mp in legacy but why not? I'm in, and 10,000 sent :)

Thanks ^_^

Yea I'm not a legacy player either, but since the two aren't linked right now and legacy seems to be the most played for MP currently. I decided to go with legacy. All in good fun though ^_^

Evascythe 05-18-2012 02:43 AM

Re: Legacy FFR MP tourney!
 
Sure I'll give this a try. :)

psychoangel691 05-18-2012 02:48 AM

Re: Legacy FFR MP tourney!
 
Okay well now that AJ threw a million in I think it's safe to say I can give out a participation prize as well lol.

who_cares973 05-18-2012 02:49 AM

Re: Legacy FFR MP tourney!
 
****ing in hell yeah

icontrolyourworld 05-18-2012 02:51 AM

Re: Legacy FFR MP tourney!
 
I'll join!! (can i use my Princess Luna account, I play mp on it more often)

psychoangel691 05-18-2012 02:53 AM

Re: Legacy FFR MP tourney!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by icontrolyourworld (Post 3695045)
I'll join!! (can i use my Princess Luna account, I play mp on it more often)

Yea since I know that's you it's no problem :)

FrozenAngel91 05-18-2012 02:53 AM

Re: Legacy FFR MP tourney!
 
Definitely in for this one.

icontrolyourworld 05-18-2012 02:53 AM

Re: Legacy FFR MP tourney!
 
sweet thank you! can't wait for this to start haha

CoolRun 05-18-2012 02:59 AM

Re: Legacy FFR MP tourney!
 
In. Should be fun. :]

awein999 05-18-2012 03:01 AM

Re: Legacy FFR MP tourney!
 
innnnnnnnnnn!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! and i enjoy the short and sweet first post :)

Zyphoror 05-18-2012 03:06 AM

Re: Legacy FFR MP tourney!
 
in, hope I don't eliminated too earlyyyy xD

btw
AJ gonna rape top division rip 2nd place

j-rodd123 05-18-2012 03:27 AM

Re: Legacy FFR MP tourney!
 
omg yesssss, in!

And picking legacy for MP was def the right choice, velo MP has the most retarded lag spikes lol

pikakirby123 05-18-2012 08:33 AM

Re: Legacy FFR MP tourney!
 
in

mrpreggers 05-18-2012 08:34 AM

Re: Legacy FFR MP tourney!
 
Great ****ing idea.. I'm in.

Reshiram 05-18-2012 10:02 AM

Re: Legacy FFR MP tourney!
 
MP Tourney?

Finally, a chance to play live. I'm in for sure.

Bloodyy 05-18-2012 10:03 AM

Re: Legacy FFR MP tourney!
 
in :)

prefx 05-18-2012 10:06 AM

Re: Legacy FFR MP tourney!
 
FUCCEN IN

You guys listened to me ^^

Things to add to OP:

Optimization of Legacy MP

If on windows 7 or vista turn off windows aero by using windows basic theme (Add instructions if you'd like)
Use Flash Standalone 8 or 9.
Suggested to use low quality in game for maximum performance.
Gamebooster can also be an extra boost.

Edit Edit: Without all or most of the steps there Legacy is impossible to play well... gamebooster is optional.

psychoangel691 05-18-2012 10:11 AM

Re: Legacy FFR MP tourney!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by prefx (Post 3695134)
FUCCEN IN

You guys listened to me ^^

Things to add to OP:

Optimization of Legacy MP

If on windows 7 or vista turn off windows aero by using windows basic theme (Add instructions if you'd like)
Use Flash Standalone 8 or 9.
Suggested to use low quality in game for maximum performance.
Gamebooster can also be an extra boost.

I've always listened to you guys <3

Yea I'll have put up instructions, and I recommend everyone that signs up gets in MP and sees what may help them optimize play. I know how nasty the lag can get in there.

prefx 05-18-2012 10:12 AM

Re: Legacy FFR MP tourney!
 
Those 4 instructions kill lag entirely. ;)

psychoangel691 05-18-2012 10:15 AM

Re: Legacy FFR MP tourney!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by prefx (Post 3695136)
Those 4 instructions kill lag entirely. ;)

Sadly even with all that I still get lag, even just with regular play. My comp is such crap lol.

DJzAIKz 05-18-2012 10:15 AM

Re: Legacy FFR MP tourney!
 
let me in thanks

prefx 05-18-2012 10:16 AM

Re: Legacy FFR MP tourney!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by psychoangel691 (Post 3695138)
Sadly even with all that I still get lag, even just with regular play. My comp is such crap lol.

That's bizzare :S Most computers these days are 100% fine with those settings. I don't even need gamebooster.

popsicle_3000 05-18-2012 11:20 AM

Re: Legacy FFR MP tourney!
 
I have a question before i fully commit, this 1pm saturday start time: this is a live start time correct? meaning i need to be online at that time? reason I ask is that will be 3am my time for me. Can you clarify what a sort of schedule for the day would look like?
i so want to be a part of this though!

samurai7694 05-18-2012 11:29 AM

Re: Legacy FFR MP tourney!
 
definitely in

psychoangel691 05-18-2012 11:54 AM

Re: Legacy FFR MP tourney!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by popsicle_3000 (Post 3695155)
I have a question before i fully commit, this 1pm saturday start time: this is a live start time correct? meaning i need to be online at that time? reason I ask is that will be 3am my time for me. Can you clarify what a sort of schedule for the day would look like?
i so want to be a part of this though!

Yea that's the hard part unfortunately. No matter what time I put it there's a timezone that's at some crazy hour of the day. How long it would take would come down to how many people in each division we have.

TC_Halogen 05-18-2012 12:16 PM

Re: Legacy FFR MP tourney!
 
holy cocks, I'm going to have to practice on MP a lot more if I have any sort of chance doing well in this tournament in my division, jesus.

Not SDGing certain 10s = bad for D6... -_-;

iironiic 05-18-2012 12:29 PM

Re: Legacy FFR MP tourney!
 
Just a mere suggestion: Instead of having the tournament start at a specific time, how about matching contestants up with others and give them a couple of days to submit a screenshot with their scores.

I would be in but generally, I don't think I'll be playing much FFR in a while.

psychoangel691 05-18-2012 02:33 PM

Re: Legacy FFR MP tourney!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by iironiic (Post 3695166)
Just a mere suggestion: Instead of having the tournament start at a specific time, how about matching contestants up with others and give them a couple of days to submit a screenshot with their scores.

I would be in but generally, I don't think I'll be playing much FFR in a while.

That kinda defeats the purpose of an MP tourney though. I mean it's meant to be a live action kinda thing.

thesunfan 05-18-2012 02:43 PM

Re: Legacy FFR MP tourney!
 
In please. This will be fun.

Winrar 05-18-2012 02:46 PM

Re: Legacy FFR MP tourney!
 
I'm so in. Still gotta keep practicing though D:

typing like wat 05-18-2012 02:49 PM

Re: Legacy FFR MP tourney!
 
in

iironiic 05-18-2012 02:55 PM

Re: Legacy FFR MP tourney!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by psychoangel691 (Post 3695201)
That kinda defeats the purpose of an MP tourney though. I mean it's meant to be a live action kinda thing.

Ah I see. I was just suggesting. It would probably be more exciting watching everyone play live anyways :P

psychoangel691 05-18-2012 02:58 PM

Re: Legacy FFR MP tourney!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by iironiic (Post 3695212)
Ah I see. I was just suggesting. It would probably be more exciting watching everyone play live anyways :P

Yea haha, even if MP doesn't run the best I think this should be a lot of fun.

RadiantVibe 05-18-2012 02:59 PM

Re: Legacy FFR MP tourney!
 
In! I don't know if I'll be around but I'll see what happens.

TK_unreal 05-18-2012 03:02 PM

Re: Legacy FFR MP tourney!
 
In. :D

igotrhythm 05-18-2012 03:09 PM

Re: Legacy FFR MP tourney!
 
igotrhythm psychoangel691 30,000 2012-05-18 14:08:26

Have some fun out there, you party people.

TC_Halogen 05-18-2012 03:14 PM

Re: Legacy FFR MP tourney!
 
Alright guys, Kayla and I have been chatting it up on the structure of the tournament, and we have come up with a consensus on how things are going to work. I'll write up a quick post delving into the details of how this will be played.

psychoangel691 05-18-2012 03:20 PM

Re: Legacy FFR MP tourney!
 
If there's anyone that would like to volunteer to help monitor the rooms for this tourney send me a PM or message me on AIM or Skype. I could def use the help.

SocoNhydro420 05-18-2012 03:22 PM

Re: Legacy FFR MP tourney!
 
Im a regular legacy player, and i love MP! Definatly in.

Ill volunteer to help moniter the rooms too :)

Edit: Wait, would that interfere with me participating? x.x

psychoangel691 05-18-2012 03:27 PM

Re: Legacy FFR MP tourney!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SocoNhydro420 (Post 3695227)
Im a regular legacy player, and i love MP! Definatly in.

Ill volunteer to help moniter the rooms too :)

Edit: Wait, would that interfere with me participating? x.x

Nah what I'll have to do it just have someone stand in when it's your turn to compete. I'll probably try to have all the people who volunteer compete at different times so they can stand in for one another.

gold stinger 05-18-2012 04:04 PM

Re: Legacy FFR MP tourney!
 
in, but only because other ponies are going in. I have culminating activities coming up, (Not to be rude or anything,) so might as well get hyped for the upcoming summer tournament.

TC_Halogen 05-18-2012 04:04 PM

Re: Legacy FFR MP tourney!
 
Legacy MP Tournament
As mentioned in the opening post of the thread, this tournament is going to be six divisions, and played with raw score. With the multiplayer system supporting two players, this tournament will be played as a double elimination tournament. What does this mean for you?

For those of you that aren't familiar with double elimination style tournaments, it's a very widely used format for gaming tournaments, giving the chance for stronger players that may have had a big mishap to fight their way back to the position that they rightfully deserve. How will it work in this tournament? The best way to explain is to provide an example, and what better way than to use an actual bracket.

In a double elimination tournament, everyone starts in top half of the bracket (or the winner's bracket). A loss in the winner's bracket drops you to the bottom bracket (or the loser's bracket), and a second loss in the tournament gets you eliminated. This is an all-inclusive rule, including the final round (which is a bit confusing, but I'll explain that a bit later). Let's go to the example.

(Please note: this is just a randomized group to illustrate how the bracket will work and is in no way a foreshadowing of divisional placements/tournament results.)

In this example below, we have two matches - Kayla (psychoangel691)/myself (TC_Halogen) and FrozenAngel91/Luis (samurai7694). The winners of the match have an orange number next to them, showing how many points (or matches) they had to win to get there. The winners will progress to the second round of the top bracket...


...and the losers of the round fall down into the bottom bracket. In this example, I took two out of three wins in the match:


...and I move on to the next round in the loser's bracket. Remember: once you lose a match, you fall into the loser's bracket and are competing in the tournament from there. Once you lose in the loser's bracket, you are eliminated.

It is also possible to win the entire tournament in the loser's bracket, given a very specific set of circumstances. Using the example below, Luis traveled to the final round through the bottom bracket, and I traveled to the final round normally, through the top bracket. The person entering the final round in the loser's bracket has to win TWO matches, to win the entire tournament. You may be asking "why?" or "how is this fair?" Remembering the rules of a double elimination tournament makes this very logical.


Being that I was in the winner's bracket, and lost the match, I then fall to the loser's bracket, and the final round recommences to determine the winner of the tournament.

I hope this explains any and all questions about how the tournament structure and how it will work. (If one of your question asks how the score can possibly be 3 to 0: it can't - it was just me putting in values to move the bracket along more quickly.)

Darkomni 05-18-2012 04:04 PM

Re: Legacy FFR MP tourney!
 
I'm SO in. This sounds fun as hell.

psychoangel691 05-18-2012 04:15 PM

Re: Legacy FFR MP tourney!
 
Kk Op is updated with AJ's pretty explanation ^_^

megamon88 05-18-2012 05:09 PM

Re: Legacy FFR MP tourney!
 
In, sounds like a lot of fun :P

gold stinger 05-18-2012 05:18 PM

Re: Legacy FFR MP tourney!
 
Will we be able to use the standalone mp legacy engine for this? Just looking at options for less lag, that's all. Never played the standalone mp legacy engine in multiplayer.

psychoangel691 05-18-2012 05:31 PM

Re: Legacy FFR MP tourney!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by gold stinger (Post 3695293)
Will we be able to use the standalone mp legacy engine for this? Just looking at options for less lag, that's all. Never played the standalone mp legacy engine in multiplayer.

Yea I use the standalone for it myself. I can't run mp in browser. Best thing I can say is for everyone to play in mp over the next two weeks and try all the little things you can do to reduce lag so you're ready come the day of the tourney.

Arbliterator 05-18-2012 07:39 PM

Re: Legacy FFR MP tourney!
 
Sounds pretty cool, I'm in.

.Gazelle. 05-18-2012 07:45 PM

Re: Legacy FFR MP tourney!
 
in, im horrible in MP tho :/

yo man im awesome 05-18-2012 08:35 PM

Re: Legacy FFR MP tourney!
 
Sure why not I'll join in on this

who_cares973 05-18-2012 08:56 PM

Re: Legacy FFR MP tourney!
 
i'll join again

Soul. 05-18-2012 09:50 PM

Re: Legacy FFR MP tourney!
 
I'm in for this!

Guest15937 05-18-2012 10:00 PM

Re: Legacy FFR MP tourney!
 
I'm in this one.

psychoangel691 05-19-2012 03:25 PM

Re: Legacy FFR MP tourney!
 
I'm thinking about starting with preliminary placements today, that way if anyone has any concerns they can talk to me about it.

Elite Ninja 05-19-2012 03:48 PM

Re: Legacy FFR MP tourney!
 
Sure, I'm in.

psychoangel691 05-19-2012 04:41 PM

Re: Legacy FFR MP tourney!
 
Alrighty, put up some preliminary placements, these were very quick placements and very much likely to change as I dig more into recent scores and such. Also there will be a lot of people moved around if we don't get any D1 signups.

As always any issues concerns just send me a PM or message me on AIM or Skype ^_^

pikakirby123 05-19-2012 04:42 PM

Re: Legacy FFR MP tourney!
 
D3 so small :(

psychoangel691 05-19-2012 04:58 PM

Re: Legacy FFR MP tourney!
 
For now

Riotpolice 05-19-2012 04:59 PM

Re: Legacy FFR MP tourney!
 
In for usual placement.

gabrieljd 05-19-2012 09:09 PM

Re: Legacy FFR MP tourney!
 
I'm in, want to get back in MP, remember having some good times there.

Magicturbo 05-19-2012 09:22 PM

Re: Legacy FFR MP tourney!
 
May as well give it a try ._.

Zekramcross 05-19-2012 09:24 PM

Re: Legacy FFR MP tourney!
 
I'm in. :)

Wicked_World 05-19-2012 09:28 PM

Re: Legacy FFR MP tourney!
 
in, hi_top's my main

psychoangel691 05-19-2012 09:30 PM

Re: Legacy FFR MP tourney!
 
Yay more people \o/

And hi_top another name change? XD

<3

ps we should get some Pony vs Blaze action goin on up in dis tourney ^_^

popsicle_3000 05-19-2012 10:29 PM

Re: Legacy FFR MP tourney!
 
i'm so up for that!

psychoangel691 05-20-2012 07:34 PM

Re: Legacy FFR MP tourney!
 
Are you going to be able to play considering the time? :/

gold stinger 05-20-2012 07:48 PM

Re: Legacy FFR MP tourney!
 
I'm screwed unless the almighty lag god shines upon me and lags all of my opponents. Either that, or magicturbo is in my division. If that happened, I would give up.

Emo_Saur_ 05-20-2012 07:49 PM

Re: Legacy FFR MP tourney!
 
Before I completely quit, I think I'm going to join this just because I wouldn't mind MP being active again.

Guest15937 05-20-2012 09:21 PM

Re: Legacy FFR MP tourney!
 
Aaagghh just reread the main post, can't do a tournament on June 2 because I won't have any computer access, so I'll have to drop this one.

Zekramcross 05-20-2012 09:44 PM

Re: Legacy FFR MP tourney!
 
I see that I'm not placed yet. Is everything ok?

emulord 05-20-2012 09:46 PM

Re: Legacy FFR MP tourney!
 
Hey can I join? I've never been in a multiplayer tournament, so my MP level is still a measly 10 :P


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